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06-28-2016 , 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by businessdude
I read the Vox article on the top reasons people voted Leave, and it makes sense. Relegating your power to some EU head in Belgium and having to live by insane EU regulations (kids under 8 can't blow up balloons) is enough right there. Throw in the immigration problem and I'd prolly vote Leave too.
Literally the top google result for "eu kids balloons"

EU DOES NOT ban children from blowing up balloons

What's it like to have such a defective bull**** detector that you thought that story was completely legit?

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Originally Posted by hornbug
The EU as run by the bureaucrats is bad for the majority of the countries in the EU. The UK is just the first to act on this.

Do you think letting in more Cologne-style rapists is good for any EU country?

And the financial mismanagement?
lol look at hornbug try to talk about global politics
06-28-2016 , 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by LukeSilver
Watched Farage clips I am not normally his biggest fan despite agreeing on the major issue of Europe. However after seeing his performance in Europe today I was flabbergasted. Brilliant does not even begin to describe it. I doubt many could have said it better it was a spectacular performance. I was delighted and impressed with how he stuck it to Europe he was right on the ball.

Simply magnificent performance from Farage today.
Yeah, quite funny. Calling the EU a neoliberal project that got rejected and the parliamentarians people that never had a real job.

Ignoring the fact that the UK was the most neoliberalforce within the EU and that he was a Investment banker.
06-28-2016 , 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by thechef
What is good about "interesting politics"?

What are you looking to achieve in your yearning to rip apart every political institution you've ever heard of? I'm genuinely curious because I think you're representative of a great many who voted leave (I assume you did).

I had previously considered this line of thinking to be a mere irritation but now it seems there are enough people like it that it has become genuinely destructive. We're on the verge of leaving the EU because of a groundswell of (IMO misdirected) anger. How can that be a good thing?
I'd quite like the parties to split but it's incredibly unlikely any split results in a significant demarcation of UK politics while you do first past the post elections. FPTP lends itself to two party systems which in turn lend themselves to being incredibly broad organisations susceptible to serious ideological differences that they struggle to resolve.
06-28-2016 , 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by thechef
What is good about "interesting politics"?
In the sense of the old Chinese curse, 'May you live in interesting times,' it appeals to psychopaths. The kind of psychopath who would say, 'I voted Leave just to watch the world burn.' Which would explain the attraction to Boris Johnson, who is certainly a narcissist and probably a psychopath. (Which is why Johnson is clinically incapable of telling the truth, and which is why he never seems to turn up to the office because he's always shagging someone else's secretary in the kitchens of a golf clubhouse in Kent, and which is why he never has any sort of organised plan for anything.)

Last edited by 57 On Red; 06-28-2016 at 03:03 PM.
06-28-2016 , 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
Literally the top google result for "eu kids balloons"

EU DOES NOT ban children from blowing up balloons
There is a war on balloons. My oldest daughter acted like everyone was going to choke to death if they got anywhere near one.
06-28-2016 , 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by BitchiBee

also have you been in public schools in the past 10 years?
When British people say 'public schools', they don't mean what you mean. You are using the term in the American sense.
06-28-2016 , 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by JacktheDumb
Yeah, quite funny. Calling the EU a neoliberal project that got rejected and the parliamentarians people that never had a real job.

Ignoring the fact that the UK was the most neoliberalforce within the EU and that he was a Investment banker.
Britain has had a problem with socialists I accept that we do still have a problem with socialists. However with recent democratic results I am left with hope that we are emerging into the light. I cannot say the same for The current European establishment however.

How is Nigel Farage been an investment banker relevant to this anyway?

plus Farage has always been a force to speak out against the absurd socialists.
06-28-2016 , 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by LukeSilver
Watched Farage clips I am not normally his biggest fan despite agreeing on the major issue of Europe. However after seeing his performance in Europe today I was flabbergasted. Brilliant does not even begin to describe it. I doubt many could have said it better it was a spectacular performance. I was delighted and impressed with how he stuck it to Europe he was right on the ball.

Simply magnificent performance from Farage today.
There are not enough laughing-spotty-dog emoticons in the universe to deal with this one.
06-28-2016 , 03:07 PM
Public schools are public in the same sense that Harrods is public i.e. anyone can shop there if they have enough money. Originally the distinction was with what today would be called homeschooling with paid tutors. Most of us go to state schools.
06-28-2016 , 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by LukeSilver
Britain has had a problem with socialists I accept that we do still have a problem with socialists. However with recent democratic results I am left with hope that we are emerging into the light. I cannot say the same for The current European establishment however.

How is Nigel Farage been an investment banker relevant to this anyway?

plus Farage has always been a force to speak out against the absurd socialists.
I thought the problem is neoiberals and not socialism. From what i heared you pretty much left for national socialism. More welfare to the poor british and kick out the non british. Wasnt one of the slogans that the money should go to welfare?


Also, political views between EU and UK are to different for it to work out, so the leave should help both to move in the direction they want.

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06-28-2016 , 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by LukeSilver
Watched Farage clips I am not normally his biggest fan despite agreeing on the major issue of Europe. However after seeing his performance in Europe today I was flabbergasted. Brilliant does not even begin to describe it. I doubt many could have said it better it was a spectacular performance. I was delighted and impressed with how he stuck it to Europe he was right on the ball.

Simply magnificent performance from Farage today.
06-28-2016 , 03:22 PM
The guy is mad.
06-28-2016 , 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by LektorAJ
Absolutely. As well as the practical arguments there are emotional arguments on both sides. I'm actually pretty close to the German federalist Weber who was speaking today about how he loved all the diversity and different cultures of the nations of Europe. I just see the uniformity of the EU as being against that whereas for some reason he sees it as supporting that.

For example it will be great to get a blue one of these ....

fyp

also, you shouldn't hotlink
06-28-2016 , 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by thechef
What is good about "interesting politics"?

What are you looking to achieve in your yearning to rip apart every political institution you've ever heard of? I'm genuinely curious because I think you're representative of a great many who voted leave (I assume you did).
I want to see something different. I'd like to see the two big parties broken down so that I can see genuine options beyond slightly different shades of grey. I don't want Trident, my vote in a general election is wasted. I want to leave the EU, my vote in a general election is wasted. I would like to vote for a left-leaning party that isn't a puppet of the unions, my vote is wasted. I'd like the Tory candidate parachuted in from Kent to not automatically win on the basis that Jimmy Saville could also win where I live on a blue rosette. Sure, a part of this is due to the voting system, but any change from that was shot down by the status quo parties - It could make the BNP relevant! It could cost us 1% of the cost of our nuclear missiles despite three quarters of the cost of it being deemed unnecessary or already spent!
06-28-2016 , 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Morphismus
fyp
Wp Morph.
06-28-2016 , 03:24 PM
also i am shocked to hear that people don't have luke on ignore
06-28-2016 , 03:24 PM
im not sure of the socialists on here can even see there pathetic attempts at circumnavigating reason.
06-28-2016 , 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by LukeSilver
Few things firstly I live in the Uk, and I voted out. I stand by it fully.

It is quite invidious for this narrow minded stuck up arrogant socialists to just assume me and people like me are just ignorant stupid and racist.

I am not trying to make some ostentatious boast I am by no means an expert on the issues. However I do have a degree in accounting and finance. I have studied philosophy and politics and I am more educated on the issues then most of those stuck up authoritarian socialists, who just want to assume me and people like me as uneducated racist bigots.

Am I going to defend the decision to vote out in terms of short term economics? No that would be absurd short of wanting to be an invidious troll that would serve little purpose.

In terms of short term economics the decision to leave was always going to be a disaster the only thing i can say has surprised me is I actually expected us to take much more of a hit then we currently have.

So why did I voted out?

well firstly a major reason is immigration and this will lead to shouts of racism, most socialists are not worth wasting the breath on. However for those that can listen.

Throughout history people have always been influenced by there cultures if i went on to criticize famous roman figures for there attitudes towards slavery, or other historical figures for there racist attitudes, what many people will respond with is that they were from a different time and were influenced by there culture.
Your second paragraph is wrong and the proof is in bold.
06-28-2016 , 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Morphismus
fyp

also, you shouldn't hotlink
Sorry about the hotlink - I'll be more careful in future. Is that the fyp? The only word I can see deleted is "again".
06-28-2016 , 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by LektorAJ
Until the next terrorist attack.
New York and Madrid too.
06-28-2016 , 03:32 PM
I am pretty damn conservative but I think in this case I speak for the liberals when I say they are pretty sure you are the one trying to circumnavigate reason.
06-28-2016 , 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by LektorAJ
Sorry about the hotlink - I'll be more careful in future. Is that the fyp? The only word I can see deleted is "again".
You need to take a closer look at how your passports will look like.
06-28-2016 , 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by LukeSilver
im not sure of the socialists on here can even see there pathetic attempts at circumnavigating reason.
Maybe people will start taking your posts seriously when you can demonstrate an understanding of basic grammar that the average 8 year old can manage.
06-28-2016 , 03:40 PM
you know its pretty pathetic when people can't refute my arguments so instead resort to personal attacks, and nit picking grammar. surely when that is the best response you can muster, you must realize deep down that your position is just absurd.
06-28-2016 , 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
Maybe people will start taking your posts seriously when you can demonstrate an understanding of basic grammar that the average 8 year old can manage.
he used there instead of their

lets hang him

      
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