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2016 Presidential Election Thread: TRUMP vs. Hillary SMACKDOWN 2016 Presidential Election Thread: TRUMP vs. Hillary SMACKDOWN
View Poll Results: The 45th President of the United States of America will be
Hillary
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TRUMP
190 26.69%
In to watch it burn
161 22.61%
Bastard
73 10.25%
im tryin to tell you about ****in my wife in the *** and youre asking me these personal questions
57 8.01%

10-29-2016 , 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by HastenDan
MrWookie,

In your world, what happened and why to the 1000 work-related emails between Clinton and Patreus that were not turned over to the State department?
I'm unaware of this #tcot chain letter scandal, please elaborate in between your BLM marches and Pride parties.


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Do you believe that the 30,000+ emails that were deleted and fully wiped
You mean "acid washed", right?

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as to be unrecoverable by Clinton representatives were simply a bunch of personal emails about yoga classes and Chelsea's wedding as claimed? Do you believe that some work related emails may have been intentionally deleted among that group of emails?
They've explained that they used a keyword search method to find all work-related emails. But lol Danny, man, look at how you're phrasing these questions. There's a Bernie voter way of attacking Clinton over the emails(Trolly's posts in this forum, that you definitely already read, would be an example) and then there's the Hannity listener, Trump voter way you're doing it.

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How do you feel about Clinton and her associates lying repeatedly to the American public over multiple things related to how she managed her email and various devices?

And finally, do you believe that Obama was unaware that Clinton was using a private, non government server as he initially claimed, or do you think he was lying to the public in that regard?
Huh so weird that last question takes a hard turn to being against OBAMA. I thought super progressive Danny here was just motivated out of left wing principle to hate HRC and her supporters, but in an UNBELIEVABLE SURPRISE it turns out he has some resentment about that first black President.
10-29-2016 , 11:23 AM
One thing this election may do: elevate Ohio to Florida levels of derision. And deservedly so. **** Ohio.

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10-29-2016 , 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by HastenDan
This has been overshadowed by ComeyGATE, but I would be interested in hearing people's thoughts on Clinton's suggestion that Palestinian elections should have been rigged?

“I do not think we should have pushed for an election in the Palestinian territories. I think that was a big mistake. And if we were going to push for an election, then we should have made sure that we did something to determine who was going to win.”

- Hillary Clinton

Can one of you please Correct The Record on this one for me?
Are you under the impression that the US does not regularity meddle in the elections, or other government transitions, of sovereign nations? If so, you are galactically naive. This is common practice, which is why I laugh every time Clinton wants to hit the fainting couch over Russia's attempt to mess with this election.
10-29-2016 , 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Gizmo
Disclosure: Donald Trump is the father-in-law of Jared Kushner, publisher of Observer Media.


As is often the case with Hillary, my guess is that there is a lot more to her quote than where the published quote ends. Kushner is certainly pushing a specific narrative. And the first part of that quote exists "I do not think we should have pushed for an election". She would have preferred to stay out of it completely.
Uh, duh? She is a moderate neo con. American Foreign Policy since WWII=Force regimes down the throats of peoples inhabiting areas important to our perceived self interest, failing that, conduct covert operations to influence the democratic process of sovereign states, and insure regimes to our liking.

I mean really, I know T supporters aren't exactly supposed to be educated, but aren't some of them vaguely familiar with how we have handled Foreign Policy for the last seventy years?
10-29-2016 , 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Clovis8
Sorry that question was aimed generally, not at you. I have been looking and can't find any defence of the length of your elections. I'm curious to read one.
i mean i have to totally agree here, it's unnecessary and so costly that the system and the candidates will inherently favor big money interests (somebody has to fund all that campaigning)
10-29-2016 , 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by seattlelou
"Attorney General objected to FBIs letter" is a banner on CNN.
Trump voters ****ing GIDDY about this nothingburger story totes going to bring down the Obama and Clinton criminal conspiracies are setting themselves up for Math You Do As a Republican 2.0
10-29-2016 , 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Clovis8
Are you under the impression that the US does not regularity meddle in the elections, or other government transitions, of sovereign nations? If so, you are galactically naive. This is common practice, which is why I laugh every time Clinton wants to hit the fainting couch over Russia's attempt to mess with this election.
We aren't fainting over Russia's attempt. We are deeply concerned that the Republican nominee and a huge segment of his political base has embraced and or been tricked by their attempt.
10-29-2016 , 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Clovis8
Are you under the impression that the US does not regularity meddle in the elections, or other government transitions, of sovereign nations? If so, you are galactically naive. This is common practice, which is why I laugh every time Clinton wants to hit the fainting couch over Russia's attempt to mess with this election.
Pretty well versed in the Allende coup, so I can feel pretty content in my knowledge of modern US foreign policy
10-29-2016 , 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by SqredII
Are any of my fellow Clinton supporters worried that James Comey, who most Democrats agreed acted in a thorough and fair manner, until yesterday at least, has been made aware of something so egregious that he is willing to go against Federal Law Enforcement and Justice Department protocol so close to election day?



He is a straight shooter and "conservative" (cautious) in the best sense of the word. Given his reputation and history, I doubt he would take such a dangerous step without a very good reason. I think he is getting ahead of a bombshell to protect against a hit to his integrity, and it worries me.



It is imperative that Trump loses, I truly believe there is nothing that could come out that would be more dangerous to the future of our Republic than a Trump win. I wish he was right and I could vote ten times for HRC.

You would hope he didn't take this step as a pure CYA exercise and at least thought there was potential for a criminal charge to come from this. He might be legally boxed given his testimony to Congress. I do believe he should tell us if this is more of the same or something more serious.
10-29-2016 , 11:30 AM
The US strategy in 2006 was terrible. We insisted on elections then immediately applied sanctions because we didn't like the winner.

It's not surprising Hamas won. The incumbents were extremely corrupt and not interested in much else. Hamas did terrorism, humanitarian programs, and offered the possibility of less corruption -- all popular.

Elections and sanctions empowered Hamas and took the peace process from damaged to dead.

Given the elections, I would have preferred to treat Hamas like a government. Let them worry about building. The immediate attack allowed then to escape accountability from their people.
10-29-2016 , 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
Trump voters ****ing GIDDY about this nothingburger story totes going to bring down the Obama and Clinton criminal conspiracies are setting themselves up for Math You Do As a Republican 2.0
Even you should be above sounding like this big of a 'slappy' when you are Correcting the Record.

Good ol 'nothingburger', a favorite lame phrase used by Hillary apologists

At least try man.
10-29-2016 , 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by HastenDan
Even you should be above sounding like this big of a 'slappy' when you are Correcting the Record.

Good ol 'nothingburger', a favorite lame phrase used by Hillary apologists

At least try man.
No u?
10-29-2016 , 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by HastenDan
Pretty well versed in the Allende coup, so I can feel pretty content in my knowledge of modern US foreign policy
Then explain why the state department doing what's it's done for decades is a big deal for Clinton?
10-29-2016 , 11:36 AM
For the record, the publisher of the story Dan is bringing up re:Palestine is Jarod kushner. Who is ivanka's husband and was the mastermind behind "bring bills accusers to the second debate".
10-29-2016 , 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Clovis8
Then explain why the state department doing what's it's done for decades is a big deal for Clinton?
It's not really a big deal for anyone who is a realist. But there is a large progressive segment of the Democratic Party that likes to think that the United States should not meddle in the governing and electoral process of sovereign states, especially in Third World countries, simply out of economic and security self interests. It's a morality thing for them.

Those people are naive at best, but they exist, and this kind of stuff would have been a bigger issue in a Democratic primary than a general election. For Hillary Republicans like me, it actually makes her more attractive as a candidate.
10-29-2016 , 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by HastenDan
This has been overshadowed by ComeyGATE, but I would be interested in hearing people's thoughts on Clinton's suggestion that Palestinian elections should have been rigged?

“I do not think we should have pushed for an election in the Palestinian territories. I think that was a big mistake. And if we were going to push for an election, then we should have made sure that we did something to determine who was going to win.”

- Hillary Clinton

Can one of you please Correct The Record on this one for me?
did some Googling on this for you

in March 2005 the Palestinian Cairo Declaration decided among other things there'd be an election in 2006 to determine Palestine's legislature, the last election having been in 1996. The USA supported the 2006 election:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palest...election,_2006
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The United States had spent $2.3 million in USAID on support for the Palestinian elections, allegedly designed to bolster the image of President Abbas and his Fatah party. USAID’s Offices used discretionary spending accounts for various projects, including tree planting, schoolroom additions, a soccer tournament, street cleaning, and computers at community centers. USAID removed its usual branding requirement on its sponsored activities. The US was charged with trying to influence the outcome of the election.
the result of this election was
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...012600372.html
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... In Wednesday's voting, Hamas claimed 76 of the 132 parliamentary seats, giving the party at war with Israel the right to form the next cabinet under the Palestinian Authority's president, Mahmoud Abbas, the leader of Fatah. [...]

The election results stunned U.S. and Israeli officials, who have repeatedly stated that they would not work with a Palestinian Authority that included Hamas, which both countries and the European Union have designated as a terrorist organization. In Washington, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said that a party could not "have one foot in politics and the other in terror. Our position on Hamas has therefore not changed."
I think Hillary's quote is about the futility of pushing for these elections without having "determined" (accurately forecast) it would be against American interests
10-29-2016 , 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Dude, you haven't posted any of your own thoughts for us to Correct.
Interesting that he was way less interested in YOUR question about what Hillary did wrong but he sure does have a prepackaged JAQing off session queued up and ready to go.

Right down to the typical conspiracy theorist phrasing of asking every question in a leading manner, "what are your thoughts on..." **** **** like that.

In your world, what happened and why to WTC 7?

How do you feel about the Phoenix Memo and the wargames? And so forth.


The goal of that is, as always, to get the damn race traitor libtards to admit that IkesenDan is too a smart boy. A good and smart boy! And the libtards and their libtard race traitor politicians are NOT good and smart.
10-29-2016 , 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by HastenDan
This is still coming from an FBI interview of one employee. Could be right. Who knows?
10-29-2016 , 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by LFS
One thing this election may do: elevate Ohio to Florida levels of derision. And deservedly so. **** Ohio.

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Who won? Be gas if it was Hillsboro, though of course lol HS sportsball.
10-29-2016 , 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by problemeliminator
some countries prohibit electioneering or campaigning X number of days before an election.
Yeah, I just don't see that as a good thing overall. It's important as a matter of freedom that people can campaign when and how they want. If early campaigning (like massive hidden campaign donations) rose to the level that it not only threatened, but actually and severely assaulted the democratic process, then it could be worth looking at restricting the freedom of speech here, but I don't think it's even close. And if some lesser known candidate or party needs to get out really early to have any chance, then they should be able to do so.

(I know you were just stating a fact - not making an argument about it)
10-29-2016 , 11:49 AM
Guys it's totally okay for Russia to interfere in our elections because we did it to someone else. They should drop a couple of nukes on us too in honor of Yamamato. Fair is fair.
10-29-2016 , 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by SqredII
Are any of my fellow Clinton supporters worried that James Comey, who most Democrats agreed acted in a thorough and fair manner, until yesterday at least, has been made aware of something so egregious that he is willing to go against Federal Law Enforcement and Justice Department protocol so close to election day?

He is a straight shooter and "conservative" (cautious) in the best sense of the word. Given his reputation and history, I doubt he would take such a dangerous step without a very good reason. I think he is getting ahead of a bombshell to protect against a hit to his integrity, and it worries me.

It is imperative that Trump loses, I truly believe there is nothing that could come out that would be more dangerous to the future of our Republic than a Trump win. I wish he was right and I could vote ten times for HRC.
Oh, don't worry, there are many libs who will get to vote for Killary 10 times, so you're gonna be ok. You've also made a great point, the other shoe is about to drop.
10-29-2016 , 11:51 AM
It's so weird how it's just IMPOSSIBLE for conservatives to even figure out what the scandalous thing is, because lol they need their 10 year olds who are just so good with computers to ****ing set up autopay.

We've tried it being that it was in a closet. We've tried that it was full of classified information.

My guess is that really attacking her on either of those was too complicated for the senile brain of Mr. Trump, so now the NEW NEW thing is that she deleted personal emails. What? If she didn't delete them, she would have no obligation to turn them over. What's the scandal here again?
10-29-2016 , 11:57 AM
I've only voted for Hillary twice so far. Kind of slacking this year.
10-29-2016 , 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Gizmo
Disclosure: Donald Trump is the father-in-law of Jared Kushner, publisher of Observer Media.


As is often the case with Hillary, my guess is that there is a lot more to her quote than where the published quote ends. Kushner is certainly pushing a specific narrative. And the first part of that quote exists "I do not think we should have pushed for an election". She would have preferred to stay out of it completely.
Bill Clinton spent his entire presidency from the 1993 Oslo Accords to the 2000 Camp David summit trying to get to those elections in Palestine.

      
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