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04-01-2019 , 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky
the terms and conditions were written to protect us. to allow us to censor whatever we want. they list as many things as they can think of.

but no, we don't want stormfront style racism and hatred here. but we've reached a point, from my perspective, that you guys feel that all republicans are stormfront style racists.

again, i don't really mind how this individual forum is policed. it seems to me that it is people from this forum who are overly concerned how other forums on this site are policed.
It may have something to do with the fact that Stormfront-style racists think that Republicans are their people, and those Republicans keep saying Stormfront-style racist things. Like, you realize that Republicans support rounding people up and putting them in camps, right?
04-02-2019 , 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by +rep_lol


lol you are just drunk and trolling at this point
i am sober and serious. posters from this particular forum seem to scour this website for things they find objectionable and demand changes.

not you, perhaps. this latest bout of me urinating on the politics forum came about because people were outraged in the mod forum by one bit of questionable moderation in the pog politics thread.

it was that discussion, btw, that prompted augie to create his own politics thread in lvl.
04-02-2019 , 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
It may have something to do with the fact that Stormfront-style racists think that Republicans are their people, and those Republicans keep saying Stormfront-style racist things. Like, you realize that Republicans literally support rounding people up and putting them in camps, right?
They don't really support the camps. It's just that when it comes down to a choice between stopping it versus an extra $5 in their paycheck and having to waste extra energy thinking about it...
04-02-2019 , 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul D
Really? The person in question is using a black minstrel style avatar and the motivation there is nothing more to upset people. Does it need to be a swastika before you recognize stormfront style racism?
actually i do wonder about that avatar. he's had it for many years and this is the first i heard it was a problem.

do you have a link to the origin of that avatar and why it's racist? i would be happy to make him delete it if there is an appropriate reason.
04-02-2019 , 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky
the terms and conditions were written to protect us. to allow us to censor whatever we want. they list as many things as they can think of.

but no, we don't want stormfront style racism and hatred here. but we've reached a point, from my perspective, that you guys feel that all republicans are stormfront style racists.

again, i don't really mind how this individual forum is policed. it seems to me that it is people from this forum who are overly concerned how other forums on this site are policed.
You and Mason are like a ****ed up version of good cop, bad cop. You come around like "oh hey I don't have a problem with anything, I just don't want to be bothered" while Mason, on the other hand, hates liberals and the fact that he gets repeatedly owned when he starts threads here, so he comes in and threatens to shut down the forum.

So, for that reason, this:

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Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky
again, i don't really mind how this individual forum is policed.
is worth nothing. Mason will continue to be on edge about how the Politics forum (and only this forum) is run regardless of how you feel.
04-02-2019 , 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky
it was that discussion, btw, that prompted augie to create his own politics thread in lvl.
It was you who told him to. It was you who then gave him a forum when his thread was, predictably, virulent AIDS to the forum he supposedly moderates.
04-02-2019 , 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky
i am sober and serious. posters from this particular forum seem to scour this website for things they find objectionable and demand changes.

not you, perhaps. this latest bout of me urinating on the politics forum came about because people were outraged in the mod forum by one bit of questionable moderation in the pog politics thread.

it was that discussion, btw, that prompted augie to create his own politics thread in lvl.
Ok that's one example.

Compared to hundreds of snowflakes crying about temp bans and infraction points from the bully politic mods.

Let's just be honest and admit that you identify more with them and you take it personal.
04-02-2019 , 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Crossnerd
But I had to bring it up.

There was NOT enough objection to it in the original thread. If there had been, I wouldn't be here right now doing this.

It wasn't enough when it happened, and THAT IS ENOUGH for me to freak out over.
There WAS, however, objection... and it was in the March LC thread, a thread in which I would imagine a lot of us don't read every post. I had to go back and find it to see what it was even about. Maybe it would have been the same reaction if it was in The Presidency of Donald J. Trump thread, maybe not, I don't know. But it's not like there was widespread use of it, widespread agreement with it, or no condemnation.

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Originally Posted by Crossnerd
I live in a state where if I am "mentally incapacitated" because I "did it to myself" via drinks or drugs, I can't be "raped". I live in a state where if I change my mind mid-sex and say stop, and he doesn't stop, thats not rape. (North Carolina, google it)

Do not preach to me about the repercussions of sexist lanuage. I need only ONE person to consider me a "drunk whore" here for me to lose my entire sense of self. My chances are 1 in 5. You play poker, do you like those odds??

This isn't your fight, so you don't get it. But I have to worry about it every time I go out. You act like I'm making a big deal out of things- MY CARDS ARE LIVE. 1 in 5. Do you like those odds??
Didn't know that about North Carolina, guess it's another on the list of really ****ty things about one of the GOP-controlled states that hopefully Dems can fix if they ever get enough power.

But to try to create some sort of link between dth's post here and the response to it and those ****ty laws is a huge false equivalence. To try to claim that this politics forum is a sexist hell hole is crazy. You think almost every reg here doesn't vehemently oppose those sorts of laws? Or doesn't factor that type of stuff into voting/demonstrating/volunteering/donating decisions?
04-02-2019 , 12:05 AM
Mat, for real, you should have a chat with your lawyers before you get too far into this.
04-02-2019 , 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky
actually i do wonder about that avatar. he's had it for many years and this is the first i heard it was a problem.

do you have a link to the origin of that avatar and why it's racist? i would be happy to make him delete it if there is an appropriate reason.
Oh God, Mat. You should be able to tell that it's racist just by looking at it.
04-02-2019 , 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky
actually i do wonder about that avatar. he's had it for many years and this is the first i heard it was a problem.

do you have a link to the origin of that avatar and why it's racist? i would be happy to make him delete it if there is an appropriate reason.
Lirva is the one who made a big deal of it last year and augie did change it. Can't recall what name Lirva was using or which ATF thread, but this isn't a new complaint. He only changed it back recently to annoy people.
04-02-2019 , 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
It may have something to do with the fact that Stormfront-style racists think that Republicans are their people, and those Republicans keep saying Stormfront-style racist things. Like, you realize that Republicans support rounding people up and putting them in camps, right?
That's the thing. You want me to just agree with you. And maybe I even do agree with you more than you might believe, but my obligation, my personal obligation is to have this site be as open to as many people as possible. You're asking me to hate and silence half of our potential audience.

I find your position to be truly unreasonable. Can I assume these other mainstream media outlets (fox new, limbaugh, etc..) should be silenced as well is your belief?

Otoh, I have no problem with you confronting those people. But if your solution is to merely silence them, then these other threads and forums will continue to pop up on this website.
04-02-2019 , 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by cuserounder
Oh God, Mat. You should be able to tell that it's racist just by looking at it.

i admit i can be very stupid, but i need more information. why wasn't this mentioned 10 years ago, for instance?
04-02-2019 , 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by cuserounder
There appear to be others in here that I missed because they used "whores" and "whoreish" but obviously Crossnerd has no problem with calling people fame whores/attention whores based on her posting there. She did have a problem with someone jokingly saying that her reference to Avenatti was "unfair to whores" because they didn't use the term "sex worker" instead.
Its OUR word. Again, see the n-word. Its ours, we can use it, you can't, if you don't understand why you probably have a problem.

Even in terms of it being ours, there are still plenty of white women sitting at the right hand of patriarchy who use it too, and **** THEM ALSO. You think I wouldn't come for them too? You're wrong.
04-02-2019 , 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by cuserounder
Point being, I don't think this forum has some kind of sexism problem, I don't think that sexism here goes unaddressed, and I think attacking this forum as some sort of institution that defends sexism is kind of absurd.
If ONE person says it, and nobody else takes the line I have here, then you are ALL indicted, yes.
04-02-2019 , 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky
i admit i can be very stupid, but i need more information. why wasn't this mentioned 10 years ago, for instance?
I wasn't around this politics forum 10 years ago that I recall, at least not regularly. But I mean it's like any racist caricature you'll see with exaggerated features. Seriously, google "racist black caricature" and click on images, and you'll probably see a couple like it in the first few rows.
04-02-2019 , 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Crossnerd
Its OUR word. Again, see the n-word. Its ours, we can use it, you can't, if you don't understand why you probably have a problem.

Even in terms of it being ours, there are still plenty of white women sitting at the right hand of patriarchy who use it too, and **** THEM ALSO. You think I wouldn't come for them too? You're wrong.
I knew a gay male sex worker that hung out at the same cafe who used the word. I definitely don't think it's a female only word.
04-02-2019 , 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by cuserounder
There WAS, however, objection...
It was pathetic "maybe you shouldn't" ism. Not good enough.

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Didn't know that about North Carolina, guess it's another on the list of really ****ty things about one of the GOP-controlled states that hopefully Dems can fix if they ever get enough power.

But to try to create some sort of link between dth's post here and the response to it and those ****ty laws is a huge false equivalence. To try to claim that this politics forum is a sexist hell hole is crazy. You think almost every reg here doesn't vehemently oppose those sorts of laws? Or doesn't factor that type of stuff into voting/demonstrating/volunteering/donating decisions?
Ownership of women's bodies. Thats the link.
04-02-2019 , 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
You and Mason are like a ****ed up version of good cop, bad cop. You come around like "oh hey I don't have a problem with anything, I just don't want to be bothered" while Mason, on the other hand, hates liberals and the fact that he gets repeatedly owned when he starts threads here, so he comes in and threatens to shut down the forum.

So, for that reason, this:



is worth nothing. Mason will continue to be on edge about how the Politics forum (and only this forum) is run regardless of how you feel.

That's mostly true. But I do believe that if there were fewer exiles then there would be fewer complaints coming to Mason's attention and I also believe people would be freer to speak their mind on all sides. It's the being kicked out that people complain about. They don't usually complain about other posters just being mean to them.
04-02-2019 , 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky
Otoh, I have no problem with you confronting those people.
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
this: is worth nothing. Mason will continue to be on edge about how the Politics forum (and only this forum) is run regardless of how you feel.
It's cute that you feel that way Mat, but Mason has a huge problem with us confronting those people. He threatened to shut down Politics because of it!

edit, for xpost above:

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Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky
They don't usually complain about other posters just being mean to them.
That is exactly why Mason told us he was considering shutting down the forum!
04-02-2019 , 12:18 AM
I object to the slandering of Slovenia. It was one of the most free countries behind the Iron Curtain, and the first to gain it's independence. It was a democracy well before Melania ever left. And they have wonderful hockey players.

I do feel for Melania because there is no way she wanted to be 1st lady. And I'm sure she's trapped by a killer pre-nup.
04-02-2019 , 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by cuserounder
I wasn't around this politics forum 10 years ago that I recall, at least not regularly. But I mean it's like any racist caricature you'll see with exaggerated features. Seriously, google "racist black caricature" and click on images, and you'll probably see a couple like it in the first few rows.
I will investigate. Sending augie a pm right now to get his explanation first.
04-02-2019 , 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by cuserounder
I wasn't around this politics forum 10 years ago that I recall, at least not regularly. But I mean it's like any racist caricature you'll see with exaggerated features. Seriously, google "racist black caricature" and click on images, and you'll probably see a couple like it in the first few rows.
Mat wasn't raised by wolves. He knows this already.
04-02-2019 , 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by NhlNut
I object to the slandering of Slovenia. It was one of the most free countries behind the Iron Curtain, and the first to gain it's independence. It was a democracy well before Melania ever left. And they have wonderful hockey players.

I do feel for Melania because there is no way she wanted to be 1st lady. And I'm sure she's trapped by a killer pre-nup.
if melania divorced donald today, she would get millions of dollars for interviews and photos from the press over the next few years. she wouldn't starve. if she's not into the evil **** and is only staying with donald because of a ****ty prenup, she's going along with all of it because she wants to live the billionaire lifestyle instead of the millionaire lifestyle. she sucks.
04-02-2019 , 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
Mat wasn't raised by wolves. He knows this already.
i sort of was raised by wolves. i never thought of it as a racist image. if it's such an offensive avatar i really do wonder why nobody complained in the last 15 years? we've received loads of complaints about avatars and deleted many of them.

      
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