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11-04-2010 , 09:43 AM

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zY|

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They would all knock you out, guaranteed.

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11-04-2010 , 09:49 AM

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GuidaClayAllDay

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1. This is not a sportsbetting thread.

2. Dodge why do you always got to stoop to new lows?

3. RandoBrando is the new grumpy64

4. (In an attempt to try to make this a sportsbetting thread), this merger is terrible for bettors as more people are going to be watching the lower weight classes (a lot of countries did not have access to the WEC), and the lines will be less lucrative.

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11-04-2010 , 10:01 AM

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GuidaClayAllDay

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Dodge I'd like you to have this conversation about 135ers not knocking people out to Torres, Benavidez, Maeda, and Banuelos and see what they have to say.

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11-04-2010 , 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by dodge_soaps

Lol at your illiteracy, Aldo fights at 145 = not bantamweight. I specifically said that 125 and 135 lb fighters can't knock people out. If a 220lb Jon Doe off the street can slap you around then you shouldn't be considered a professional fighter. It's like watching freak show fights, it's entertaining but irrelevant.

the point of entertainment is to be entertaining you moron

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11-04-2010 , 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by luegofuego

the point of entertainment is to be entertaining you moron

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11-04-2010 , 01:46 PM

#31

dodge_soaps

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Well no sh$t but having no weight classes would be entertaining now too wouldn't it? I compare the 125 and 135 classes to women's mma, which the ufc wants no part of. And no, there is a not a woman or 135 lb or less man in this world that would knock me out, I will be more than happy to take that freak show fight if you can set it up lol.

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11-04-2010 , 01:52 PM

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Dollar Bill

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Originally Posted by dodge_soaps

What's the point? I mean you're a 135 lb pro fighter and you can hardly protect yourself in the real world? Go try cycling or horse jockeying.

Dude you are such a ****** it isn't even funny anymore.

Some of the best fights are fought at 135 and 145.

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11-04-2010 , 01:53 PM

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DodgerIrish

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With fewer cards and the new fighters being brought in, the old divisions will be trimmed and cuts will be more routine.

Should mean fewer weak opponents, which some bettors would erroneously find value in giving large edges to some favs in spots

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11-04-2010 , 02:00 PM

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Dude you are such a ****** it isn't even funny anymore.

Some of the best fights are fought at 135 and 145.

I never said anything negative about 145 AND I already said 125-135 were entertaining but irrelevant you bandwagon geek.

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11-04-2010 , 02:57 PM

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zY|

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Originally Posted by Dollar Bill

Dude you are such a ****** it isn't even funny anymore.

Some of the best fights are fought at 135 and 145.

He's just under the delusion that his fat ass could bully these little guys (who are elite athletes) like he did in high school.

Just go watch little Roger Huerta merk that linebacker with one shot to bring yourself back to reality.

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11-04-2010 , 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by dodge_soaps

And no, there is a not a woman or 135 lb or less man in this world that would knock me out, I will be more than happy to take that freak show fight if you can set it up lol.

Where do you live?

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11-04-2010 , 03:21 PM

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dodge_soaps

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Illinois ... and lol at calling me a fatass zY, once again put your broke money up. Link to Huerta KO'ing a legit NFL linebacker plz.

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11-04-2010 , 03:38 PM

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Lols, 125 lbs thai fighters would wreck any non professional fighter in a street fight. You'd be out so fast from knees and leg kicks you'd gain a whole new perspective on life.

And yeah, Huerta just demolished that nfl guy within seconds.

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11-04-2010 , 04:53 PM

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dodge_soaps

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You ever heard of wrestling/grappling? Thai fighters are malnutritioned bums.

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11-04-2010 , 05:13 PM

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LasFuentes

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Thai fighters use throws in their fights as well. Yes a lot of them have to fight for their next meal but they would still destroy any average joe outweighing them by 100 lbs+ in a fight. GL using grappling after eating a few blows from someone so fast and elusive.

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11-04-2010 , 05:46 PM

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It's not hard to keep an opponent out of range when you have 10" of reach and know how to use a jab. If they throw a kick its an auto takedown and fight is over. You have to stop the weight classes somewhere.

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11-04-2010 , 06:02 PM

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Thremp

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This discussion is absurd. I rank this as somewhere around as absurd as a 400lbs power clean being "unimpressive".

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11-04-2010 , 06:23 PM

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dodge_soaps

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I assume you're saying my side is absurd, care to explain?

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11-04-2010 , 06:34 PM

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You've never seen anyone in the ring with the speed/motor of an elite 125/135. The difference between amateur and professional is massive. The difference to elite fighters is just as large. Unless you're trying to brag about your ability it is ridiculous to suggest that an average person who trains MMA at 200lbs or whatever wouldn't get absolutely crushed by an elite level fighter despite giving up 50lbs.

ETA: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmanuel_Yarborough

Is a valuable data point.

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11-04-2010 , 07:03 PM

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LasFuentes

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Originally Posted by dodge_soaps

Yeah because an average person's jab would obv prevent a pro Thai fighter from throwing kicks or from getting on the inside. A lack of reach has also stopped fighters such as Tyson, Duran, LaMotta etc. from ever becoming successful. And I'm sure your or joe schmoess lightning fast reflexes would be good enough to take down a fast Thai throwing leg kicks that can hit you 20 times before you can make a few steps.

Watch Warpath vs. Bas Rutten, or a Hoost hl for a demonstration of what low leg kicks do.

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11-04-2010 , 08:13 PM

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apaugust

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dodge_soaps:

Your argument is based on the point that maybe a very light professional couldn't beat up some larger non professional opponents in a street fight so they aren't worth watching.

UFC is a showcase for the best MMA (That stands for Mixed Martial Arts not Street) fighters in the world at given weight classes.

How is your argument relevant to what weight classes should or shouldn't be in the UFC again?

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11-04-2010 , 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Thremp

Lol at thinking Yarborough is relevant to this. I was exaggerating somewhat with the Jon Doe off the street but yes I would bet lots of moniez that almost any decent amateur LHW or HW with atleast a high school wrestling base would crush the very best guys from 125-135. I understand how quick they are but if you're that much bigger/longer than you're going to be able to get your hands on them, especially if it's in a real world situation inside somewhere.

So everyone in this thread thinks that the UFC should include 125 and 135? Why not 115? 100?

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11-04-2010 , 10:55 PM

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Count Chocula

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I don't think the ufc should do 125 yet, not enough talent there right now. But the KO power stuff that you're arguing is clearly bs. You are the prime example of what they call a keyboard warrior.

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11-04-2010 , 11:25 PM

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GuidaClayAllDay

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Originally Posted by dodge_soaps

So everyone in this thread thinks that the UFC should include 125 and 135? Why not 115? 100?

Because there is a much smaller talent pool of fighters in the 100-115 pound range, much smaller than the HW division. Maybe in the future as MMA becomes more popular, there may be one.

I definitely lost some IQ points reading dodge's posts in this thread. I thought we were better than this. Shame on him for his doltish behavior, shame on me for getting ensnared in the troll thread.

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11-05-2010 , 03:10 AM

#50

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Who the fk weighs 100lbs?

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