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04-26-2012 , 12:27 PM

#2001

LirvA

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How would it be dumb? If he were very pro MJ legalization I'd probably vote for him again.

04-26-2012 , 12:28 PM

#2002

ikestoys

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Yeah, the stoner community has a super strong GOTV system. No one against MJ legalization either. Everyone's solid.

04-26-2012 , 12:30 PM

#2003

LirvA

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Well where is he gonna lose votes? He'll gain some stoner votes, won't lose many dem votes, sure as hell won't lose any R votes cause he doesn't have them.

04-26-2012 , 12:32 PM

#2004

prana

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People arrested for setting booby traps that never went off

04-26-2012 , 12:33 PM

#2005

Dids

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There's a difference between understanding Obama's stance (and I have wondered what whas going on there, and thought his clarification made sense even if I don't agree with it) and supporting it.

Massive lol's at LirvA's moral bankruptcy.

04-26-2012 , 12:33 PM

#2006

LirvA

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Besides, it's wrong that that's all that matters. All that should matter is that people would have more freedom. A good president would make those decisions, votes be damned.

04-26-2012 , 12:33 PM

#2007

DblBarrelJ

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IDK LirvA.

I think there's more D's against marijuana legalization than you think.

I don't know that they'd vote Romney but it may keep then away from the poles.

And IDK if the increase in stoner votes would make it a politically wise choice.

04-26-2012 , 12:34 PM

#2008

ikestoys

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LirvA

Well where is he gonna lose votes? He'll gain some stoner votes, won't lose many dem votes, sure as hell won't lose any R votes cause he doesn't have them.

Well if your going to argue from fantasyland sure.

04-26-2012 , 12:34 PM

#2009

LirvA

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Hi Dids!

04-26-2012 , 12:34 PM

#2010

FlyWf

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ikestoys

What fly really means to say is that it would be dumb politics for Obama to come out strong for MJ (and it would be really, really, dumb).

No idea why he's beating around the point.

No, I was just giving a remedial civics lesson. If you don't like laws, the appropriate person to blame is the legislature that wrote them not the executive that enforces them.

04-26-2012 , 12:35 PM

#2011

prana

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So my idea that many libertarians just want legal weed is being proven? I thought Obama was evil incarnate? But hey if he's for legal weed!?

04-26-2012 , 12:36 PM

#2012

LirvA

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No.

04-26-2012 , 12:37 PM

#2013

ikestoys

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyWf

No, I was just giving a remedial civics lesson. If you don't like laws, the appropriate person to blame is the legislature that wrote them not the executive that enforces them.

The last 25 years of executive power says hi then.

04-26-2012 , 12:37 PM

#2014

DblBarrelJ

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Quote:

Originally Posted by prana

People arrested for setting booby traps that never went off

Booby Trap material goes in the Trayvon thread.

Or PM it to bernie. He has massive interest in them.

04-26-2012 , 12:38 PM

#2015

LirvA

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyWf

No, I was just giving a remedial civics lesson. If you don't like laws, the appropriate person to blame is the legislature that wrote them not the executive that enforces them.

I read this post but all I see is that cop pepper spraying that group of seated students. Can imagine him saying "don't write the laws, just enforce em."

04-26-2012 , 12:41 PM

#2016

LirvA

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Quote:

Originally Posted by prana

So my idea that many libertarians just want legal weed is being proven? I thought Obama was evil incarnate? But hey if he's for legal weed!?

The deal with marijuana, the way I see it is it's symbolic of government oppression and citizens fighting for freedom. And I see it as one of the last great civil rights battles.

I want all drugs legalized. I want no government.

04-26-2012 , 12:50 PM

#2017

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EricLindros

WRT the medical marijuana thing, for the people saying "not O's fault, he can't go soft on it and lose those votes!" I say, what votes:

CBS News Poll

Did you not see the interview posted above where he explained his position?

Basically he has zero problem with medicinal marijuana but when its being abused and sold to recreational users he and the DOJ has no choice but to prosecute and raid the dispensaries under the current laws on the books.

04-26-2012 , 12:55 PM

#2018

Chips Ahoy

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LirvA

I read this post but all I see is that cop pepper spraying that group of seated students. Can imagine him saying "don't write the laws, just enforce em."

How about a Lt. Pike update?

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/...-davis/256058/

The reports have been published. It turns out the protesters had every right to be on the quad that day and the police had no right to disperse/arrest them. oops. There was documentation of this as well. The police knew they had no right to take action against the occupiers.

Lt. Pike violated a number of rules, orders, laws. Not just the pepper spraying.

He gets to keep his job. The evidence against him is not allowed to be considered. Everything related to why he keeps his job stays secret.

So actually, he was writing the laws.

04-26-2012 , 12:55 PM

#2019

LirvA

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If he has no problem with medical, then he should have no problem with patients, right? Why then the whole thing about gun shops shouldn't sell to patients?

Also, if no problem with medical, why no dispensaries advertising in magazines?