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2016 Presidential Election Thread: TRUMP vs. Hillary SMACKDOWN 2016 Presidential Election Thread: TRUMP vs. Hillary SMACKDOWN
View Poll Results: The 45th President of the United States of America will be
Hillary
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TRUMP
190 26.69%
In to watch it burn
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Bastard
73 10.25%
im tryin to tell you about ****in my wife in the *** and youre asking me these personal questions
57 8.01%

10-18-2016 , 05:24 PM
Pilots on food stamps

http://blogs.wsj.com/corporate-intel...n-food-stamps/

$100k educational fees to make <$30k a year
10-18-2016 , 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
Wtf is this ****? People in inner-cities don't make 3.0 GPAs? Free tuition would absolutely benefit kids of lower middle class and working poor families the most - many of which are in the inner-city.
Yeah, buts its gonna help wealthier people even more, just like vouchers.
10-18-2016 , 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by King_of_NYC
I'm at a college in one of the poorest districts in the country and our students are simultaneously some of the most underprepared for college (there is data to back up this claim) and some of the most deserving for the opportunity.

Any attempt to tie college tuition assistance to academics would only hurt those in most need. The system has failed these kids long before the register for a college class. Any performace-based system would only widen the gap, and completely miss the point, imo
Well there's a certain level below which they probably shouldn't be in a 4-year college because they are just in too far over their heads. Direct any of those kids who want to learn and improve to community college or free remedial reading programs or whatever they need (which I'm sure a lot is already available).

Btw the kids at the very bottom of the ladder right now get a lot of opportunities when it comes to financial aid and preferential admissions. But as you describe, them not being prepared or ready is a very real problem. Like I said, I see free tuition as helping lower class and working poor kids more than anyone.
10-18-2016 , 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by King_of_NYC
Any attempt to tie college tuition assistance to academics would only hurt those in most need. The system has failed these kids long before the register for a college class. Any performace-based system would only widen the gap, and completely miss the point, imo
Families who are not poor will also have access to better schools, can afford tutors and SAT preparation. Therefore using high school GPAs and/or SAT test scores for free public college tuition eligibility will once again help the poorest the least.

Those who have received a sub-par high school education will also be the ones most likely to struggle in college. This should be kept in mind when advocating for maintaining a high GPA while in college to keep eligible.

At some point though there has to be a way for the state to give those resources to a more promising student instead. Figuring out the exact parameters won't be easy.
10-18-2016 , 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Wheel Gunner
Kamala Harris decided to arrest the owners/operators of an alternative paper for pimping because they had ads that "wink, wink" advertised consensual sex between adults for money. She lost my vote.
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Originally Posted by microbet
I'm not in love with Kamala and wasn't going to vote for her mostly because she was a prosecutor, but her story anyway is that Backpage was just listings for prostitutes, including children.

Are you against that because you:

A) Don't believe it at all

B) Don't believe the part about children and think prostitution should be legal for adults

C) Think that whether not prostitution should be legal, it should be legal to publish advertisements for prostitutes

but still, she's Atty General. Do you think she shouldn't enforce this law? or do you think nothing illegal was going on?
After reading this article I'm pretty ok with Backpage getting shut down.

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Documents filed in the case included interviews with children who said they took out ads on Backpage.com after they were forced into prostitution.

A 15-year-old girl identified as E.S., who said she was a forced into prostitution when she was 13, said Backpage “profits off of women and men,” whether they want to earn money through prostitution or are forced into it.

“I mean really, coming from someone my age, there is too much access, like it’s too easy for people get on it and post an ad,” she said in court papers.

A congressional investigation this year found that the website changed some of its adult classifieds to conceal the fact that the advertisements were for sex acts with minors. Mr. Ferrer was subpoenaed by a Senate subcommittee last fall to answer questions about reported child sex-trafficking ads, but he did not show up.
10-18-2016 , 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by OmgGlutten!
In other words, huge subsidy for white people. Not a whole lotta help for people in the inner city.

This is like the all lives matter fire gif

Fix education ... By making it free for people with 3.0 gpas
Wait, wat?
10-18-2016 , 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by dessin d'enfant
Yeah, buts its gonna help wealthier people even more, just like vouchers.
Well from a middle class kid's POV it's still huge to not be in debt. A rich kid just has the govt paying for their education instead of their parents, so it wouldn't feel much different to them. But I'm ok with giving rich parents a break, given this whole thing is going to be funded by tax dollars. Win/win for everyone.

Rich people seem to be against it though because they like giving their kids that huge leg up in life. Which I get, they worked hard for it. But imo it's time to treat college or trade school like K-12, except optional.

Also no one is saying free tuition to elite private schools. Rich people can still have that.
10-18-2016 , 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by simplicitus
Clinton leads Trump by 48 points among millennials

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/...ng-millennials

(Looks like getting Al Gore out on the trail did the trick. )
Reminder that the GOP is now so far underwater with every single group mentioned in the 2012 autopsy that it is literally impossible for them to get worse and a 30-70 result with 18-34 year olds in four years will actually be an improvement
10-18-2016 , 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by reztes757
I can almost guarantee they will figure out a way to make certain colleges start accepting people they never would have before if this passes.
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Originally Posted by reztes757
I would just hate to see our colleges turn into what our public school system has become
Guys, guys. Y'all know what he means. Why are you engaging him about the mechanics of college admissions?
10-18-2016 , 05:46 PM
Shifty and D'Smoov gonna get in on some of that sweet sweet free tuition action! Impregnating hot white girls right and left. Gonna turn that sorority house into a maternity ward. Awwwww yeeeeeahhhh.
10-18-2016 , 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by simplicitus
One time! I'm 95% sure that Trump doesn't do email, both because he's involved in tons of litigation and discovery would kill him and because he's an idiot who probably couldn't figure out the whole email thing.
His comments on Hillary's emails pretty much seal the deal on him only vaguely being aware of how it works.
10-18-2016 , 05:49 PM
I honestly don't think he realizes emails and cyber security are related things. He blew the biggest slow-pitch softball of all time.
10-18-2016 , 05:50 PM
Right-wing America is literally the only culture in the world that is skeptical of the value of an educated populace.
10-18-2016 , 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
Yep. They usually don't afaik, and if they do you will likely never know about it. But they sure as hell can.
That's wild, had no idea.

Link to anything I can read on this?
10-18-2016 , 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
After reading this article I'm pretty ok with Backpage getting shut down.
If they are allowing child/human trafficking they should be shut down.

That said, backpage is basically like craigslist only they still do what craigslist stopped doing a while ago.

The indy newspaper in Orlando stopped letting people air wink wink prostitute ads a few years ago, not sure if it was forced to or if it did it of its own volition, but the paper's circulation went into the toilet since then and I'm surprised it even publishes now. It's a good paper, too.
10-18-2016 , 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by DudeImBetter
That's wild, had no idea.

Link to anything I can read on this?
http://www.nolo.com/legal-encycloped...ead-30088.html
10-18-2016 , 05:55 PM
Chris Cillizza is ****ing incredible
10-18-2016 , 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by DudeImBetter
That's wild, had no idea.

Link to anything I can read on this?
Heh, don't worry they probably aren't actively monitoring you. I think they only look if they think there's something illegal going on. Although some companies might scan for negative words or phrases. Try to avoid using "kill my boss" in your emails.
10-18-2016 , 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
College or trade school is becoming absolutely necessary to hold down any kind of career in the modern economy. It's the equivalent of a high school degree 50 years ago.
I'm going to have both
10-18-2016 , 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
Programming is a very good answer. Although you will never get hired at a large company w/o a degree.
Eh? My previous job was a fortune 500, I'm currently at a very large international company, and literally 15 minutes ago got an offer from another fortune 500 I talked to last week.
10-18-2016 , 06:07 PM
Another latebreaking way 2016 is actually good all along:


That's the art critic for the New York Magazine casually dropping a five figure, escrow required prop bet challenge.
10-18-2016 , 06:10 PM
The takeaway is that the New York Magazine's art critic is smarter about prop betting than many 2p2ers. Always get an escrow when you've got a huge whale on the hook.

PS: Anyone seen awice lately?
10-18-2016 , 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
Well there's a certain level below which they probably shouldn't be in a 4-year college because they are just in too far over their heads. Direct any of those kids who want to learn and improve to community college or free remedial reading programs or whatever they need (which I'm sure a lot is already available).

Btw the kids at the very bottom of the ladder right now get a lot of opportunities when it comes to financial aid and preferential admissions. But as you describe, them not being prepared or ready is a very real problem. Like I said, I see free tuition as helping lower class and working poor kids more than anyone.
Most of the discussion around free tuition has been for community colleges. Also, community college courses - despite the rampant stereotypes - are still college classes. To not be ready applies to both forms of higher education.

You are right to point out that kids from economically disadvantaged households do have opportunities for financial aid and the like ("preferential admission" is probably taking it too far imo). The issue was whether to base access to aid on academic preparedness. This would not help kids from lower class households more.
10-18-2016 , 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
Another latebreaking way 2016 is actually good all along:


That's the art critic for the New York Magazine casually dropping a five figure, escrow required prop bet challenge.
Sorry libtard, dude has irrefutable logic Trump is ahead:



Guy's twitter feed is a Children's Treasury Of The Dumbest Things People Think.

Last edited by DVaut1; 10-18-2016 at 06:21 PM.
10-18-2016 , 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Grue
Eh? My previous job was a fortune 500, I'm currently at a very large international company, and literally 15 minutes ago got an offer from another fortune 500 I talked to last week.
We had to move heaven and earth to hire a programmer as a contractor who didn't have a degree. I guess companies can vary.

      
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