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09-01-2013 , 09:25 PM
Pettis and mendes can both beat aldo imo
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09-01-2013 , 09:40 PM
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He didn't say anything about Mendez/Aldo?
Not that I heard, but if Aldo doesn't fight Pettis, he will presumably fight Mendes.

The presence of Mendes might even make Aldo feel like he is no worse off fighting Pettis, all things considered.

So I think we'll see it Aldo/Pettis ... in Brazil ... at 155.

There's no sense doing it at 145, because if Pettis loses it'll be weird to market him as the 155 champ who just lost at 145. But Aldo could lose and still fight at 145 as the champ and be respectable.

I don't think they'll do it a catchweight either.
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09-01-2013 , 10:05 PM
They should do it at a catchweight of 150 unless Aldo is leaving FW permanently.
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09-01-2013 , 11:20 PM
They shouldn't fight at all unless Aldo moves up permanently. Just doesn't make any logistical sense. I'm perfectly fine seeing Pettis/Grant (major violence incoming there) and Aldo/Mendes or Aldo/Lamas.
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09-02-2013 , 04:12 AM
Pettis will demolish grant inside a round imo. Hoping i can get mendes at +200 or better for the aldo rematch. Will take pettis to -200 as well i think vs grant

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09-02-2013 , 07:54 AM
From fan perspective, Aldo vs Pettis, but from logic, Aldo Mendes or Aldo lamas and Pettis grant. After that, Pettis has lots of challenges in the LW cause its stacked and a lot of up and comers who will be relevant in a year, the Russian guys, bj Penn maybe if he(I know long shot, but if Penn fights and destroys a top 10 LW, he insta becomes marketable), Melendez etc. Real loser is Benson who will have to win like 6 matches vs top 10 guys in good fashion to contend while Pettis is champ, or move up to welterweight. Also, Mendez, don't forget he might have finished 4 guys in his last 4 fights, but he fought 2 cans. Let him face a legit top 5 guy and see how he does. Hes faced bottom fighters, top 10 fighter, guida and now ge should race someone like Edgar, swanson.

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09-02-2013 , 10:21 AM
Edgar and Swanson have both repeatedly expressed interest in fighting each other if I recall correctly and that fight makes sense both ranking wise and because it should deliver.

Lamas is a new challenger to Aldo so he might jump ahead of Mendes but if that's the case he can still fight someone to stay occupied or if Pettis/Aldo is made they can set up Mendes/Lamas which would make sense if Lamas isn't injured too long in which case Mendes can have the next shot while Edgar fights Swanson
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09-02-2013 , 01:17 PM
Rather see Edgar Mendez since both lost to Aldo and BC if mendes fights cub he will just win and cub kinda goes away as a contender since he won't beat guys like mendes and Edgar. Mendes Edgar will actually be a competitive fight.
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09-02-2013 , 02:05 PM
cub actually won a round against mendes last time, but yeah i agree.
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09-02-2013 , 02:10 PM
I see Mendes KOing Edgar now, will def take that prop if fight is booked.
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09-02-2013 , 02:33 PM
Think I like Edgar over Mendes, seems like a good stylistic matchup for him.
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09-02-2013 , 02:41 PM
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I see Mendes KOing Edgar now, will def take that prop if fight is booked.
That would be impressive! Mendes is a beast, but knocking out Edgar is über beastly.

What do you think the line will be/how far would you bet it?
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09-02-2013 , 02:53 PM
i like mendes over edgar and aldo, well, maybe not at the same time.
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09-02-2013 , 02:59 PM
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That would be impressive! Mendes is a beast, but knocking out Edgar is über beastly.

What do you think the line will be/how far would you bet it?
He was +200ish tko vs guida so I'd hope +350/400 vs edgar

Would bet it from +300
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09-02-2013 , 03:16 PM
Def. lots of great matchup possiblilities for the 145-155 divisions. Should make a great 6 months to a year to decide it all.

If Grant somehow gets the shot vs. Pettis... what do you guys figure the opening Line to be?
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09-02-2013 , 05:07 PM
Pettis -350 would be my guess. I'd expect Mendes -170 or so vs Edgar.

Made my UFC plays, some great bets Wednesday IMO.

Bader/Teixeira o1.5 -140. This has to be bet of the card. Glover seemed pretty measured when he fought a similar fighter in Rampage, think we see a finish in round 3/4 here.

Jacare decision +151. I think he's better everywhere besides maybe pure wrestling than Okami. Think he outboxes to a decision here, don't see him finishing.

Benavidez KO +150
Massaranduba ITD -130
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09-02-2013 , 08:02 PM
Only bet was on Bendo, he didn't look right from the get go even though he was doing well to begin with.

Thankfully I didn't bet on Mir but my god I would love to see a rematch, those 2 (especially Barnett) looked like animals!

And who the hell slipped Rothwell an E between R2 and R3? The guy was mental, loved his post fight interview as well. Loving the Rothwell shuffle before destroying Vera.

I barely know any of the fighters on the upcoming card bar the Main and Co, but don't see them as very bettable. Might just put a unit on Teixeira for the hell of it.

Edit: Might parlay Benevidez and Teixeira
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09-03-2013 , 10:50 PM
Having trouble locating weigh in video for tomorrows fight. Anyone else having this problem or am I the only one paying attention to this card lol
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09-03-2013 , 11:04 PM
Is this next card the weakest ever?

Only 5-8 fighters who have ever fought on a main card (not sure about Natal, Jussier and I think Trinaldo has) and 11 fighters on the card I wouldn't recognise if shown a picture of them.

Okami is the only bet i'd consider as an odds play but Jacare looked really good in his last fight. Still, if it gets to +250 or so I won't be able to resist making a play. Okami dec is +280 but I mean as we saw in the Pettis/Bendo fight no one was expecting a sub so I think Okami +225 straight up might be better in case he randomly gets an unlikely finish somehow. I expect Jacare to win but I do think Okami wins a bit more than a third of the time so the price is good.

Lucas Martins looked as bad as you can look in a win by finish vs Larsewn but his opponent's 'best' win looks to be Chris Tickle who was the worst fighter on his season of TUF so -130 looks okay maybe? That said if Hernandez who I know nothing about has any wrestling at all he can decision him with proper gameplanning since Larsen was on the way to doing the same thing before the random r3 tko

So many of these guys have been fighting cans who are 4-3 and 3-2 vs other cans I just have no idea what to make of their records

There doesn't seem to be a single interesting fight on the prelims of this card, to be honest we all know Glover will run through Bader barring a fluke, Okami/Jacare will be boring unless Jacare finishes him spectacularly and Jussier is probably the most boring FLW in history but at least Benavidez should finish him. Trinaldo's fun to watch but he's fighting a nobody. I don't think i've ever cared less about a card. The sole purpose of this card seems to be to get a bunch of debuts out of the way so they can match the winners up with mid level guys and cut the losers and give Glover a win so that he can have a #1 contender fight or fight Jones if Cormier doesn't drop down assuming he beats Gustafsson and I assume they're hoping Jacare beats Okami so that they have a fresh contender to fight the Bisping/Munoz winner or Machida/Kennedy winner for the shot at Silva/Weidman after Belfort gets his shot.

Can you imagine if Okami manages to LnP Jacare then gets matched up with Machida? He's like a smaller Davis with worse striking and wrestling and less aggression.
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09-04-2013 , 12:31 AM
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Having trouble locating weigh in video for tomorrows fight. Anyone else having this problem or am I the only one paying attention to this card lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNvd8J8pWuQ
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09-04-2013 , 12:35 AM
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Okami is the only bet i'd consider as an odds play but Jacare looked really good in his last fight. Still, if it gets to +250 or so I won't be able to resist making a play. Okami dec is +280 but I mean as we saw in the Pettis/Bendo fight no one was expecting a sub so I think Okami +225 straight up might be better in case he randomly gets an unlikely finish somehow. I expect Jacare to win but I do think Okami wins a bit more than a third of the time so the price is good.
I played Jacare dec +151, but I wouldn't fault anyone for taking Okami. I do think Jacare is better everywhere though. Think you're on the right track avoiding the decision prop there, definitely a small chance Okami finishes via KO (Jacare's chin is semi-questionable, he's been rocked in more than 1 fight). Not enough of a difference for there to be much value in the prop.

Thx eater
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09-04-2013 , 12:57 AM
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Plays for UFC 164. Traveling to Philly tomorrow, will probably miss the fights and may not have time to post, so putting them up now. Good luck everybody

0.5u Bendo by UD +410 L
0.5u Bendo by decision +181 L
0.25u Mir ITD +380 L
0.25u Mendes by tko +375 W
0.5u Dustin Poirier +135 W
0.5u Poirier by decision +395 W
1u Brandon Vera -120 L
1u Tibau/Varner goes distance -155 W
0.5u Tibau by decision +245 W
0.5u Hamman/Magnus over 1.5r -120 L
1u Iaquinta/Couture under 2.5r +140 L
0.5u Iaquinta ITD +180 L
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Adding a second unit on Vera -102 L
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Another unit for me on Vera at +135. L
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Adding another half unit on Poirier +188, at 5d W
+0.13u for the card, +37.62u YTD. Hit a few long shots yet broke even, but that's what I get for backing Vera.
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09-04-2013 , 01:10 AM
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Okami is the only bet i'd consider as an odds play but Jacare looked really good in his last fight. Still, if it gets to +250 or so I won't be able to resist making a play. Okami dec is +280 but I mean as we saw in the Pettis/Bendo fight no one was expecting a sub so I think Okami +225 straight up might be better in case he randomly gets an unlikely finish somehow. I expect Jacare to win but I do think Okami wins a bit more than a third of the time so the price is good.
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I played Jacare dec +151, but I wouldn't fault anyone for taking Okami. I do think Jacare is better everywhere though. Think you're on the right track avoiding the decision prop there, definitely a small chance Okami finishes via KO (Jacare's chin is semi-questionable, he's been rocked in more than 1 fight). Not enough of a difference for there to be much value in the prop.
I'm on Okami by decision, but got two quarter units in at an average of +362. Also on Okami/Jacare goes the distance at -155, and may add more (it's currently at -145, which is quite nice imo). As of now though, I only have about 3 units on this card, I haven't done a single bit of capping.
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09-04-2013 , 02:24 AM
Dana announced Pettis' knee is not that bad. No surgery - Just 7-8 weeks of rehab.

And his next fight will be against TJ Grant. No time frame yet.

If he beats Grant, he will probably fight Aldo next.

http://www.5thround.com/153892/antho...-tj-grant-win/
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09-04-2013 , 05:06 AM
Was just thinking if dunhams three close dec losses to rda and grant and sherk had gone the other way and i think he won at least 2 of them and from memory scored all 3 for him hed be considered a top 5 lw with a fluke loss to guillard.
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