As America loses its mind, South Korea goes about business as usual

I can't tell if you're upset with the vile Pastor or Namath.

Hot Take: North Korea has tested all the former us presidents

... who ever said tact had anything to do with diplomacy?

I don't remember Lincoln having to deal with them but didn't really pay attention in history class

Ouch.

Pretty sure around 50 years ago we stopped requiring regional air bases to deploy nuclear weapons. Hopefully KJU is aware of this and doesn't OOPS his way into getting vaporized by striking Guam under this false assumption.

One sub is probably correct tbh. 24 missiles with 10 MIRVs each. And we've got 14 of those subs. Kinda scary when you realize how powerful that is.

Not all 14 are on patrol at once, there are turn over times for the split crew members.

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What makes you so sure of this? NK has a sub fleet. What if they've already deployed some devices to their subs?

Besides, even their land-based assets are probably in secure locations in remote areas. I mean, I'm sure a US first strike would go a long way to getting all of the NK weapons, but even if it were 99% effective you could still be looking at 20m+ dead Americans.

Also, I'm pretty sure a first strike by the US is a) illegal by both US and international law, and b) a war crime.

All military options are horrible here, folks. You don't get to just stop Kim by pushing a few buttons. You need to be willing to sacrifice potentially 100,000 troops, 2-3m Koreans, and possibly a nuclear strike on the USA.

And all to stop a guy who's never fired a shot at anyone, except with words.

there is no scenario where 10s of thousands (likely 100s of thousands) of South Koreans die. no. scenario.

and then when we break it we own it. remember Iraq?

and then you own the rebuilding effort and refugee crisis with millions of Koreans walking around looking for food and shelter. but strength power america strong. amirite?

I agree, I'm very anti-war with North Korea and in general. My post just tied into a conversation about the rationale behind the Guam threat, like whether or not there was some scenario KJU was envisioning where he could avoid destruction and retain power through attacking Guam.

Doesn't seem like there's much to it, though. It could just be level one chest thumping.

I wonder how all of this would have went down if Clinton was president (im sure would have been handled a lot better).I think war is pointless but trump is going to look super weak if nothing happens after his statements. I feel appeasement is a joke. Look what happened in the past when world leaders try to appease.

I hate Kju and he doesn't want to diplomatically come to a deal. I honestly hope we wipe North Korea off the map if they send missiles toward Guam. Why would anyone want a leader with a developing nuclear weapon arsenal that has posted propaganda vids of destroying the us with a nuke?

obv meant to say "don't die".

i see.

i'm thinking KJU has all the facts/wants all the facts. unlike potus. KJU is also interested in the world and reads books. unlike potus.

No fire and fury talk, probably getting further in cooperation with China and including European allies in the process. That Robert Jeffress guy would probably be condemning her even considering using force. Instead of being at like an 8/10 on a scale from everything's fine to GG West Coast, we'd be at like a 6.

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Trump's leathery countenance looks like it has withstood a nuclear blast.

Trump looking pretty THICCC here.

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