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04-19-2010 , 09:41 AM

#401

Ineedaride2

Politics Court Jester

Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 25,080

Quote:

Originally Posted by RollinHand

Fergie Olver is a pedophile.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=678_1271373132

WTF is this ****!? They let this guy do this on national television and the audience applaud him?

Yeah, but those were the days when boy scout leaders just wanted to turn kids into woodsman, and your priest only touched you because he loved you.

Those were the days of innocence, when you could nail your 8th grade teacher and the coaches would give you high fives.

Those were the days.

04-19-2010 , 09:54 AM

#402

RollinHand

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Lols. I actually read a comment just like that on another message board. But he wasn't being sarcastic.

04-19-2010 , 04:45 PM

#403

Nottom

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Well if healthcare is a right, why not vacations ...

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle7100943.ece

04-19-2010 , 04:59 PM

#404

Brian J

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Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 10,650

lol

http://biggovernment.com/capitolconf...s/#more-108654

White House Caught Altering Stimulus Baseline Projection by 7 Million Jobs

Quote:

The number of jobs in the U.S. is currently 129.7 million...

An inconvenient truth, at least for the Obama Administration, is that once upon a time, in their January 2009 Romer/Bernstein Report they told America that without their stimulus there would be 133.9 million jobs. That’s right, in order to make it look like their stimulus has “created or saved” 2.8 million jobs, the Obama Administration first had to whack 7 million jobs from their previous estimates.

Here’s the math:
Step 1: How many jobs does the Administration currently claim there would be, without stimulus?
129.7 million Current number of U.S. jobs
- 2.8 million Jobs currently claimed to be “created or saved”
126.9 million Jobs the Administration currently claims there would be without stimulus
Step 2: How does that compare with the number of jobs the Administration used to say there would be without stimulus?
133.9 million January 2009 projection of jobs without stimulus
- 126.9 million Current claim of jobs without stimulus
= 7 million Jobs removed from the Administration “baseline” to justify their latest stimulus job creation claims

04-19-2010 , 05:22 PM

#405

Huehuecoyotl

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Maybe they were expecting 7 million people to die from the swine flu

04-19-2010 , 06:00 PM

#406

zer0

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Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,835

more jobs more jobs more jobs

Spoiler:

Last edited by zer0; 04-19-2010 at 06:13 PM.

04-19-2010 , 06:09 PM

#407

Huehuecoyotl

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^ Should be in spoilers imo.

04-19-2010 , 06:13 PM

#408

zer0

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fixt fixt

04-19-2010 , 10:44 PM

#409

obsidian

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Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 5,957

Government to set sodium limits in food

Quote:

Policy makers will have to decide whether to exempt inherently salty foods, such as pickles, while mandating changes in other products to reduce the overall sodium levels in the food supply.

Above all, government officials and food industry executives say, a product with reduced salt must still taste good, or it will flop in the marketplace, as evidenced by several low-sodium products that had abysmal sales.

See, just the government fixing another market failure.

04-19-2010 , 11:37 PM

#410

samsonh

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Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 3,535

Most of my friends are liberals, but they are very compassionate people. Tonight I hung out with some liberals that are just bad people. We were talking about the local Children's hospital and they were bitching about how much tuition is to that school and how you shouldn't support the hospital because they "have so much money". these people are insane and give liberals a bad name just like ultra conservatives give the GOP a bad rep. Why can't people be normal and sane?

04-20-2010 , 02:04 AM

#411

Huehuecoyotl

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Some musings on the Icelandic volcano

04-20-2010 , 02:07 AM

#412

ikestoys

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I've read in a couple places that Icelandic volcano activity is supposed to increase quite a bit, peaking at 2040-2060.

However, I've also read that once the glacier around the volcano is melted, there should be more lava produced instead of ash, which would mean air travel would be back on.

04-20-2010 , 03:58 AM

#413

FlyWf

It's the other way

Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 58,090

This is a really, really good article imo:
http://www.juliansanchez.com/2010/03...reat-of-doubt/

04-20-2010 , 07:57 AM

#414

mosdef

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyWf

This is a really, really good article imo:
http://www.juliansanchez.com/2010/03...reat-of-doubt/

It's a decent article, certainly the American conservatives tend to "circle the wagons" intellectually, to their disadvantage. A greater insight is to acknowledge that people of all political leanings do this. Just accusing "the conservatives" of doing it is, frankly, ironic.

04-20-2010 , 09:07 AM

#415

ErikTheDread

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Whoa. There are some twisted people out there: "Passengers dumped dying driver in road after drive-by, then took his cab to hospital"

04-20-2010 , 10:47 AM

#416

iron81

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mosdef

Glen Greenwald says hi. Liberals are much more intellectually honest and open to criticism than conservatives. This is why the circular firing squad metaphor mostly applies to the Dems and why liberals are constantly complaining that the Dems cave to conservative pressure.

04-20-2010 , 12:34 PM

#417

ikestoys

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lmao iron.

04-20-2010 , 01:20 PM

#418

BurningSquirrel

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl

Some musings on the Icelandic volcano

hehe great

04-20-2010 , 02:08 PM

#419

FlyWf

It's the other way

Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 58,090

Quote:

Originally Posted by mosdef

No, that's absolutely a false equivalence. There is nothing comparable to the pervasive echo chamber that is Fox News/right wing radio. The left has not been telling its base that articles in the Wall Street Journal are FICTION for the past 20 years.

Quote:

Reality is defined by a multimedia array of interconnected and cross promoting conservative blogs, radio programs, magazines, and of course, Fox News. Whatever conflicts with that reality can be dismissed out of hand because it comes from the liberal media, and is therefore ipso facto not to be trusted. (How do you know they’re liberal? Well, they disagree with the conservative media!)

There is nothing like that outside of the conservative base.

But even just in wagon circling the left doesn't demand nearly the degree of ideological lockstep. I mean, think of the prominent non-party opinion makers on the left. OK, your first problem was that there really aren't any. The left doesn't have a Rush Limbaugh or Glen Beck. Politicians will never mention Rachel Maddow or whatever. But of the significant elements of the netroots, there's a huge spread between Obama loyalists like Balloon Juice/Nate Silver, mainstream progressives at Kos, crazy people at FDL, and principled civil libertarians like Glenn Greenwald, etc. They all link to each other and discuss their disagreements.

Whether to oppose the health care bill from the left for being insufficiently progressive was a contentious issue. Nobody got fired, or blacklisted, or whatever over their views on it.

Kathleen Parker and Christopher Buckley got fired from National Review for saying Sarah Palin was dumb. Frum got fired for suggesting that the Republicans may have done something wrong after suffering a major defeat.

04-20-2010 , 02:26 PM

#420

BurningSquirrel

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can anybody tell me how many blackwater/ xe services guys there are currently in Iraq and Afghanistan?

04-20-2010 , 02:29 PM

#421

TomVeil

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Quote:

"We know that there are more than 100,000 contractors currently working in Afghanistan," McCaskill said. "The number of Defense Department contractors alone may reach 160,000 in the next year."

Quote:

In 2008, the U.S. nonprofit Human Rights First estimated that there were "well over 200,000 U.S. government private contractors in Iraq, far greater than the number of U.S. military personnel."

http://www.rferl.org/content/US_Use_...n/1924419.html

Only place I looked.

Edit: Not all those are BW/XE

04-20-2010 , 02:31 PM

#422

The 13th 4postle

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blackwater/xe got kicked out didn't it?

04-20-2010 , 02:35 PM

#423

TomVeil

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The company’s last contracts in Iraq have been transferred to other companies. But Iraqi authorities say about 250 former Blackwater employees remain behind, some working for other security firms.

http://www.internet-d.com/?p=6944