Yeah, fold or shove, you don't want A9s taking a flop in a big pot, in or out of position.

that's not true, A9s is the ideal hand for a big pot, but it should be big because it is multiway, not because you are calling a re-raise

Huh? You're never that happy hitting your A because you can't take a lot of heat, and having 9 as your TP is even uglier. You're then counting on flopping your nut draw, and you'll have to either give up on a big pot or bluff a lot of rivers when you miss.

blah down $1000 in like 700 hands of 1/2 and 2/4 today, just missing everything, get no cards and getting run over. Going shopping now to spend some serious cash...and then come back and earn some more at the tables. I might not make $30k on the month anymore

the idea is that in a multiway pot you can win hudge monies with a flush - but obviously this will not happen very often, so you cannot afford to put a lot of money in pf (no calling pfrrs for example)

I love spending money on losing days.

Okay, we were talking about 2 different things, i was talking specifically about calling 3 bets with hands like that.

Yes... but he was really aiming for me with his 3bets, because i was playing pretty loose. Plus i had position, so A9 is ahead of his range. I mean, if you call with AJ why not with A9? I think im pretty happy with that hand since the 44 hand happened like 12 minutes earlier, and entire gtable was commenting how i was a station. (please get out of this discussion if you never call 3bets with AJ ip from heavy squeezer).

It's not about being ahead of his range, its about playing postflop and not having betting initiative. You're really only thinking on one street.

You say this like its a bad thing.

Its not a bad thing, its just a different style of play. And if you never do it, dont come here saying its bad or something. If you play 19/16 you will rarely be 3bet alot in the first place so you never get in those spots in the first place.

The thing is, i have position postflop, this guy is pretty nitty, but does weird stuff once in a while so i liked my hand enough to see a flop with it. And he has been 3betting me a ton preflop on all tables. The board was pretty draw heavy too, so i think flush draws are a pretty big part of his range?

AJ and similar hands have reverse implied odds in 3 bet pots. If you can disagree with this, please explain why.

You're also trying to take a suited Ace rag against a nitty player. You just never flop big enough for this to be a profitable call.

yes they are bluffcatchers, what hand would you take a stand with then? I dont like 4betting much vs this guy.. A9 seems a good hand to try and take the pot away postflop. He doesnt cbet alot so if he checks i can take it down, or in this catch play it as a bluffcatcher?

And again, this was prolly the 7th or 8th time that he did this in like 10-15 minutes.

Hmm i think i like 4betting him with some trash hand better. hate to do it with a hand like A9.

reverse implied odds are hugely overrated imo , especially in 3 bet pooooots.

So if an A flops and he c-bets, do you fold?

And if somebody is 3 betting me that light, my 4 betting range goes way way wider. Your hand really isn't important.

What site was this btw?

If I call a 3 bet IP with AJ and an A flops, I'm planning to get the monies in.

I'm behind this

Poker's easy imo


Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

SB: $95.20
Hero (BB): $312.30
UTG: $209.25
MP: $246.45
CO: $80.75
BTN: $241.30

Pre-Flop: 3 3 dealt to Hero (BB)
3 folds, BTN raises to $7, SB folds, Hero calls $5

Flop: ($15) 5 Q 2 (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $12, Hero raises to $30, BTN raises to $72, Hero raises to $233, BTN folds

Results: $159 Pot ($3 Rake)
Hero mucked 3 3 and WON $156 (+$77 NET)

one is ahead of AT, ties w/ AJ and can flop a pair higher than 99 and TT w either card, while the other cannot

nh thac

I love it when they raise a certain amount so as obviously not commit themselves.

Saturday Hand #1:

You know those times you put a lot of money in with a set and they have the str8, and you're like [censored] they ALWAYS have the str8?

Poker Stars, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

MP: $429
CO: $468.85
BTN: $439.60
SB: $378.95
BB: $811.20
keikiwai (UTG): $439.85

Pre-Flop: 5 5 dealt to keikiwai (UTG)
keikiwai raises to $16, 3 folds, SB calls $14, BB folds

Flop: ($36) 5 7 4 (2 Players)
SB checks, keikiwai bets $30, SB raises to $72, keikiwai raises to $234, SB calls $162

Turn: ($504) A (2 Players)
SB checks, keikiwai bets $156, SB calls $128.95 and is All-In

River: ($761.90) 8 (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $761.90 Pot ($3 Rake)
SB showed T T (a pair of Tens) and LOST (-$378.95 NET)
keikiwai showed 5 5 (three of a kind, Fives) and WON $758.90 (+$379.95 NET)

i dunno if there's been discussion about this, but removing the reg threads was ******ed

******s

1) Thank god I'm running good at 600NL and crap at 200NL, not the other way around

2) Everybody - EVERYBODY - has officially lost their freaking minds. What the [censored] is going on at Party SSNL???? Villain here is 21/16, and this session I am playing - wait for the craziness - 19/10/1 - so obviously I'm raising from UTG+1 light and need to be played back at???? I raised here because I haven't done anything for like 4 orbits.



Party Poker, $3/$6 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

UTG: $652
Hero (MP): $600
CO: $1,957.62
BTN: $922.45
SB: $578.40
BB: $720.60

Pre-Flop: Q 9 dealt to Hero (MP)
UTG folds, Hero raises to $21, 3 folds, BB calls $15

Flop: ($45) 8 Q 9 (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero bets $36, BB raises to $119.60, Hero calls $83.60

Turn: ($284.20) 6 (2 Players)
BB bets $200, Hero raises to $459.40 and is All-In, BB calls $259.40

River: ($1,203) 7 (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $1,203 Pot ($3 Rake)
Hero showed Q 9 (two pairs, Queens and Nines) and WON $1,200 (+$600 NET)
BB showed 8 Q (two pairs, Queens and Eights) and LOST (-$600 NET)


Villain: so sick 2day lolol
BomboB: nice call preflop???????
Villain: u raise Q9o lol
BomboB: I HAVE POSITION
Villain: orly?
BomboB: ya rly
guy 2: what is position?
guy 2: what are you guys
BomboB: i did him doggy style
BomboB:

I can't believe you smooth called the flop.

I mean I honestly reckon I could play 15/5/0.5, and still eget 3bet every second open.