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01-25-2016 , 05:35 PM
PokerStars - $1 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 194.09 BB
SB: 104.33 BB (VPIP: 19.79, PFR: 18.54, 3Bet Preflop: 6.74, Hands: 491)
BB: 198.89 BB (VPIP: 24.34, PFR: 18.86, 3Bet Preflop: 7.28, Hands: 2,021)
UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 24.50, PFR: 19.17, 3Bet Preflop: 11.02, Hands: 1,143)
MP: 107.27 BB (VPIP: 23.81, PFR: 18.33, 3Bet Preflop: 6.74, Hands: 1,871)
CO: 158.63 BB (VPIP: 27.10, PFR: 14.95, 3Bet Preflop: 6.00, Hands: 108)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A 9

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.3 BB, fold, BB calls 1.3 BB

Flop: (5.1 BB, 2 players) 5 4 J
BB checks, Hero bets 3 BB, BB raises to 10.13 BB, fold

BB wins 10.6 BB


what are the benefits for checking back or cbetting in a spot like this? what's the correct play?
01-25-2016 , 05:52 PM
BDNFD and dry flop looks good for a cbet
01-25-2016 , 06:01 PM
i see myself getting checkraised on boards like this way to often from worse hands like Ax, 76 combos and a lot of fd's. checking back seems like a good option for me, too. we can try to get this hand to showdown cheap and pickung up more equity on the turn.

i'm not sure what's the better play here. thanks for the answer
01-25-2016 , 10:27 PM
cbet is fine

benefit of checking is being able to realize more equity, get to showdown cheaply, not have a betting range that is way too high of a frequency

benefit of c-betting is to get value/fold out equity.
01-26-2016 , 01:06 AM
Yea either looks fine. You could probably mix both actions with this hand.

The opponent matters here a lot imo. The more aggressive the more often we check and the more they fold or otherwise play face-up the more often we should bet.
01-26-2016 , 01:39 AM
bet or check. Doesn't matter
01-26-2016 , 11:34 AM
alright, thanks
01-26-2016 , 12:16 PM
JJ+, 55, 44, 76s, A3s he would 3bet, no? you have 2k hands from him, you should already have a good picture about his restealing% and range (polarized?).

imo this c/r is so often a bluff. with the aforementioned stats and his flop af and c/r%, we might also just 3bet this flop lil bit more than a min3bet.
but if we would rebluff this flop based on his stats, we wouldnt cbet it anyways^^
02-04-2016 , 07:11 PM
Assuming we open the button with a 30% range of: 22+,A2s+,K2s+,Q7s+,J8s+,T8s+,97s+,86s+,75s+,64s+,5 4s,A9o+,KTo+,QTo+,JTo,T9o
On the Jh5h4s board, I would like to bet/check-raise for value JJ+,55-44,AJs,KJs,54s,AJo,KJo and maybe check-raise some % of sets. This represents 4.51% of hands considering card-removal.
We would like to check-call: AK, A5s,K5s,QJs,JTs,75s,65s,QJo,JTo which represents 5.95% of hands.
We would like to bet: AQs, ATs, KQs, KTs, QTs, AQo, ATo, KQo, KTo, QTo (6.8% of hands)
We would like to bet/Check-raise: A4s,K4s,86s+,76s,Ah9h,Kh9h,Qh9h,Jh9h,Th9h,Ah8h,Kh8 h,Qh8h,Jh8h,Th8h,9h8h,Ah7h,Kh7h,Qh7h,9h7h,Ah6h,Kh6 h,Ah3h,Kh3h,Ah2h,Kh2h which represents 3.15% of hands.
Thus we bet: 48.2% of the time.
We defend a total of: 68% of the time.

This is a very rough strategy (done quickly!), but the numbers seem fine considering the board isn't extremely favorable.
Now, onto your question, it seems fine to bet some of the nut flush draws here, but realize it is a the bottom of your range.
02-05-2016 , 02:07 AM
Hey Sparky, nice exercise/analysis. I'd point out that 30% opening range OTB is very tight for a 2.3x open size at these stack depths, however.
02-05-2016 , 10:35 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brokenstars
Hey Sparky, nice exercise/analysis. I'd point out that 30% opening range OTB is very tight for a 2.3x open size at these stack depths, however.
You're right, we should be opening more than 30% with this stack dept.
02-06-2016 , 08:27 PM
I look at texture vs my opponent's likely range. The 45 gives most suited connectors reason to call. Villain will call with all of his 66-TT hands. His two broadway combos give him at least a backdoor draw, and even more if he has the FD, or BDFD to go with it. Assuming Villain continues with PP below TP or better, His Ace high hands, All of his draws including gutters, and his two overcard hands, Villain is going to continue on that board texture roughly 70% of the time. This means that we will need at least two barrels to get him off his hand. I prefer a check here and fire the turn if we improve or if Villain checks it back again.

      
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