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06-03-2010 , 04:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by smurg
I don't think it's about being "good" because very often they aren't getting in any worse top pair, it's about FE, dead money, balance, image, etc.
why would you want FE with TPTK and the nut flush draw? You only have FE against hands that have like 10% equity
06-03-2010 , 05:10 PM
I think this hand represents TPTK and the NFD as a bluff catcher:

Villain is something like 25/21/AFq67

Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 735773
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

BronzeStar1 (SB): $88.50
acampbell49 (BB): $57.80
Hero (UTG): $100.00
ched1986 (CO): $103.20
Nosophoros (BTN): $108.00

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is UTG with A K
Hero raises to $3, 1 fold, Nosophoros calls $3, 2 folds

Flop: ($7.50) 3 8 K (2 players)
Hero bets $5, Nosophoros raises to $16 Hero calls?


Last edited by Consty; 06-03-2010 at 05:15 PM. Reason: Forgot the pic
06-03-2010 , 05:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bilbo-san
why would you want FE with TPTK and the nut flush draw? You only have FE against hands that have like 10% equity
Well i was just generalizing with that statement, not really talking about the TPTK point. It makes OOP hands easier to play. With a tight image, you could fold out a handful of better hands.
06-03-2010 , 05:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by smurg
Well i was just generalizing with that statement, not really talking about the TPTK point. It makes OOP hands easier to play. With a tight image, you could fold out a handful of better hands.
You would have to be pretty damn tight to CR people off 2pr+ on a two-tone board.
06-03-2010 , 05:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Consty
I think this hand represents TPTK and the NFD as a bluff catcher:

Villain is something like 25/21/AFq67

Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 735773
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

BronzeStar1 (SB): $88.50
acampbell49 (BB): $57.80
Hero (UTG): $100.00
ched1986 (CO): $103.20
Nosophoros (BTN): $108.00

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is UTG with A K
Hero raises to $3, 1 fold, Nosophoros calls $3, 2 folds

Flop: ($7.50) 3 8 K (2 players)
Hero bets $5, Nosophoros raises to $16 Hero calls?

Call down 3 streets.
06-03-2010 , 05:23 PM
Man its gonna take a while to get back in the grind. Just not motivated.
06-03-2010 , 05:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by IpodToucher
Call down 3 streets.
What if our draw bricks and we're facing a river shove with TPTK?
06-03-2010 , 05:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Consty
What if our draw bricks and we're facing a river shove with TPTK?
This i one of those rare spots where history, reads, and..ya know...skill come into play. There are no absolutes in poker.
06-03-2010 , 05:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Consty
I think this hand represents TPTK and the NFD as a bluff catcher:

Villain is something like 25/21/AFq67

Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 735773
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

BronzeStar1 (SB): $88.50
acampbell49 (BB): $57.80
Hero (UTG): $100.00
ched1986 (CO): $103.20
Nosophoros (BTN): $108.00

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is UTG with A K
Hero raises to $3, 1 fold, Nosophoros calls $3, 2 folds

Flop: ($7.50) 3 8 K (2 players)
Hero bets $5, Nosophoros raises to $16 Hero calls?

I mean, I don't mind 3betting FOR VALUE if you have the dynamic but 3betting as a semi-bluff is silly because you have TPTK, you don't want him to fold any bluffs (like if you had AQ yeah, you'd want him to fold his bluffs).
06-03-2010 , 06:13 PM
10bb/100 = (X)BB/100 = (X)ptbb/100?

Thanks, sorry if everyone knows this but me.
06-03-2010 , 06:15 PM
10bb=5BB=5PTBB/100

1BB=1PTBB/100
06-03-2010 , 06:30 PM
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06-03-2010 , 07:16 PM
Proof that c-combo breaker is a complete moron

I'm 3betting a huge fish you ****ing ******

Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

c-combo breaker (SB): $101.90
Morphinum (BB): $100.00
Rulo0 (UTG): $73.50
luthor (MP): $100.00
BravoNeo (CO): $100.00
Hero (BTN): $111.05

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN with K A
2 folds, BravoNeo raises to $3, Hero raises to $10.50, c-combo breaker raises to $23, 2 folds, Hero raises to $111.05 all in, c-combo breaker calls $78.90 all in

Flop: ($207.80) 5 2 7

Turn: ($207.80) 2

River: ($207.80) J

Final Pot: $207.80
c-combo breaker shows 9 9 (two pair, Nines and Twos)
Hero shows K A (a pair of Twos)
c-combo breaker wins $204.80
(Rake: $3.00)
06-03-2010 , 07:19 PM
Results seem inconclusive
06-03-2010 , 07:41 PM
I don't understand why he's a moron... because he didn't allow you easy access to the fish? He doesn't want you to stack him... he's not sitting at the table waiting for you to get a premium hand and allow the fish to get demolished.


I don't get why people bitch about that type of stuff. I would never say... go ahead... your turn to get a turn at the fish.
06-03-2010 , 07:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MATEUSZEK
I don't get why people bitch about that type of stuff. I would never say... go ahead... your turn to get a turn at the fish.
Yea basically this. The guy is basically 4bet or fold because calling sucks since the fish will possibly call with his whole opening range. maybe you say he should fold to your 5bet shove but I'm not sure why you want that. Either you are exploitable and will 5bet shove wideish making a 99 call +ev or you are always getting it in with a 5bet shove with a range ahead of 99. If it's the latter then I'm not sure why you're hating his call. Sucks you lost, but it's a fist pump thinking about all the times you will jam AA-QQ or whatever. I'd be drooling thinking about all the times I'm going to be getting 70+bbs bets called off when I'm 4:1.
06-03-2010 , 07:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MATEUSZEK
I don't understand why he's a moron... because he didn't allow you easy access to the fish? He doesn't want you to stack him... he's not sitting at the table waiting for you to get a premium hand and allow the fish to get demolished.


I don't get why people bitch about that type of stuff. I would never say... go ahead... your turn to get a turn at the fish.


Why don't you think about my range for 3betting a fish and shoving over a cold 4bet. Now go stove it v. 99.

Good to see what your thought process is.
06-03-2010 , 08:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by obobcatu
Yea basically this. The guy is basically 4bet or fold because calling sucks since the fish will possibly call with his whole opening range. maybe you say he should fold to your 5bet shove but I'm not sure why you want that. Either you are exploitable and will 5bet shove wideish making a 99 call +ev or you are always getting it in with a 5bet shove with a range ahead of 99. If it's the latter then I'm not sure why you're hating his call. Sucks you lost, but it's a fist pump thinking about all the times you will jam AA-QQ or whatever. I'd be drooling thinking about all the times I'm going to be getting 70+bbs bets called off when I'm 4:1.
I don't mind that he plays like a moron. I wouldn't point it out if I thought he could read english.
06-03-2010 , 08:28 PM
Got a nice little write up on pocketfives:

http://www.pocketfives.com/articles/...-crown-584595/
06-03-2010 , 08:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sixsixtie
Man its gonna take a while to get back in the grind. Just not motivated.
play some mtts for a change, thats what ive been doing
06-03-2010 , 09:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ringinabox
Hello, I'm looking for $2,000-$3,000 in Full Tilt money and I will give you Stars in exchange. Please PM if interested, I'll be willing to send first, if we do increments. I've done a small trade with Shamrock20, that's really my only reference.
taken care of
06-03-2010 , 10:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by eastern motors
Why don't you think about my range for 3betting a fish and shoving over a cold 4bet. Now go stove it v. 99.

Good to see what your thought process is.

The below does a wonderful job for me. Once again not sure why you're complaining. Is it because you lost a flip?


Quote:
Originally Posted by obobcatu
Yea basically this. The guy is basically 4bet or fold because calling sucks since the fish will possibly call with his whole opening range. maybe you say he should fold to your 5bet shove but I'm not sure why you want that. Either you are exploitable and will 5bet shove wideish making a 99 call +ev or you are always getting it in with a 5bet shove with a range ahead of 99. If it's the latter then I'm not sure why you're hating his call. Sucks you lost, but it's a fist pump thinking about all the times you will jam AA-QQ or whatever. I'd be drooling thinking about all the times I'm going to be getting 70+bbs bets called off when I'm 4:1.
06-03-2010 , 11:00 PM
Quote:
DirteAA: i dont even know if ur my type tho
DirteAA: can u send pics first?
DirteAA: i take that as a no?
heh

i laughed
06-03-2010 , 11:56 PM
I've recently moved from stars to ftp. Atm a lot of my tables seem to be getting 'stuck' when i try to close them. They just refuse to close no matter how many times i click the friggin X, and if i end it in task manager it closes the entire FTP client and all my other tables.

This is extremely irritating and I would be grateful for any help
06-04-2010 , 12:04 AM
change your lobby view to classic because it sounds like ftp is eating up your ram

      
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