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2016 Presidential Election Thread: TRUMP vs. Hillary SMACKDOWN

View Poll Results: The 45th President of the United States of America will be

Hillary

332 46.63%

TRUMP

190 26.69%

In to watch it burn

161 22.61%

Bastard

73 10.25%

im tryin to tell you about ****in my wife in the *** and youre asking me these personal questions

57 8.01%

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06-10-2016 , 12:07 AM

#5801

uDevil

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kickabuck

There's nothing incredible about stating- or frothing if you like- that Elizabeth Warren is not Native American, distant relatives with high cheekbones and family lore not withstanding. Pretty apparent she beefed up her resume a bit at a time when her potential suitors were desperate for minorities, with a 'fact' that was near impossible to check at the time, nor would anybody bother. She has no evidence, undoubtedly you would have heard it if she did. With the resources available today her lack of confirmation of Indian heritage is pretty damning, and the conventional wisdom should be she was likely dishonest for potential personal gain by claiming she was part Indian.

It is slightly incredible that it's necessary to insult Native Americans in the process of questioning Warren's heritage.

06-10-2016 , 12:41 AM

#5802

TalkingDonkey

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waiting for trump to tell Warren to smoke a peace pipe over Twitter

06-10-2016 , 12:55 AM

#5803

microbet

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Quote:

Originally Posted by uDevil

I worked in construction for a time. It was common to have contractors not pay on time, and occasionally disappear and not pay at all. Equipment gets stolen. People don't show up when they say they will. They use substandard materials. They do shoddy work. People with integrity get taken advantage of. In that environment, you might have to hold back payment or threaten not to complete a job to get what you are owed. But not paying just because you can get away with it is just plain theft. It's a tough business, but there are plenty of people who maintain a good reputation. Trump's excuses for not paying are lame. He is disgusting.

I didn't follow the story, but is Trump a contractor? (not sure if that's what you're saying) He's a developer and he hires contractors I think. I'm a contractor and I can tell you if a customer wants to be a dick it's pretty easy. At the end of the project they often owe you a lot of money and have you by the balls.

06-10-2016 , 01:02 AM

#5804

suzzer99

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Quote:

Originally Posted by uDevil

I know someone who worked for the Osbournes back when they had their huge hit reality show. It was basically the same thing. Sharon was a shopaholic who would order stuff like a $12k chair for the closet (to sit on when putting on your shoes) or $30k worth of drapes for the bathroom window. Then when the bill came she'd freak out and demand a full audit, refuse to pay, and make everyone's life hell.

06-10-2016 , 01:22 AM

#5805

DrawNone

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Hillary's from the PairTheBoard school of internet posting.

bottom tweet is pretty good.

-DN

06-10-2016 , 02:07 AM

#5806

Kukraprout

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Signed tweets are from her, unsigned tweets are from her staff. PairTheBoard uses the same system.

A big reason why Trump's twitter is amazing is that you can be pretty sure that he doesnt let staffers handle his account, and that every stupid tweet was typed by his weird little hands.

06-10-2016 , 02:57 AM

#5807

DrawNone

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kukraprout

Signed tweets are from her, unsigned tweets are from her staff. PairTheBoard uses the same system.

A big reason why Trump's twitter is amazing is that you can be pretty sure that he doesnt let staffers handle his account, and that every stupid tweet was typed by his weird little hands.]

exactly, that's what make celebrity twitter so special. when Prince retweeted an amateur's YouTube video it changed that artist's life. no caption on the tweet, she was interviewed for CNN's death special.

that's also the reason Hillary's account signing tweets is lol. I understand why they need to do it. it's "I hear twitter is big now, make sure we have someone on that Huma" as opposed to the real-ish picture of TRUMP being a savage on the internet from his personal phone.

"Hillary" fired a serious shot at TRUMP this afternoon, probably by accident, and TRUMP and reincee personally clowned on her back. I doubt Hillaryland meant to start an internet flame war on Obama Warren endorsement day.

06-10-2016 , 03:14 AM

#5808

uDevil

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Quote:

Originally Posted by microbet

There are levels of contractors, no? I worked for a small subcontactor and we worked for general contractors (who were building luxury homes). In turn, we sometimes hired other subcontractors. Trump calls himself a builder, says he is (or was) in the construction business. Developer is a more accurate description. Anyway he is at the top of the food chain, ideally positioned to screw as many people as possible, and he seems to take full advantage.

When I see my old boss, it's a shock. He was as smart and strong and determined a person as I've known, but he has physically broken down. He went bankrupt and lost almost everything when housing crashed. When I worked for him there were multiple times he was close to not being able to pay his own workers because of general contractors who flaked out on payments. Sometimes he worked hundred hour weeks. It's a hell of a way to make a living.

06-10-2016 , 05:05 AM

#5809

w00t

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06-10-2016 , 05:12 AM

#5810

Loki

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kickabuck

With the resources available today her lack of confirmation of Indian heritage is pretty damning, and the conventional wisdom should be she was likely dishonest for potential personal gain by claiming she was part Indian.

She claimed her family is from India?

06-10-2016 , 07:24 AM

#5811

Trolly McTrollson

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DrawNone

bottom tweet is pretty good.

-DN

06-10-2016 , 07:43 AM

#5812

campfirewest

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Quote:

Originally Posted by uDevil

When I see my old boss, it's a shock. He was as smart and strong and determined a person as I've known, but he has physically broken down. He went bankrupt and lost almost everything when housing crashed. When I worked for him there were multiple times he was close to not being able to pay his own workers because of general contractors who flaked out on payments. Sometimes he worked hundred hour weeks. It's a hell of a way to make a living.

I'm not super familiar with the business but I had an uncle who was a contractor and went busto in the 80's when a general contractor basically just decided not to pay him.

06-10-2016 , 08:36 AM

#5813

miajag

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06-10-2016 , 09:01 AM

#5814

w00t

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Warren will leave Trump wheeping, he is too thin skinned to take much heat.

06-10-2016 , 09:13 AM

#5815

+rep_lol

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i love seeing women throw zingers at rich, powerful, egotistically frail beta-men, it always provokes the most pathetic and desperate of responses

this election is, will be, and always has been soooo ez game

lol @ anybody who bet a dime on a real-life incompetent such as donald trump

06-10-2016 , 10:48 AM

#5816

awval999

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Some post June 8 polls have been released.

Pretty much a fantastic week for HRC. She has mathematically clinched the DNC nomination, gotten the endorsements of Warren and Obama and TRUMP has had for all intents and purposes a bad week with the Trump U / Mexican Judge comments.

Friday, June 10
Race/Topic (Click to Sort) Poll Results Spread
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton FOX News Clinton 42, Trump 39 Clinton +3
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson FOX News Clinton 39, Trump 36, Johnson 12 Clinton +3

Thursday, June 9
Race/Topic (Click to Sort) Poll Results Spread
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton Rasmussen Reports Clinton 42, Trump 38 Clinton +4
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton Reuters/Ipsos Clinton 42, Trump 34 Clinton +8

However, what should give HRC pause is her, lackluster, polling numbers in PA and FL from PPP. In the end, it's the swing states and electoral votes that matter.

Wednesday, June 8
Race/Topic (Click to Sort) Poll Results Spread
Pennsylvania: Trump vs. Clinton PPP (D) Clinton 44, Trump 44 Tie
Pennsylvania: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein PPP (D) Clinton 41, Trump 40, Johnson 6, Stein 3 Clinton +1

Tuesday, June 7
Race/Topic (Click to Sort) Poll Results Spread
Florida: Trump vs. Clinton PPP (D) Clinton 44, Trump 45 Trump +1
Florida: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein PPP (D) Trump 41, Clinton 40, Johnson 4, Stein 2 Trump +1

If you read into PPP's explanation; however, they are quick to say that Trump's lead is due to Bernie supporters not backing HRC.

In a final wrap up of current polls, I keep seeing the large "undecided" margin. The aggregate sum of the Trump+Clinton vote is in the low/mid 80's. Will the #NeverTrumpers come home? Will the BernieBros come home?

If the election was held today (it's not, I know) I would honestly expect a repeat of the 2012 electoral map.

06-10-2016 , 11:27 AM

#5817

Dids

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rugby

Upon reflection. Some combination of

1. the success of the fairly mediocre "delete your account" tweet.
2. Hillary being clueless.
3. All the millenials in the hillary camp being policy geeks with poor social skills and
4. Trying way too hard.

I predict that Hillarys twitter is going to get super awkward very quickly.

This seems like a a lot of bad mind reading, terrible assumptions and bad generalizations.

06-10-2016 , 11:30 AM

#5818

rtd353

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I'm not going to read through the rest of the comments, but why would Hillary or anyone from her camp think it's a good idea to engage in a Twitter fight with trump? Like, even if you win the fight, you still lose. There are no good outcomes

06-10-2016 , 11:30 AM

#5819

otatop

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Don King once stomped a man to death for owing him $600, so this endorsement makes total sense.

06-10-2016 , 11:36 AM

#5820

Dids

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rtd353

There is no other way to read the general response to yesterday's tweet as anything other than a good outcome for Hillary.

06-10-2016 , 11:38 AM

#5821

BAIDS

2013 FA Cup winner

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Quote:

King's career highlights include, among multiple other enterprises, promoting "The Rumble in the Jungle" and the "Thrilla in Manila". King has promoted some of the most prominent names in boxing, including Muhammad Ali, Joe Frazier, George Foreman, Larry Holmes, Mike Tyson, Evander Holyfield, Julio César Chávez, Ricardo Mayorga, Andrew Golota, Bernard Hopkins, Félix Trinidad, Roy Jones, Jr. and Marco Antonio Barrera. Almost all of them sued him for defrauding them; King settled most lawsuits for six- to eight-digit pay-offs while managing to avoid a conviction of felony fraud or time in jail.

con artists unite

06-10-2016 , 11:42 AM

#5822

TrollyWantACracker

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Quote:

Originally Posted by otatop

Don King once stomped a man to death for owing him $600, so this endorsement makes total sense.

That is very misleading. The killing took place in 1966, do it is closer to $4000 in today's money.

06-10-2016 , 11:44 AM

#5823

Mayo

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That's nothing. Buford Tannen once shot a respected blacksmith over a matter of 80 dollars.

06-10-2016 , 11:45 AM

#5824

chymechowder

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Granted, quid pro quo's are nearly impossible to prove. But can any reasonable person say that this wasn't one?

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/clint...ry?id=39710624

Quote:

Newly released State Department emails help reveal how a major Clinton Foundation donor was placed on a sensitive government intelligence advisory board even though he had no obvious experience in the field, a decision that appeared to baffle the department’s professional staff.

The emails further reveal how, after inquiries from ABC News, the Clinton staff sought to “protect the name” of the Secretary, “stall” the ABC News reporter and ultimately accept the resignation of the donor just two days later.

A prolific fundraiser for Democratic candidates and contributor to the Clinton Foundation, who later traveled with Bill Clinton on a trip to Africa, Rajiv K. Fernando’s only known qualification for a seat on the International Security Advisory Board (ISAB) was his technological know-how. The Chicago securities trader, who specialized in electronic investing, sat alongside an august collection of nuclear scientists, former cabinet secretaries and members of Congress to advise Hillary Clinton on the use of tactical nuclear weapons and on other crucial arms control issues.

“We had no idea who he was,” one board member told ABC News.

06-10-2016 , 11:48 AM

#5825

Dids

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Trump and King occupy the same space of guys that never got nearly enough credit for being outright criminal scumbags and got weirdly worshiped by some ****lords because they were good at self-promotion.

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