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04-15-2010 , 04:25 PM

#326

SL__72

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyWf

If you were to make a Venn Diagram of the issues Tea Party members care about, and the issues Tea Party members are confused about, you'd only see one circle.

QFawesome.

04-15-2010 , 04:25 PM

#327

Ineedaride2

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyWf

If you were to make a Venn Diagram of the issues Tea Party members care about, and the issues Tea Party members are confused about, you'd only see one circle.

Ok, I have to say it. This is pretty funny.

04-15-2010 , 04:25 PM

#328

Ineedaride2

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Now I'm putting myself on ignore.

04-15-2010 , 04:27 PM

#329

Vecernicek

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ineedaride2

Ok, I have to say it. This is pretty funny.

indeed

04-15-2010 , 04:46 PM

#330

ianlippert

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ineedaride2

Now I'm putting myself on ignore.

If you do that does your account blow up?

04-15-2010 , 05:08 PM

#331

ikestoys

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyWf

If you were to make a Venn Diagram of the issues Tea Party members care about, and the issues Tea Party members are confused about, you'd only see one circle.

Dvaut illustrated quite nicely that this is true for all of America, so don't go thinking your 'side' or whatever is super awesome.

04-15-2010 , 05:48 PM

#332

pvn

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ikestoys

Dvaut illustrated quite nicely that this is true for all of America, so don't go thinking your 'side' or whatever is super awesome.

Fly understands all things 100% perfectly.

04-15-2010 , 05:50 PM

#333

NeBlis

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyWf

If you were to make a Venn Diagram of the issues Tea Party members care about, and the issues Tea Party members are confused about, you'd only see one circle.

only 16,451 posts to make an awesome one... well done.

04-15-2010 , 05:54 PM

#334

NeBlis

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyWf

If you were to make a Venn Diagram of the issues Tea Party members care about, and the issues Tea Party members are confused about, you'd only see one circle.

Quote:

Originally Posted by NeBlis

only 16,451 posts to make an awesome one... well done.

oh well never mind. as soon as I got suspicions at the awesome wit displayed and googled that phrase it shows up in a ton of lefty blogs, forums, and op-eds.

back to ground zero i guess. better luck next time.

04-15-2010 , 05:58 PM

#335

FlyWf

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I didn't claim it to be original, just that it's funny. I really love that pvn has embraced the Tea Party ethos with such vigor that he know trolls me by accusing me of "knowing things".

04-15-2010 , 06:04 PM

#336

ikestoys

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyWf

I didn't claim it to be original, just that it's funny. I really love that pvn has embraced the Tea Party ethos with such vigor that he know trolls me by accusing me of "knowing things".

He's not so subtly accusing you of arrogance imo.

04-15-2010 , 06:08 PM

#337

FlyWf

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ikestoys

Dvaut illustrated quite nicely that this is true for all of America, so don't go thinking your 'side' or whatever is super awesome.

kool? What sort of nonsense false equivalence is this? What side am I even on? Is this another thing where I'm like "Man the Tea Party is full of ******s" and you're like "NOT EVERY ****** IS A TEA BAGGER I WIN THIS ROUND" because you don't understand how language works?

04-15-2010 , 06:13 PM

#338

NeBlis

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non tebagger ******s ITT

04-15-2010 , 07:22 PM

#339

Sholar

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How many of that 47% not paying income taxes are paying taxes that come out of their wages?

Same link as above: When considering federal income taxes in combination with payroll taxes, the percent of households with a net liability of zero or less is estimated to be 24% this year, according to the Tax Policy Center's estimates.

Still high, but that seems like the more relevant number.

04-15-2010 , 07:28 PM

#340

USC Cheats

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So 24% of households have no wages then. 10% unemployment and 14% seniors almost gets us there (yes I know not all the way, and ICY). Pretty much everyone else pays taxes. GG republitard talking point.

04-15-2010 , 07:29 PM

#341

BurningSquirrel

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NeBlis

non tebagger ******s ITT

you are a fudgepacker

04-15-2010 , 07:32 PM

#342

Ineedaride2

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BurningSquirrel

you are a fudgepacker

This should really turn the conversation into something a little more intellectual.

04-15-2010 , 07:34 PM

#343

BurningSquirrel

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ineedaride2

This should really turn the conversation into something a little more intellectual.

you get it?

04-15-2010 , 07:47 PM

#344

Chips Ahoy

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Unironically quoting Megan McCardle:

Quote:

But that doesn't mean we need to raise taxes on poor people; rather, it means they should have some skin in the game. Simplify the tax code, and expand the EITC into a negative income tax which then continuously scales into a progressive income tax up to some maximum . . . and then make it clear that new spending means that all the marginal rates go up a little bit. If you want a new project, you have to be willing to give up some of your EITC to pay for it. Not as much, percentage-wise, as Warren Buffet might pay. But no free programs.

This makes sense to me. Slide the rates each year to get a balanced budget.

04-15-2010 , 07:52 PM

#345

Ineedaride2

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BurningSquirrel

you get it?

No, but humor's not my strong suit. This is actually an honorary title.

04-15-2010 , 07:53 PM

#346

SL__72

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There is no reason to "balance the budget" when you have a printing press. In fact they specifically don't want to do that because they are "targeting" 2% inflation.

04-15-2010 , 08:24 PM

#347

BurningSquirrel

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ineedaride2

No, but humor's not my strong suit. This is actually an honorary title.

Ah it was from the latest South Park episode - so nevermind

04-15-2010 , 08:30 PM

#348

ikestoys

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Quote:

Originally Posted by USC Cheats

Ummm no. People who are unemployed still make some money for the year. Very few people are unemployed for a year plus... I'm pretty sure UE benefits are taxable as well. What happens is that tax credits get to be greater than what you paid into SS/Medicare.

And I thought we were talking about income tax as well.

04-15-2010 , 08:42 PM

#349

Sholar

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ikestoys

And I thought we were talking about income tax as well.

We were.

I am not sure why we should make such a strong distinction between income tax and payroll taxes. Can I ask (non-rhetorically) why that distinction is important in this type of discussion?