not many hands on vill so not much info...so far cbet in 3bp is 100...idk out of how many times tho....3bet from sb is 10 (40)

Pacific $200.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 2780259
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Hero (CO): $276.19 - VPIP: 26, PFR: 21, 3B: 9, AF: 3.7, Hands: 579063
BTN: $249.73 - VPIP: 25, PFR: 18, 3B: 7, AF: 2.6, Hands: 4380
SB: $251.13 - VPIP: 26, PFR: 16, 3B: 9, AF: 1.8, Hands: 399
BB: $194.16 - VPIP: 42, PFR: 3, 3B: 1, AF: 1.9, Hands: 754
UTG: $574.26 - VPIP: 25, PFR: 18, 3B: 6, AF: 2.1, Hands: 4660

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is CO with Q J
1 fold, Hero raises to $6, 1 fold, SB raises to $15.25, 1 fold, Hero calls $9.25

Flop: ($32.50) T 9 9 (2 players)
SB bets $16.25, Hero calls $16.25

Turn: ($65.00) J (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $32.50, SB raises to $81.25, Hero calls $48.75

River: ($227.50) 2 (2 players)
SB bets $138.38, Hero folds

When you click the bet button do you think in your head which hands you want to get value from?

Yeah, senseless turnbet imo.

Yeh, X turn is best, although since guy is fishy betting really can't be all that bad as he might be 3bing, betting flop and xing turn with some 10X hands which probably still call since he is fishy. Same goes for like AQ/AK hands that are played weirdly.

Would also checkback Turn.

As played I dont really understand the bet/call Turn and fold on that River.
If hes bluffing then thats the best card ever for us on the River ???

i think you played that bad on the flop also.

There's some value in betting turn... guy will presumably check call some tx. Also folding out 9 outs is never awful. Sucks to get raised with this hand when you bet but don't think that automatically qualifies the bet as bad

Ranges are probably more narrow since cutoff not button. When crs the turn you probably have like 10% equity against his value hands. Don't think many people bluff like that and this guys seems passive

It's not about our hand after turn bet/call it's about ranges. Hero's turn bet/call could be trips full house straight maybe some 1 pair etc. There's a ton of strength represented in a bet/call. If villain had AA and we were looking at this hand from his perspective on the river it would be hard to say river is a trivial shove for value.

Say vil had checked river hero certainly has the option to shiparoo as a bluff

Anyways I think bet/call turn fold river is an okay line. I would probably bet/fold turn without history but the ev of turn bet and check is probably close in a vacuum

Think calling the river is out of the question. If he's bluffing nice job. He's bluffing into a massively strong range

I see whatchu guys means by checking turn. Idk might've thought to bet to protect my hand? But I don't think this is the right spot for that or if it even applies. But yea prolly shoulda taken the free card

Its either for value or as a bluff, 'protection' just means value and what are you betting for value against is the question you have to ask yourself..

Protection doesn't really mean value. Protection is more like "some value, mostly bluff"

Say you are in a hypothetical situation with a hand XX and you have a pair and villain has a range that is almost entirely over cards with only a couple combos of hands that beat you... if his range is like 95% worse hands that always fold and 5% hands that are better and always call, just betting to fold out his equity can be higher EV than checking and you can always improve to a made hand that is better and bluff on later streets as well. Pretty important in HU imo.

^ +1

not sure who coined the term (maybe it was phil galfond ?) but you can sort of think of betting for protection = "clearing equity" mostly + a little bit of value.

For turn value I'm a vacuum, you'd have to bet so small that it's exploitable. This is where you're not protecting yourself.

There are not that many Tx combos in his range that we beat when we hold QJ on 9TJ, and he is obviously never folding better. That makes betting unattractive imo, and if he's one of those guys who likes to x/jam overpairs it's actually a disaster to bet.

check turn

I like a bet/f ott xb river unimproved. I think there are a lot of hands going for x/c ott that we beat. I play 50nl where you almost never see a turn x/r. Not sure how is this at 200nl so maybe x turn is better there.

I disagree. As I mentioned earlier the only obvious x/c candidates that we beat are some Tx, which there are not that many of.

Disagree again. Turn x/jam is more frequent by weaker regs who dislikes postflop imo, and they are more common in lower stakes.