Ask a question that is answerable and you may get an answer, oh the tyranny.

People being illiberal and people being terrorists seems to get conflated in these moments.

It's not about hate. It's about math.

Sorry, I wasn't clear. Basically zero chance. Not "like the south 60 years ago." Given that Islam is a radical political philosophy, iyo, how is it even ****ing possible that literally tens of thousands of Muslims have lived in a small area for many decades without a major incident? Or is Dearborn like a 200 year sleeper cell in it for the long con?

Kind of undermines your thesis that being Muslim is causal for murdering gays, imo.

He's been banned twice, both by wookie, and what? The bannings weren't justified, I'm sure, and he now has to walk on eggshells, and w/e, but it's kinda a downer that he can't post freely like everyone else? Does that sum up your situation Bitchi?

I mentioned earlier ITT that Dearborn is awesome on account of how well its Muslim immigrants have embraced US values--the example par excellence of peaceful, vibrant Muslim immigration and assimilation into a Western country. So once again lol Trump and Ted Cruz for thinking it's a pressing national emergency to begin round the clock patrols in order to intercept the secret Dearborn sleeper cell.

Europe, on the other hand, has failed disastrously in getting its Muslim immigrants to assimilate, and is clearly paying the price with the smallish minority that have drifted toward radicalization.

Zikzak said "hating 1.7 billion.." in the post you quoted. So math then, what's the number that makes hating all Muslims appropriate?

I've bolded the crazy part for you. The % of Muslims who are willing to carry out this type of violence is larger than you would like to believe. The % of Muslims who condone or excuse this type violence is so large it would make your head spin.

There have been numerous studies and polls by many reputable organizations that verify this.

American Muslims are the exception, not the rule. It's clear that there IS a verison of Islam that is compatible with the values of Western Civilization, but it's also clear that hundreds of millions of Muslims around the world aren't interested in that flavor.

I don't think they were justified, not walking on eggshells tho, just don't want to have a long discussion on my personal bans in this thread

So why aren't they interested, since being a Muslim is not a sufficient explanation of their incompatibility with the values of Western Civilization?

Well no ****. I would have been knocked over if you owned them. Ok no long discussion, you just wanted to drive-by and state that the modding is poor, then move on. Fine.

It's not the 300 million. It's the 300 million +1 and unpredictability of human behavior.

Wtf does that mean?

Cry about not having your questions answered, neglect chance to ask a more intelligent answerable question, make post about this instead, wp. Why do you bother? If I were in your position I would think the fun of posting here is to go toe to toe with somebody you think has terrible arguments and attempt to chessmate them, yet it's like 4/4 for you Clash of Civilizations guys tucking tail and running away after one comment, sad!

Let's flip this to reveal the logical error:

"Given that Nazism is a radical political philosophy that advocates the extermination of Jews, how is it even ****ing possible that literally tens of thousands of Nazis have lived in a small area in Argentina for many decades without a major incident"?

Therefore, using your same implied reasoning, Nazism is not a threat to Jews and doesn't lead to antisemitism!

See the problem with your question? The laws people form and enforce when they get majorities are very different to what they do when minorities or powerless.

One of the reasons the US is so exceptional (and the views of its Muslims so unusually liberal), is that populations are small and forced to integrate with the wider world. The higher the percentage of Muslims, the more radical and religious they are.
How? Where Muslims form majorities, they often form societies that act like Nazis toward gays and Jews and outsiders (non-Muslims). Where they're isolated minorities, they tend to be less willing to try and force their views on others. That's just human nature. It's an excellent reason for keeping immigration down.

Islam itself is a nasty ideology open to interpretation. Think of it (or Christianity, or communism, or far right thinking for that matter) as a mind-virus. In 10% or 20% it produces no harmful symptoms, in others it produces violent behavior, antisemitism, sexism, bigotry.

Not all KKK members lynch blacks or even want to. In fact, few probably do. That doesn't make KKK a harmless thing that we shouldn't marginalize/discourage. The core of KKK ideology is harmful and produces a terrible society if it gets enough members and power. The same is true of Islam.

Salafi Jihadism isn't Islam though.

You do much better when not talking about the terrorist attacks and Islam in general. Strong pivot by the left itt. Yes I will shortly be leaving this thread but imo liberal posters have been barking for years about how Muslim immigration will be a + for Europe. That is no longer a tenable position and I think you know it.

This is the way this thread ends
This is the way this thread ends
This is the way this thread ends
Not with a bang but a whimper.

Bolded Kedu, step up and ask, we're all ears.

Good post, although I'd take issue with "demonizing Islam writ large" which I think is an excuse to absolve the religion of blame. It's the mother lode of bad ideas, to quote a late night host. It's important not to demonize the adherents writ large. The religion is the problem.

Islam has some good ideas.

2 Americans dead in the Nice attack, father and son allegedly.

When the main thesis is "convert, enslave, or kill the entire world", the pinpricks of wisdom in said work tend to be a bit diminished.

yo, what was Pope Urban II's excuse then? I accept your retraction (for calling me demented and getting promptly clowned), no hard feelings.

P.S. let me remove the suspense I'm pasting from Wikipedia, Robert the Monk passages are not in my range.