that's an optimistic take. cubs winning the world series tells me the apocalypse is near.

It's pretty simple.

People think,

Hillary = more of the same or worse of the same. 0% upside

Trump = the alternative

Every which way in America, the middle & lower class gets ****ed, and Hillary is in bed with every institution responsible for this, so I am not surprised in the slightest.

Trump like literally is the institution responsible for this

Trump to black people...

What do you have to lose?

republicans have completely forgotten about george w bush and imagine we've been under 30 years of democrat dominance

Lol at 0% upside. Literally everything she has proposed is a net positive.

Literally everything . I dunno man, I think that proposed Syrian no fly zone could turn out to be a net negative!

I think that's where the stuff about Obama's speeches on black parenting (in situations where he would never say the same thing to a white audience, on exactly the same subject) comes in - perhaps it's that, for black issues, we're too willing to sacrifice them to the far-right capitalist filters, whereas for white people there's a consensus that you don't do that cause, hey, white people have a problem here, let's band together and do what we can to fix this!

Like, the heroin epidemic among white people is viewed at large as a serious medical problem, and while I was too young to be politically aware when the crack epidemic was a thing I would guess that society probably thought about that issue a little differently?

The other thing I'd say about your bolded sentence is that it misses the mark a little bit with the two issues she talks about that Democrats have failed to deal with - housing and school segregation. That's not "compromising" with the other side and giving into far-right capitalist interests, that's NIMBY politics.

How so?

That's just IMO the perception among Trump supporters I've talked to.

I don't support Trump. I did, admittedly, because I believed genuinely that his displayed stupidity throughout the primaries was an act to win the nomination. But when the debates started, it become clear his antics weren't just an act, he really is a clueless idiot and will make horrible policy decisions. I hate Hillary too, but I think she is capable of keeping the country afloat for four years until, hopefully, a better alternative comes along.

I also have ltos of money riding on her

From the annals of good news: Quinnipiac polls out today had Clinton leading by 22 among early voters in NC, compared to +18 for Obama in 2012. Also had her +26 in Ohio, not sure what the comparison is there.

Interviews with 9 Republican women who still support Trump, and one who says she switched to Hillary and says the Access Hollywood tape was basically the final straw.

http://nymag.com/thecut/2016/11/9-wo...l?mid=atlantic

Cliffs: abortion is a big deal, locker room talk is no big deal (who doesn't like a good groping?!?), and they REALLY don't like Hillary (or Bill).

Fox-sphere going ham on possible indictment over an FBI probe into the Clinton Foundation, Bret Baier staking his hair on it.

So, you were on the Trump wagon for the primaries, but you hope someone better is coming?

To have a no-fly zone you have to take out all of the air defense, many of which are located in populated areas.

So our missiles, even if they are standoff missiles so we’re not putting our pilots at risk, you’re going to kill a lot of Syrians.

Plus you do not want a missile hitting a chemical stockpile.

The lower class is voting for Hillary.

Within 3 months of voting for Obama this dude thought he deserved a ****ing medal and was so angry he didn't get it

For the lower & middle class? How so?

Correct me if I'm wrong but she has proposed the following: expansion of ACA (healthcare premiums are skyrocketing), expansion of H1B's (artificially reduces wages and replace tech workers), remove FICA cap on $250k HOUSEHOLDS (in most suburban & cities, $250k household is barely upper-middle class; FICA is 7.5% per person. marginal tax rate likely exceed 50%), path to citizenship for illegal immigrants (10mln in the country), free tuition (increased taxes).

Can't think of much else off the top of my head atm. I'm not too booked up on her policies but she appears to support these things.

Reuters/Ipsos tracker C+6, unchanged post-Comey

Just the minorities and women, no?

Hi, American tech worker here, and we really really want expansion of H1Bs

Oh man I stopped reading to make my previous post. Give me a moment...

BAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH

WAAF

That said I've been jittery enough to donate another 500 the past week, including 250 today.