Leave it to the ****ing dutch to mess things up as usual.
They should just leave these things to the pros, really.
They sent a blonde 'behind enemy lines'... in Gaddafi's Libya lol.
Idiots.

The Dutch military is well trained in getting captured without a fight. Nothing new here. But I'm 99% sure the person that needed evacuation was an intelligence asset or an important government official. In the same city where this evacuation needed to take place other EU nationals left through civilian charter flights, even after this incident. This operation is just loltastic. Heads need to roll.

In other news: 8 SAS members have been captured by rebels. Seeing how terribad the rebels are it's likely the SAS members actually let themselves get captured because their mission was to get into contact with the rebels.

Belarus-next!

Yemen - Civil war talk.
SA bans protests, from AJE:

SA revolt is a game changer for US foreign policy. I am just incredibly curious to see how it would play out.

lol

Awww gas is breaking new records in Netherlands, $9/gallon, 1.7 euro/l.
I remember a year or two ago when it broke 1.5 euro/l, there was insta protest by truck drivers, that was 20 cents ago heh.
It's time to take a look at electric cars offers imo.

You should get into media spinning, but you're probably right. I mean, it does make sense, and they did probably have strict orders regarding their engagements. They wouldn't want a headline saying, "British Special Forces Gun Down Innocent Farmer." They are the good guys, after all.

I was in STL for Mardi Gras last weekend and one our cab drivers was from Saudi Arabia. We were talking about gas prices which led to discussion about all the chaos in the ME. He said at least 1 in 3 people in SA are secret police (or being on the government dole, reporting other citizens, think a twisted neighborhood watch). He was supportive and glad for the people of other countries that are rebelling. But he essentially lol'd at me when I mentioned all the scheduling going on through facebook and other social media means for days of protest in Saudi Arabia.

Pretty amazing how strong the Saudi King's control of the country/citizens is. Don't know if that was well known info, but thought it was interesting.

The best headline would have been " SAS shoots the people they were supposed to contact."

My Egyptian coworkers told me pretty much exactly the same thing about Egypt and we all know how that played out.

Yeah, it seems like spreading that false rumor would be a lot more cost effective than making it true.

No ****. I'm pretty sure you can't bomb AA sites ( or shoot dowen planes ) without getting a war afterwards.

It's not basically a declaration of war, it is a declaration of war. Those intelligent people who have been arguing for a NFZ realize that and haven't beaten around the bush about it. It means a entering a war (not starting a war, because a war is already being waged, but entering it on one side, an important linguistic distinction imo that often gets overlooked).

Yeah, it would be difficult to call for NFZ and at the same time argue that US should just leave ME alone and stop bombing brown people. Thats why, around here, even thought you hear occasional "wont someone get involved and stop bloodshed" groans from peace loving liberals, you wont get any of them to actually clearly state their position on what US\West should do.

Ohh no...Thats exactly my point. They not calling for US to get involved, they calling for "someone" to get involved. Once US will get involved they would just pick up where they left and slam US for bombing brown people.

No,.none blame U.S. for getting involved in Kosovo for example.
It is those premeditate "Saddam has WMDs and must go,otherwise we will never feel safe" invasions,that pisses people of.
And U.S. probably can't to get involved in the third war with a Muslim nation.

Please show me the previous public liberal outrages about no-fly zones. Seeing as how you've posted this several times in this thread now I guess you can easily find a source for it.

Also: France recognized the opposition as the representatives of the country. If more countries would recognize the opposition and the opposition would ask for a no-fly zone would we still have to go through the UN to install one? This could bypass the opposition of Russia.

Actually it pissed off a lot of people, people who thought the US was just beating up on the helpless Serbs because they wouldn't toe the line of the neo-liberal agenda something something. A big chunk of the hard-left (as well as some of the not-so-hard-left and isolationist right) devoted a lot of time and effort to trying to show the "genocide" claims were a myth in the former Yugoslavia and tried their hardest to downplay every crime committed by the Serbs.

Stop attacking me with facts.

Greeks were extremely pissed as well, because they hated Muslims before it was cool.

Don't derail thread with balkans please or I'll have to start typing huge tl;dr posts , being born and raised there and serving in the Yugo army in early 90's when the conflict started... I have extensive first hand experience with all balkan wars throughout the 90's and I will only say this:
Most of the info that was reported to the western public in the 90's was 100% pure BS and propaganda, and the euro public as well as the US public later drank the kool-aid like it's a single malt scotch.
Keep it to the middle-east and don't talk about things you don't understand... please?

Oh thank you wise one,what would we do with out your guidance?

You would stay brainwashed?