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08-21-2012 , 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Yell Fire!
YTD: 3-5-0 (+0.26u)

8/20

Manchester United ML over Everton (1.870) L
Manchester United/Everton under 2.5 (1.917) W
YTD: 4-6-0 (-1.84u)

8/21

Borussia Monchengladbach ML over Dinamo Kiev (2.400)
FC Copenhagen/Lille OSC under 2, 2.5 (1.877)

2u on both.

4 Game Parlay all ML (30.82)
>>Borussia Monchengladbach
>>Draw - FC Copenhagen/Lille OSC
>>Basel
>>Celtic FC

1u, 5u stake in total today.
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08-21-2012 , 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by giraffeboy
West Ham to beat Villa @ 2.29 – 2U W
QPR to beat Swansea @ 2.04 – 2U L
Wigan v Chelsea: Wigan most corners @ 3.30 – 2U W
Manchester U to beat Everton @ 1.90 – 2U L
Manchester C v Southampton: MC to win both halves @ 2.29 – 2U L
1U parlay @ 68.32 L
YTD 2-4 +0.18U

For tonight:

Wolves (-1) to beat Barnsley @ 2.62 - 2U
Expect Wolves to come back at home tonight after losing away at Leeds on opening day. Wolves without Fletcher, whereas Barnsley have half the team out it seems.

Watford to beat Ipswich @ 2.20 - 2U
Watford will be high after a late comeback victory, while Ipswich were gifted an OG equalizer in their first games, overall I think Watford will win it at home.

1U double @ 5.78

Total Stake 5U
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08-21-2012 , 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by giraffeboy
Wolves (-1) to beat Barnsley @ 2.62 - 2U W
Watford to beat Ipswich @ 2.20 - 2U L
1U double @ 5.78 L
YTD 3-6 +0.42U
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08-22-2012 , 07:48 AM
2-1(+3.02u)yesterday
YTD:24-31-3(-3.24u)

My pick for today:
BATE Borisov v Hapoel Kiryat Shmona,BATE Borisov to win,2u to win 1.86u
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08-22-2012 , 10:16 AM
I agree with the BATE pick, a little more background info....

CHAMPIONS LEAGUE:

FC BATE BORISOV- HAPOEL KIRYAT SHMONA


We have been involved in BATE's last two away legs in the competition, favouring Vardar with the handicap start ( 0-0) at a time when the Belarus champions were in poor form and missing several key players , but backing them in Hungary ( W2-0) against Debreceni, when they were showing better form and had not only made two big name signings , but had their trio of promising youngsters back from the Olympics. Key points reproduced below....

Written August 7th
We do have a couple of Champions League fixtures and one involves BATE, whom we discussed recently ahead of their 0-0 draw with FK Vardar ( see below) and especially how poor they were suddenly playing domestically, home side Debreceni who made the group stage in 2009-10 were of some interest after drawing 1-1 in Borisov. But after watching the highlights, I am not so sure, offensively BATE looked significantly better and since the match in Skopje have signed Belarusian internationals Aleksandr Hleb and Raman Vasilyuk. Both played some part in the first leg, around 90 minutes between the hugely experienced pair and now the players who have been in London, will also return. So we can expect a big improvement in BATE in the next couple of weeks. Given that the hosts would snatch your arm off for 0-0, I can see some value in the away side at level ball at odds against. BATE level ball 2.11 asian line.


Written July 25th
From a betting perspective, tonight's matches hold little interest, I understand that BATE are going through a tough time at present, they needed two injury time goals to turn the first leg around and take an advantage of any sort to Macedonia for the return leg with FK Vardar in Skopje. The visitors are far more experienced at this level and have twice made it through to the group stage, last season and in 2008-09, when they were a pretty good team. They have certainly regressed a little since then and by their normal standards are in freefall ! They lead their domestic league by three points with a game in hand, but their lead is normally double figures and they have collected just two points from their last three league starts. They will sorely miss midfielders Renan Bressan ( 15 starts-4 goals- 3 assists) and Dmitri Baga ( 15-5-4), plus defender Denis Polyakov ( 13 starts), all of whom are in action at the Olympics and word is that Vardar and their supporters are really up for this one. The match is a 33,000 sell out, the atmosphere will be white hot and odds look on the skinny side for the visitors, who do not need to win, but I know very little about the home side ( I did try to get hold of some highlights) , so will have to pass. However, if this is a match you are interested in Bate do have their own YouTube channel and you can see a lot of highlights of recent games on there and yes, they are struggling atm !


Those two matches worked out perfectly, for us, as well as BATE, they both came on the back of very disappointing showings in the first leg on home soil and they will not want to do things the hard way a third time. Israeli clubs are traditionally strong at home and Hapoel have won both CL matches in Shmona in seemingly impressive style, beating Zilina of Slovakia 2-0 and Neftchi of Azerbaijan 4-0. The visitors do not have much european experience, just one UEFA cup appearance in 2008-09 when they lost in the second qualifying round, they have spent most of the last decade yo-yoing between the top two divisions, before claiming a shock championship win last season, securing the title with five rounds to spare. The long trip to Minsk, where BATE play their bigger games is not only a trip into the unknown for Hapoel, but a definite step up in class and they have to play without striker David Solari and holding midfielder Bryan Gerzicich, along with Macedonian international midfielder Darko Tasevski, Gerzicich is probably their key player and amongst the first names on the team sheet and Hapoel have no real, or at least experienced, natural replacement.

They rode their luck against Zilina in the first leg, where they lost 1-0, the hosts missed a penalty and the Hapoel goalkeeper was in inspired form, they deservedly turned the second leg around, but both goals came late and from terrible defensive errors from the same player. They also benefitted from some very sloppy defending in their demolition of Neftchi, after holdng out for 40 minutes the Azerbaijan champions went to pieces over the next thirty and the tie was lost.

It is very difficult to see the hugely experienced BATE team making similar errors and defensively they look solid, conceding just once ( to Debreceni and against the run of play) in five starts, they always see the move to the much bigger Dynama Stadium as giving them a "lift" and they arrive with a fully fit squad ,apart from midfielder Dmitri Baga, but the addition of Alexandr Hleb more than makes up for that and the club showed further ambition this last week by resigning another former star in Mikhail Sivakou, part of the team which reached the 2008 Champions League Group Stage and who first put BATE on the bigger European stage. He played 80 minutes in the weekend 0-0 draw with Gomel, Hleb just over an hour, Radzionau likewise and others including Bressan ( who had a goal and assist in the previous outing, a 4-0 win at Naftan.... it should have been six or seven btw) were not used at all, there is now huge competition for places and they are fully focused on reaching the group stage for the third time in seven years. Their midfield looks silky smooth, with huge levels of experience and talent and the loss of Gerzicich will be sorely felt by the visitors in this key area. 1.75 units BATE -0.5 ball 1.97 asian line..... preview written five hours ago, current quote is 1.90 and still acceptable IMO.

Good Luck.
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08-22-2012 , 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Yell Fire!
YTD: 5-8-0 (-3.14u)

8/21

Borussia Monchengladbach ML over Dinamo Kiev (2.400) L
FC Copenhagen/Lille OSC under 2, 2.5 (1.877) W

2u on both.

4 Game Parlay all ML (30.82) L
>>Borussia Monchengladbach
>>Draw - FC Copenhagen/Lille OSC
>>Basel
>>Celtic FC
8/22

Chelsea ML over Reading (1.302) - 6u
Bate Borisov ML over Hapoel Kiryat Shmona (1.806) - 4u

2 Game Parlay (2.36) - 2.2u
>>Chelsea ML
>>Bate Borisov ML

Embracing variance today, 12.2u in play.
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08-22-2012 , 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by GOWIAH
I agree with the BATE pick, a little more background info....

CHAMPIONS LEAGUE:

FC BATE BORISOV- HAPOEL KIRYAT SHMONA


We have been involved in BATE's last two away legs in the competition, favouring Vardar with the handicap start ( 0-0) at a time when the Belarus champions were in poor form and missing several key players , but backing them in Hungary ( W2-0) against Debreceni, when they were showing better form and had not only made two big name signings , but had their trio of promising youngsters back from the Olympics. Key points reproduced below....

Written August 7th
We do have a couple of Champions League fixtures and one involves BATE, whom we discussed recently ahead of their 0-0 draw with FK Vardar ( see below) and especially how poor they were suddenly playing domestically, home side Debreceni who made the group stage in 2009-10 were of some interest after drawing 1-1 in Borisov. But after watching the highlights, I am not so sure, offensively BATE looked significantly better and since the match in Skopje have signed Belarusian internationals Aleksandr Hleb and Raman Vasilyuk. Both played some part in the first leg, around 90 minutes between the hugely experienced pair and now the players who have been in London, will also return. So we can expect a big improvement in BATE in the next couple of weeks. Given that the hosts would snatch your arm off for 0-0, I can see some value in the away side at level ball at odds against. BATE level ball 2.11 asian line.


Written July 25th
From a betting perspective, tonight's matches hold little interest, I understand that BATE are going through a tough time at present, they needed two injury time goals to turn the first leg around and take an advantage of any sort to Macedonia for the return leg with FK Vardar in Skopje. The visitors are far more experienced at this level and have twice made it through to the group stage, last season and in 2008-09, when they were a pretty good team. They have certainly regressed a little since then and by their normal standards are in freefall ! They lead their domestic league by three points with a game in hand, but their lead is normally double figures and they have collected just two points from their last three league starts. They will sorely miss midfielders Renan Bressan ( 15 starts-4 goals- 3 assists) and Dmitri Baga ( 15-5-4), plus defender Denis Polyakov ( 13 starts), all of whom are in action at the Olympics and word is that Vardar and their supporters are really up for this one. The match is a 33,000 sell out, the atmosphere will be white hot and odds look on the skinny side for the visitors, who do not need to win, but I know very little about the home side ( I did try to get hold of some highlights) , so will have to pass. However, if this is a match you are interested in Bate do have their own YouTube channel and you can see a lot of highlights of recent games on there and yes, they are struggling atm !


Those two matches worked out perfectly, for us, as well as BATE, they both came on the back of very disappointing showings in the first leg on home soil and they will not want to do things the hard way a third time. Israeli clubs are traditionally strong at home and Hapoel have won both CL matches in Shmona in seemingly impressive style, beating Zilina of Slovakia 2-0 and Neftchi of Azerbaijan 4-0. The visitors do not have much european experience, just one UEFA cup appearance in 2008-09 when they lost in the second qualifying round, they have spent most of the last decade yo-yoing between the top two divisions, before claiming a shock championship win last season, securing the title with five rounds to spare. The long trip to Minsk, where BATE play their bigger games is not only a trip into the unknown for Hapoel, but a definite step up in class and they have to play without striker David Solari and holding midfielder Bryan Gerzicich, along with Macedonian international midfielder Darko Tasevski, Gerzicich is probably their key player and amongst the first names on the team sheet and Hapoel have no real, or at least experienced, natural replacement.

They rode their luck against Zilina in the first leg, where they lost 1-0, the hosts missed a penalty and the Hapoel goalkeeper was in inspired form, they deservedly turned the second leg around, but both goals came late and from terrible defensive errors from the same player. They also benefitted from some very sloppy defending in their demolition of Neftchi, after holdng out for 40 minutes the Azerbaijan champions went to pieces over the next thirty and the tie was lost.

It is very difficult to see the hugely experienced BATE team making similar errors and defensively they look solid, conceding just once ( to Debreceni and against the run of play) in five starts, they always see the move to the much bigger Dynama Stadium as giving them a "lift" and they arrive with a fully fit squad ,apart from midfielder Dmitri Baga, but the addition of Alexandr Hleb more than makes up for that and the club showed further ambition this last week by resigning another former star in Mikhail Sivakou, part of the team which reached the 2008 Champions League Group Stage and who first put BATE on the bigger European stage. He played 80 minutes in the weekend 0-0 draw with Gomel, Hleb just over an hour, Radzionau likewise and others including Bressan ( who had a goal and assist in the previous outing, a 4-0 win at Naftan.... it should have been six or seven btw) were not used at all, there is now huge competition for places and they are fully focused on reaching the group stage for the third time in seven years. Their midfield looks silky smooth, with huge levels of experience and talent and the loss of Gerzicich will be sorely felt by the visitors in this key area. 1.75 units BATE -0.5 ball 1.97 asian line..... preview written five hours ago, current quote is 1.90 and still acceptable IMO.

Good Luck.

Shamelessly copying someone elses work. Nice

EDIT: Stuff that some people pay multiple hundred euros for.

Last edited by SMUTTTT; 08-22-2012 at 02:18 PM.
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08-22-2012 , 04:07 PM
Yell, forgive my being dumb but what does ML mean?
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08-22-2012 , 04:40 PM
"Shamelessly copying someone elses work. Nice

EDIT: Stuff that some people pay multiple hundred euros for. "


These are my own notes written this morning @ 09.30 , you should really check your facts before making accusations and not try to discourage new posters on the forum.

Good Luck.
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08-22-2012 , 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by giraffeboy
Yell, forgive my being dumb but what does ML mean?
Sorry, ML = Moneyline, just means I'm betting that side to win. I suppose it's more of a North American sport term that isn't used in football. I should probably use my terms more accurately =]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yell Fire!
YTD: 8-8-0 (+4.96u)

8/22

Chelsea ML over Reading (1.302) - 6u W
Bate Borisov ML over Hapoel Kiryat Shmona (1.806) - 4u W

2 Game Parlay (2.36) - 2.2u W
>>Chelsea ML
>>Bate Borisov ML
Embracing variance pays off today, but Reading gave me a scare. Also, thank you GOWIAH for the additional information on Bate Borisov, definitely relied on your opinion for that selection.
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08-22-2012 , 06:07 PM
Im sorry GOWIAH. Looks like i was wrong then. Apologies
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08-22-2012 , 06:15 PM
Ahh ty, all makes sense now lol

Last edited by giraffeboy; 08-22-2012 at 06:15 PM. Reason: @yell
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08-23-2012 , 01:55 AM
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Originally Posted by SMUTTTT
Im sorry GOWIAH. Looks like i was wrong then. Apologies
No problem, the GOWI part of my username might have indicated I was the actual author.

Good luck.
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08-23-2012 , 06:33 AM
1-0(+1.86u)yesterday
YTD:25-31-3(-1.38u)

My picks for today:
Tromso-Partisan,Tromso to win,2u to win 2.4u
Molde-Heerenveen,Molde to win,2u to win 2.2u
Sheriff-Marseille,Marseille -1AH,2u to win 2.3u
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08-23-2012 , 11:18 AM
Got £20 on Liverpool to get relegated at 100/1
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08-23-2012 , 11:52 AM
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Got £20 on Liverpool to get relegated at 100/1
lol. think its a terrible bet but i still love it
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08-23-2012 , 01:53 PM
YTD: 8-8-0 (+4.96u)

8/23

FC Barcelona -0.5, -1 over Real Madrid (1.943)
FC Barcelona vs Real Madrid - over 3 goals (1.962)

2u on both, 4u total in stake.
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08-24-2012 , 06:20 AM
2-0-1(+4.6u)yesterday
YTD:27-31-4(+3.22u)

No picks for today.
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08-24-2012 , 09:09 PM
YTD 3-6 +0.42U

Todays bets:

Manchester U v Fulham: United to win both halves @ 2.87 - 2U

Swansea to beat West Ham @ 2.10 - 2U

Chelsea v Newcastle: Newcastle +1 @ 2.40 - 2U

Tottenham v West Brom: Tottenham -1 @ 2.40 - 2U

1U parlay @ 34.78

Total Stake 9U
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08-25-2012 , 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Yell Fire!
YTD: 10-8-0 (+7.83u)

8/23

FC Barcelona -0.5, -1 over Real Madrid (1.943) W
FC Barcelona vs Real Madrid - over 3 goals (1.962) W

2u on both, 4u total in stake.
8/25

Swansea City to win vs West Ham United (2.08) - 2u
Newcastle United +1 vs Chelsea (2.080) - 2u
Manchester United -1.5 vs Fulham (1.962) -2u
Aston Villa vs Everton - Draw (3.370) -1u

3 Game Parlay (8.49) -1u
>>Newcastle United +1
>>Manchester United -1.5
>>Swansea City to win

8u total in stake.
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08-25-2012 , 07:14 AM
YTD:27-31-4(+3.22u)

My picks for today:
Inverness CT v Celtic,Celtic - 1.5AH,2u to win 2.7u
Notts County v Walsall,Notts County -1AH,2u to win 2.5u
Manchester United v Fulham,Man.Utd -1.5AH,2u to win 1.86u
Greuther Furth v Bayern Munchen,Bayern Munchen-1.5AH,2u to win 2.62u
Kilmarnock v Dundee United Over 2.5 goals 2u to win 2.4u
Middlesbrough v Crystal Palace,Middlesbrough -1 AH,2u to win 2.78u
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08-25-2012 , 11:35 AM
I find it surprising that bets are recommended quoting prices that seem to be Betfair prices.

Betfair says "Don't Settle for Less"
I only use them under duress
Premium Charges Apply
Which can reach the Sky
And they increase with every success

The recent advertising campaign by Betfair is misleading. It looks at the last Premiership season in England and claims that Betfair was better than Bet 365 on 178 of 250 winning outcomes better than Ladbrokes on 173 of the 250 winning outcomes and better than William Hill on 187 of the 250 winning outcomes. The false impression given is that Betfair is generally better than the high-street bookmaker. Nothing could be further than the truth.

I downloaded all the data from www.football-data.co.uk (a highly recommended site by the way). The average overround of the best prices of the leading bookmakers that it uses for the Premiership last year was 100.5%. The average overround for Betfair prices, after allowing for the 5% will be those that do not currently use Betfair) is 104%. On average, the Betfair price is about 5% worse than the main bookmakers, after commission. In the 380 matches last year, Betfair was best price in 0, yes zero, of these, so it was clearly never best price on the winning outcome either. So, the advert is a complete con, using a clever comparison to deceive the customer.

And the above is disregarding Premium Charges, which successful players incur, and other charges for using an API etc. Perhaps the motto should be changed to:

Don't Settle for Less
Use Betfair for Chess!
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08-26-2012 , 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Yell Fire!
8/25

Swansea City to win vs West Ham United (2.08) - 2u W
Newcastle United +1 vs Chelsea (2.080) - 2u L
Manchester United -1.5 vs Fulham (1.962) -2u L
Aston Villa vs Everton - Draw (3.370) -1u L

3 Game Parlay (8.49) -1u L
>>Newcastle United +1
>>Manchester United -1.5
>>Swansea City to win

8u total in stake.
YTD: 11-12-0 (+3.99u)

8/26

Arsenal PK, -0.5 vs Stoke City (1.917) -3u
Arsenal vs Stoke City u2.5 goals (1.826) -3u
Manchester City to win vs Liverpool (2.460) -3u
Manchester City vs Liverpool o2.5 goals (2.000) -3u

12u total in stake, embrace that variance on Sunday.
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08-26-2012 , 05:56 AM
3-2-1(+3.72u)yesterday
YTD:30-33-5(+6.94u)

My picks for today:
Stoke v Arsenal,Arsenal to win,2u to win 2.4u
Liverpool v Man City,Man City to win,2u to win 3.2u
FC Groningen v PSV,PSV -1.5AH,2u to win 2.5u
Getafe v Real Madrid,Real Madrid -1.5AH,2u to win 2.18u
Brondby IF v Esbjerg FB,Brondby IF to win,2u to win 2.1u
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08-26-2012 , 08:29 AM
Stoke v Arsenal

Under 4 cards. 4/5 1U


Liverpool v Man City

Man city to win 6/4. 1U

Man city most corners. 13/10 1U
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