just having enough power to be dangerous doesn't make you the favorite to win a fight, stann definitely can win, i just think santiago is more likely to. i don't think stann wants anything at all to do with santiago on the ground, and i don't think he has an advantage in the striking either.

LP, I dont know how youre saying he sucked out a draw. Ridiculous.

Ruken, you may be right that gas is not a factor at all.

IBPoker, IIRC every shot he made got stuffed pretty hard. Obviously youre right that he didnt make it a wrestling match, but he did try to shoot numerous times.

edit: plz only PM me about a stream if your a 2p2 reg.

Like Nelson a lot vs Mir at + money. Mir breaks easily when he's in a competitive fight. All of his wins (except vs cro cop) were fights he just dominated from start to finish...But when he's in an actual fight, he breaks easily.

Mir has a lot more 'tools' than nelson. Better skills, is stronger, is faster...But Nelson has a massive advantage in cardio/heart/toughness...And in what I think will be a competitive fight, that will be the difference.

Like Edgar a lot vs Maynard. Simply via conditioning and relentlessness. Gray's wrestling may theoretically be better...But in a 25 minute mma match, Edgar's hustle and cardio beats maynard's pure strength. And on the feet, Edgar's diverse striking, movement, activity, and toughness beats maynards boxing.

Like Story at +180 or better and Hamill at +250 or better because they called out their opponents who happen to be household names to casual mma fans (rampage/alves both fought and won a ton of big fights in front of a lot of people)

Wanna take my action for the Hamill fight @ +250?

maynard v edgar 3 got cancelled, both fighters got injured. This PPV is looking worst and worst each day.

yeah i bet dana is freaking out right now, this is a tough spot for him.

Ya, if only they had a larger catalog of fighters

Your new way of saying "I iz fading the public"?

This card is still pretty stacked, not ordering it but Alves/ Story as #5 is pretty good.

Card is weak with none of the fights having real title implications unless you mean Rampage's huge mismatch against Hamill in Dana's pathetic attempt to set Rampage up for a title shot to sell ppv's.

How does a fighter go from fighting Evans and Machida to fighting Hamill? A one dimensional fighter who decisioned a washed up Ortiz and literally got demolished by Bones Jones.

...because he lost to Evans and thought he lost to Machida, and Hamill's on a multi-fight win streak (technically)?

without the title fight this card looks like a tuf finale fight card.

outside of edgar/maynard, story/alves was the best intriguing fight, should've been the swing bout in the first place

Rampage doesn't fight on TUF finales. Neither does Mir.

Want Rampage > Hamill @ -260, my 2600 to your 1k. Regs QTB

Can settle through poker sites/boa/TD bank/cash in montreal

Prob need MOD to Change this to UFC 130 Rampage/Hamill

I'm actually looking forward to this card./

Very curious about the Frank Mir fight...

yeah i still tihnk its a neat little card without the star value. idk about the HD PPV price, but being a degen i'll probably just order it last second anyway.

Just wanna say I had a dream last night where Mir drops Nelson with a huge left hook and Nelson just lands flat on his back and Mir finishes him with one clean punch to the unguarded face. Definitely had dreams that came perfectly true down to verbatim speech within the next couple weeks, lets see about this one.

I dreamed Penn would finish Florian with a RNC.

This time around, I see Big Country winning by tapout via BK death fart from north south.

So any chance Rampage loses here? Seems like odds are where they should be...

Whee, blew .85u on ****ty Bellator bets.

At least I ended up on the right side of a line movement for UFC130. 1u at +105 on Nelson, he's at -115 at my book now. Shoulda unloaded my roll.

why in gods name are u using that site to bet that fight? Hes still +115 at 5d and you could get him on 2p2 at +125.

In fact, you could arb that bet right now if you had money spread around according to BFO

I like Rick Story at +180

I don't really want to have 5000 sports sites, especially given how much of a pain in the ass it is to cash out. I'm waiting on my first bankwire from these guys and I had to submit it 4 times between all the rollover bull**** and the identity verification stuff before it finally went through. I'm dreading the idea of that multiplied by any more than one.

On another note, how on earth did Frank Mir get bet up to -140 on any site? He's a decent fighter but he takes a punch about as well as I do.

I'm more confused on the Struve/ Torres lines. I am probably missing something but I have plays on both.
It feels sorta dirty betting Tibau, wasn't oliviera favored to beat a guy like Miller? I guess the size is just too much?