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07-09-2018 , 10:06 AM

#9826

tomdemaine

Just tries harder

Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,065

Good. If there's any justice that floppy hair c**t languishes in rightful obscurity for the rest of his miserable days. I doubt we'll be so lucky unfortunately.

07-09-2018 , 10:06 AM

#9827

diebitter

Grotesquely Handsome

Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 66,080

Yeah leadship contest imminent imo

07-09-2018 , 10:07 AM

#9828

Kafja

adept

Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 941

gg Boris, hope you choke to death

07-09-2018 , 10:12 AM

#9829

BOIDS

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Apr 2017 Posts: 14,935

gove prolly rang him up and was like yeah boris lets both resign then you can run for leadership (while keeping fingers crossed behind his back), and boris was like duh ok

07-09-2018 , 10:14 AM

#9830

champstark

aka starkwired

Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 14,838

Can someone TL;DR whether or not Brexit is still happening for a Yank, please?

ty

07-09-2018 , 10:17 AM

#9831

tomdemaine

Just tries harder

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Quote:

Originally Posted by champstark

Can someone TL;DR whether or not Brexit is still happening for a Yank, please?

ty

Brexit means Brexit. Strong and Stable. Best deal for Britain. Will of the British People.

(HELP WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE **** WE'RE DOING THIS WHOLE THING IS GOING TO BE AN UNMITIGATED DISASTER!)

07-09-2018 , 10:23 AM

#9832

DrRobotnit

banned

Join Date: Jun 2018 Posts: 217

Quote:

Originally Posted by champstark

Can someone TL;DR whether or not Brexit is still happening for a Yank, please?

ty

Judging by the resignation of 2 key senior Brexit Conservatives, including the actual Brexit secretary, I would say no, that is to say the Brexit faction are not satisfied with May's position which I guess is a minimal withdrawal. I doubt they are simply opportunistically seeking a leadership bid as this will likely bring a general election.

07-09-2018 , 10:29 AM

#9833

Kafja

adept

Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 941

07-09-2018 , 10:33 AM

#9834

jalfrezi

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Quote:

Originally Posted by champstark

Can someone TL;DR whether or not Brexit is still happening for a Yank, please?

ty

It's all up in the air with only a few weeks left for negotiations.

If you've ever seen a Carry On film...

07-09-2018 , 10:34 AM

#9835

tomdemaine

Just tries harder

Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,065

No one can take corbyn seriously as PM, his administration would be bound to be a total shambles...

07-09-2018 , 10:45 AM

#9836

chezlaw

Limey Bastard

Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 48,675

Yeah we can. It may well appear shambolic ( the press will certainly do their best) but lots of really good stuff will happen.

That's assuming an election and a labour majority. I doubt they can do anything with the current arithmetic.

07-09-2018 , 10:47 AM

#9837

jalfrezi

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tomdemaine

No one can take corbyn seriously as PM, his administration would be bound to be a total shambles...

40% (only 2% less than the Tories) took him seriously at the last election.

07-09-2018 , 10:47 AM

#9838

jalfrezi

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... and as Johnson has gone too I guess this becomes highly likely.

07-09-2018 , 10:50 AM

#9839

Kafja

adept

Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 941

Quote:

Originally Posted by jalfrezi

40% (only 2% less than the Tories) took him seriously at the last election.

he's doing a sarcasm mate

07-09-2018 , 10:53 AM

#9840

SuperUberBob

Not interesting enough

Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 48,217

Quote:

Originally Posted by jalfrezi

... and as Johnson has gone too I guess this becomes highly likely.

Suspected that something like this would happen.

But what if a package is put up and then voted down? Then it's the Brexit cliff, right?

07-09-2018 , 10:54 AM

#9841

chezlaw

Limey Bastard

Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 48,675

Quote:

Originally Posted by jalfrezi

... and as Johnson has gone too I guess this becomes highly likely.

Needs to be a referendum. Biggest danger is a hard brexiter leading the Tories into a general election and ****ing well wining it.

Tom may be joking about JC but the press will attack him so hard and we can't rely on the Tory campaign being as woeful as last time

07-09-2018 , 10:55 AM

#9842

PartyGirlUK

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Outstanding from LOTO here. Best I've heard from him.

07-09-2018 , 10:56 AM

#9843

jalfrezi

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperUberBob

Suspected that something like this would happen.

But what if a package is put up and then voted down? Then it's the Brexit cliff, right?

Then my hunch is that the non-insane part of Parliament (ie a large majority) and government insists on going back to the electorate with a "Are you really sure you know what you're doing here?" final referendum, possibly on cliff edge vs something else (Remain?), and when the once-bitten-twice-shy voters realise what it means for them and their families we get to stay in after all.

07-09-2018 , 10:57 AM

#9844

synth_floyd

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Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 7,074

So is Brexit cancelled yet?

07-09-2018 , 10:57 AM

#9845

chezlaw

Limey Bastard

Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 48,675

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperUberBob

Suspected that something like this would happen.

But what if a package is put up and then voted down? Then it's the Brexit cliff, right?

In the end it's up to parliament and the EU. If the political will is there then anything is possible.

The numbers are strongly against a cliff edge. The lack of a leader remains a problem.

07-09-2018 , 10:59 AM

#9846

chezlaw

Limey Bastard

Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 48,675

Quote:

Originally Posted by jalfrezi

Then my hunch is that the non-insane part of Parliament (ie a large majority) and government insists on going back to the electorate with a "Are you really sure you know what you're doing here?" final referendum, possibly on cliff edge vs something else (Remain?), and when the once-bitten-twice-shy voters realise what it emans for them and their families we get to stay in after all.

It's taken a long time but suddenly the call for a second referendum doesn't feel like farring in the wind anymore

07-09-2018 , 11:00 AM

#9847

PartyGirlUK

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Second referendum likelier under a Brexiter PM who could put their case to the vote - May would presumably have to campaign for a Brexit deal she thought would be bad for the UK.

07-09-2018 , 11:01 AM

#9848

SuperUberBob

Not interesting enough

Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 48,217

But the article has been invoked. I mean I don't recall there being an article to cancel withdrawal from the EU. As far as I am aware, the only thing between us and going off that cliff is whatever deal is made and any deal is likely to be better than the cliff.

07-09-2018 , 11:03 AM

#9849

jalfrezi

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperUberBob

At the point that the EU wants us to stay and we want to stay, its just a matter of realpolitik - Article 50 can be hand-waved away by UK and EU mandarins (its author says its retractable).