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04-10-2013 , 05:11 PM
Kelvin is nasty. Skillwise he's not up there with Uriah, but he can take him to the ground, tough enough to eat some shots to deliver them and he's a big puncher.
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04-10-2013 , 05:12 PM
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Rockhold just hasn't beaten anyone particularly good - Belfort's only losses since Pride are to Jones and Anderson and he's on TRT etc with the fight outside the US probably so age shouldnt be an issue, I mean, rockhold has been stopped by tko even if it was early in his career and Belfort has better recent wins in Bisping and Franklin compared to Jacare and Kennedy.

I really think Belfort wins over 60% of the time here and Bisping probably beats Belcher more like 70-75% imo, Belcher is seriously overrated.
Jacare is clearly better than Bisping and Franklin.
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04-10-2013 , 05:19 PM
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Kelvin is nasty. Skillwise he's not up there with Uriah, but he can take him to the ground, tough enough to eat some shots to deliver them and he's a big puncher.
this. Kelvin is a no quitter as well and I think whilst he'll prolly lose 1st round maybe, I think he might edge out r2 and r3. But it's a really scary fight just bc Uriah is so ***** skilled. Perfect timing, diversified attacks and he displayed a real nice jab versus Dylan and avoided his power punches. But I think Kelvin has the right mindset/gameplan to beat Uriah. All his fights he's pushed forward and didn't try to fight on the outside like Dylan or some fighters try to.
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04-10-2013 , 05:20 PM
why is Miesha Tate not a bigger favorite over Cat Zingano? I don't know much about Zingano.

Travis Browne -250 is

Gilbert Smith +145 could be good, but with a real camp maybe Bubba got his head on straight.

Clint Hester -150 i like.

Luke Barnatt at -124 is good.


I think money may be coming on Uriah Hall so if you want him maybe get on it now, and if you want Kelvin you can wait.
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04-10-2013 , 05:31 PM
Samman over Casey, Casey has no gas tank and not really any special standup.
Bubba over Smith, Gilbert gasses and has really only wild swings which bubba should easily avoid.
Quinlan over Dylan, Quinlan is the grinder type of fighter and I think he can out-grapple out cardio Dylan.
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04-10-2013 , 06:50 PM
Just got in a bet on Quinlan@-140. I like him over Dylan too. Wish I coulda gotten Samman under -300 when it opened.

Hester over Marunde@-170.

Barnatt has moved to US to train and has been training with Chael so tempted to pick him as well.

Uriah@-300 seems good. Wondering if I should wait for steam to come in on Uriah and bet Kelvin if he's anywhere over +400.
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04-10-2013 , 06:55 PM
Ellenberger. MacDonald. Fox 8.

Get hype.
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04-10-2013 , 06:59 PM
Wow sick fight. Should be epic. Rory's gonna be tested real hard.
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04-10-2013 , 07:00 PM
What's the point, Rory ain't even fighting GSP if he wins.
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04-10-2013 , 07:02 PM
True was just thinking I might just prefer Berger winning. Unless Hendrics wins and retains :P
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04-10-2013 , 07:38 PM
Woodley vs Shields line out. Thoughts?
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04-10-2013 , 07:43 PM
Jacare is ONLY -196 against Costa Philippou?

I snap that bet.
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04-10-2013 , 07:46 PM
Is he gonna be able to get him down though? Costa's been using a conservative striking style to stay off his back and on the feet Jacare's chin is definitely questionable.

Shields seems like he might be value against Woodley.
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04-10-2013 , 08:00 PM
Jacares wrestling is the best among the bjj elites imo. It's really good.

Jacare could easily box up Costa. Costa is NOT a true top10 middleweight.
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04-10-2013 , 08:15 PM
Love Jacare and I know all about his game, believe me, think I've watched every fight of his since he made the big shows plus his amusing fight with The Sauce. His wrestling is definitely solid, maybe even very good. But Costa's conservative striking style and wariness of being taken down plus his physical strength make it tough to get him to the mat. I wouldn't rule out Jacare outboxing either. I'm just not sure if -200 is anything to be excited about, and I'm one of the biggest Jacare fans out there.
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04-10-2013 , 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by just_mo
Ellenberger. MacDonald. Fox 8.

Get hype.
Could be fight of the year, can't wait
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04-10-2013 , 10:19 PM
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What's the point, Rory ain't even fighting GSP if he wins.
It's been said that GSP and Rory are fighting on opposite sides of they gym as of late in preparation for the chance they fight eachother.
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04-10-2013 , 10:23 PM
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Woodley vs Shields line out. Thoughts?
Sheilds is an absolute steal, he may have under preformed in his last few fights, but end of story he is one of the most talented WWs there is. If he is training hard he has potential to be top 5. This is going to be like shields vs Henderson (except shields won't get rocked)

At +145 I'm going to dump a decent amount on it.
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04-10-2013 , 10:26 PM
Woodleys wrestling is not bad though. And he sure can punch.

I guess i prefer Shields line at the moment though. If it gets to even i may go Woodley.
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04-10-2013 , 11:28 PM
Shields might be able to just outjab on the feet. That punch that KO Hieron was hideous.
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04-11-2013 , 12:26 AM
Shields should win very easily that line is lol - assuming he's the same fighter as pre layoff anyway

Rory Mac is going to destroy Ellenberger too, snap bet to -200 imo
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04-11-2013 , 12:35 AM
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Woodleys wrestling is not bad though. And he sure can punch.

I guess i prefer Shields line at the moment though. If it gets to even i may go Woodley.
Woodleys last fight was a one off, he'll end up trying to wrestle and grind again which plays into shield strengths. My gut feeling is shields at evens woodley over +125
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04-11-2013 , 12:58 AM
MacDonald better figure out how to take Ellenberger down and he better do it quick if he's gonna justify anything near -200.
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04-11-2013 , 07:59 AM
What are your guys views on T.J Grant vs. Gray Maynard. Grant's looking great since the drop in weight class. I haven't seen Maynard fight in quite some time and the last fight vs. Guida was hardly even a fight... (no fault of his own)
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04-11-2013 , 11:25 AM
Shields/Woodley o2.5r +125 at 5D.
I just went big on this, but now thinking it may be a line that they got backwards (u2.5r is -165)...or am I just waaaayyyy overvaluing the over?

Also love the Shields price just like everyone else, put 4u at +145.
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