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OT: How often do regs spew? OT: How often do regs spew?

11-19-2007 , 05:52 AM
more than I want to think about
11-19-2007 , 05:54 AM
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OK, so I sit down this afternoon and play like an idiot.

Basically give away 4 buyins.

How often does this happen to other regs? If you are aiming for 4-5ptBB/100 long-term (and let's not argue over the number, pick whatever number you like), does that include the periodic spew session because sooner or later it's inevitable, or is that earn rate for machine-like players only?
Well, if you're a long term 4-5ptbb winnner and you sometimes spew, i guess regs do.

I don't spew and win about that, so maybe I'm not talented enough to win 5ptbb and spew sometimes.
11-19-2007 , 06:41 AM
Only when moving up.
11-19-2007 , 07:04 AM
Are you Jennifer Garner?
11-19-2007 , 07:16 AM
If we didnt make a single spewy play in a session we wouldnt be in ssnl surely. That said, I seem to have a spewy session at least once a week, which is worrying.
11-19-2007 , 07:22 AM
if you aren't spewing sometimes then you are probably playing like a vag
11-19-2007 , 07:25 AM
i never do this towards the beginning of sessions. i do it once in a while towards the end.
11-19-2007 , 07:31 AM
I'll regularly do it at the start of a session, esp if its in the morning. 90% of the time I have a bad spewy session there is a solid reason why I shouldnt have sit down to play
11-19-2007 , 07:49 AM
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if you aren't spewing sometimes then you are probably playing like a vag
Spewing and playing like an idiot is not the same thing. If you're often playing like an idiot, you're probably an idiot.
11-19-2007 , 07:54 AM
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if you aren't spewing sometimes then you are probably playing like a vag
Spewing and playing like an idiot is not the same thing. If you're often playing like an idiot, you're probably an idiot.
ah damn!
11-19-2007 , 07:56 AM
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if you aren't spewing sometimes then you are probably playing like a vag
11-19-2007 , 07:57 AM
I think there is a difference between playing aggressive and good poker, and between tilt. I classify spew as tilt. So spewwing sometimes doesnt have to do anything with playing like a vag. Nits tilt, and they are playing like vags.
11-19-2007 , 08:02 AM
i spew about once a fortnight, basically a session where nothing seems to go right... Last night was a good example, I drop 4 buy-ins in about 10mins, grind it back to minus 1buy-in and then lose a 200bb pot, within 3 mins i made a dubious 4 bet bluff, got away with it but i immediately closed my tables.
The fact i can now just book a small loss has improved my winrate no end.

As for other regs, they spew a lot imo at nl100 / and ofter at nl200.
11-19-2007 , 08:10 AM
Probably around 5PTBB/100 lifetime in pure spew
11-19-2007 , 08:15 AM
no-one plays perfect poker. In general, you will either error on the side of not putting enough money in the pot or putting too much money in. I see the latter as "spew". Hence the statement "if you aren't spewing sometimes then you are probably playing like a vag" holds true.

thoughts?
11-19-2007 , 08:19 AM
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no-one plays perfect poker. In general, you will either error on the side of not putting enough money in the pot or putting too much money in. I see the latter as "spew". Hence the statement "if you aren't spewing sometimes then you are probably playing like a vag" holds true.
Agree. This is what's referred to in OP though.
11-19-2007 , 08:27 AM
I don't get this at all. Having had a bad session doesn't necessarily mean having been spewy. A multistreet bluff for example always looks like spew if you get called. Now if this happens three times within a session, this just qualifies as spew whereas it's close to standard if the bluffs work out?
Blaming poor winrates on spew is probably like blaming them on running bad - it just palliates some substantial mistakes we're making every session.
11-19-2007 , 08:50 AM
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A multistreet bluff for example always looks like spew if you get called. Now if this happens three times within a session, this just qualifies as spew whereas it's close to standard if the bluffs work out?
This became a discussion on semantics. Imo spew is putting a lot of money in the pot in spots where you should not. This doesn't necessarily mean making big mistakes or idiotic plays.

When OP said: "OK, so I sit down this afternoon and play like an idiot." I did not take it he meant: "OK, so I sit down this afternoon and lose alot by making some marginally bad decisions."
11-19-2007 , 08:59 AM
i don't tilt hardly at all, but i feel spewey from time to time.

i think it has to do with all your bluffs being called in 1 session, it's just variance. if you are getting no respect and you continue to bluff like a maniac then that is spew, and is just bad poker, plain and simple
11-19-2007 , 09:36 AM
Perhaps a lot of the spew we are talking about is results oriented. We have a session where we bluff a lot and it all comes off, we are god's gift to poker. Another time we lose 4 BIs and feel like an idiot.
11-19-2007 , 10:05 AM
This thread as made me feel much better about myself.

Ftr, I spew once per hand.
11-19-2007 , 10:48 AM
how exactly do you mean when you say you spew? is somthing like this classed as spew? Or is it somthing with 0 equity and your just blindly shoving hoping they will fold?

i think i do this too much

$2.00/$4.00 - No Limit Hold'em - 12:14:02 - 2007/11/19
Seat 4: rizzla87 ($204.90)
Seat 5: LAPRUNE222 ($299.00)
Seat 6: Matrixwolf ($445.00)
Seat 1: HERO ($394.00)
Seat 2: paris55 ($200.00)
Matrixwolf posts the small blind of $2.00
HERO posts the big blind of $4.00
paris55 posts $4.00
rizzla87 posts a dead small blind of $2.00
rizzla87 posts $4.00
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HERO[Ad Qh]
paris55 checks
rizzla87 checks
LAPRUNE222 calls $4.00
Matrixwolf calls $2.00
Superuser363 raises to $30.00
paris55 folds
rizzla87 folds
LAPRUNE222 calls $26.00
Matrixwolf folds
*** FLOP *** [Jd 2h Js]
Superuser363 bets $52.00
LAPRUNE222 calls $52.00
*** TURN *** [Jd 2h Js] [Th]
HERO checks
LAPRUNE222 bets $55.00
HERO raises to $312.00 and is all-in
LAPRUNE222 calls $162.00 and is all-in
Uncalled bet of $95.00 returned to Superuser363
*** SHOW DOWN ***
HERO shows [Ad Qh]
LAPRUNE222 shows [6h Jh]
*** RIVER *** [Jd 2h Js Th] [5d]
*** SUMMARY ***
Board: [Jd 2h Js Th 5d]
LAPRUNE222 collects $610.00
11-19-2007 , 10:54 AM
I dumped a few buyin's last night. I tilt very rarely, but something wound me up last night. It's more embarrassing than anything esle. And it does suck that I have to grind the money back when I basically gave it away.
11-19-2007 , 11:11 AM
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how exactly do you mean when you say you spew? is somthing like this classed as spew? Or is it somthing with 0 equity and your just blindly shoving hoping they will fold?

i think i do this too much

$2.00/$4.00 - No Limit Hold'em - 12:14:02 - 2007/11/19
Seat 4: rizzla87 ($204.90)
Seat 5: LAPRUNE222 ($299.00)
Seat 6: Matrixwolf ($445.00)
Seat 1: HERO ($394.00)
Seat 2: paris55 ($200.00)
Matrixwolf posts the small blind of $2.00
HERO posts the big blind of $4.00
paris55 posts $4.00
rizzla87 posts a dead small blind of $2.00
rizzla87 posts $4.00
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HERO[Ad Qh]
paris55 checks
rizzla87 checks
LAPRUNE222 calls $4.00
Matrixwolf calls $2.00
Superuser363 raises to $30.00
paris55 folds
rizzla87 folds
LAPRUNE222 calls $26.00
Matrixwolf folds
*** FLOP *** [Jd 2h Js]
Superuser363 bets $52.00
LAPRUNE222 calls $52.00
*** TURN *** [Jd 2h Js] [Th]
HERO checks
LAPRUNE222 bets $55.00
HERO raises to $312.00 and is all-in
LAPRUNE222 calls $162.00 and is all-in
Uncalled bet of $95.00 returned to Superuser363
*** SHOW DOWN ***
HERO shows [Ad Qh]
LAPRUNE222 shows [6h Jh]
*** RIVER *** [Jd 2h Js Th] [5d]
*** SUMMARY ***
Board: [Jd 2h Js Th 5d]
LAPRUNE222 collects $610.00
Hi there Superuser363! Thought I'd be a good friend and quote this for you.
11-19-2007 , 11:18 AM
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how exactly do you mean when you say you spew? is somthing like this classed as spew? Or is it somthing with 0 equity and your just blindly shoving hoping they will fold?

i think i do this too much

$2.00/$4.00 - No Limit Hold'em - 12:14:02 - 2007/11/19
Seat 4: rizzla87 ($204.90)
Seat 5: LAPRUNE222 ($299.00)
Seat 6: Matrixwolf ($445.00)
Seat 1: HERO ($394.00)
Seat 2: paris55 ($200.00)
Matrixwolf posts the small blind of $2.00
HERO posts the big blind of $4.00
paris55 posts $4.00
rizzla87 posts a dead small blind of $2.00
rizzla87 posts $4.00
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HERO[Ad Qh]
paris55 checks
rizzla87 checks
LAPRUNE222 calls $4.00
Matrixwolf calls $2.00
Superuser363 raises to $30.00
paris55 folds
rizzla87 folds
LAPRUNE222 calls $26.00
Matrixwolf folds
*** FLOP *** [Jd 2h Js]
Superuser363 bets $52.00
LAPRUNE222 calls $52.00
*** TURN *** [Jd 2h Js] [Th]
HERO checks
LAPRUNE222 bets $55.00
HERO raises to $312.00 and is all-in
LAPRUNE222 calls $162.00 and is all-in
Uncalled bet of $95.00 returned to Superuser363
*** SHOW DOWN ***
HERO shows [Ad Qh]
LAPRUNE222 shows [6h Jh]
*** RIVER *** [Jd 2h Js Th] [5d]
*** SUMMARY ***
Board: [Jd 2h Js Th 5d]
LAPRUNE222 collects $610.00
Hi there Superuser363! Thought I'd be a good friend and quote this for you.
gee thanks?

      
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