Says he that pulled the hidden 'I knew black people so im ofc more tolerant and liberal' brag first.

More diebitter semantics.

I didn't claim a black friend, you did.

lol, but you played the 'I was raised in a multicultural place so I must be more liberal than the likes of diebitter'.... who happens to have grown up in what sounds like exactly the same surroundings.

I have no problem with multiculturalism, I have no problem with different nationalities - I have a problem with a supra-national power usurping democracy and see this particular set of circumstances we're living in as probably the only shot this country will have to escape its clutches before it makes the national institutions of democracy so atrophied and vestigial it will be impossible to regain national democracy without civil insurrection.

Did that teach you anything about me... or do you want to stick with your comfortable, wrong assumptions?

Ma school was an almost indescribable mix of degenerate chaos.

No anarchist element? Bright kids being lured by punk/hippy/anarchy/Rock/etc is simply correct. Only the most conservative could possible disagree. What next? You going to suggest drugs sex and rock n roll was a bad thing?

I claim a friend who had a part on Grange Hill.

I think your paranoia just kicked into overdrive.

I was comparing my school with Grange Hill - that's what this sub-thread is about.

Re. your comments - judged from their posts Remainers here do seem to think, despite your protestations to the contrary, that you're probably "more than averagely racist", and that this is one reason you're so vehemently against the EU and freedom of movement... and I agree with them.

Very strong anarchist and Rock Against Racism element (including me). Close friends worked in one of the first t-shirt printing shops in North London that had close links with a number of bands at the time (Weller was a notoriously horrible **nt).

All of those were great things. What wasn't great was a bunch of hippy teachers abdicating any form of responsibility for discipline. My very first day there as a 13 year old featured a classmate having a row with the teacher, who came over to his desk, picked up my friend's bag and smashed it down on the floor, breaking some of its contents. Uh, ok.

Later that same week a whole class was given a detention for being unruly. I, as a somewhat naive newcomer, was walking along to it only to be told by another classmate that "Nah, no one's going to that". So i went home.

Interesting times.

My best friends wife used to date Weller

Teachers who tried to keep control were far more fun. Good times.

My school was nearly all white. The supremacists focused on the jewish kids.

Dude. You talked about me specifically.

Try to keep up.

A, a right-on sanctimonious wanker! He he, I remember those pricks.

The penny drops.


I'm getting the vibe...

Not entirely surprising that diebitter would react with vitriolic abuse to a movement opposing the then powerful National Front.

BUT DON'T PIGEON HOLE ME AS A RACIST!

I guess it wasn't a comprehensive school?

diebitter in his own words, ladies and gentlemen...

LOL you mad bro.

Are my unfounded assumptions about you a bit annoying?

It's irritating to have to read some idiot's wrong assumptions about you, isn't it?

Your own words bruv - eat 'em.

Describing the EU where goods, services and people can move freely within the trading bloc as an overall negative is not the same as being against immigrants/fed up with immigrants/bloody immigrants. Brexiters play on soft racism to push an agenda of course. It works both ways, I am reminded of Gordon Brown as PM - 'British jobs for British workers' while pushing euro integration and free movement which allowed employers to pursue cheaper labour elsewhere in the EU. Its playing politics/the race card, they all do it.

It was half grammar, half something else

But the local comprehensives were the same. That's just how it was back in the 70s - I lived further out from the centre than you.

You can try to soul read people or you can read their own words. In diebitter's case both paths lead to the same destination.

Unfortunately some can only see racism. Racism/etc is a big factor in brexit but there was nearly as much anti-EU sentiment before free movement and immigration were even an issue.

Plenty of remainers are also racist/etc as well. It's just such a widespread problem, but it's not close to everything and it misses nearly all the stuff that's of importance in the debate.

And there we have it - in the place of cogent arguments from diebitter we get silly pictures.

The Brexit mindset personified.

I realise now exactly how wrong I was I said you were probably one of those sanctimonious wankers.

You've deffo proved me wrong

So what's the prefernce among remainers? The May deal or hard brexit?

Do you think long term the May option will change the British public's mind about rejoining EU, or create more anti EU feeling?

Same question, about hard brexit?

Life expectancy, steadily improving under Blair and Brown for obvious public-expenditure reasons, stalled from 2010 as soon as Cameron's coalition got in. The situation is now not very good at all and well behind most of the EU.



And, with Brexit, life expectancy is going to collapse. When I say millions will die, I seriously mean it. And that's just deaths due to reduced life expectancy, because of the crumbling of public finances. As for deaths due to food shortages, food riots and what insurance policies (including mine) call 'civil commotion', meaning general lawlessness, they're going to go off the scale.

diebastard: It's become clear that you have nothing to contribute other than trolling.

You can't even begin to explain how
tallies with your whining about immigration.