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10-30-2012 , 02:49 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Judas1337
WTF lol
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10-30-2012 , 02:56 AM
Too tired to gif this now, feel free to help:


    Poker Stars, $2/$4, $0.80 ante Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #14347121

    MP: $1,049.88 (262.5 bb)
    CO: $1,392.39 (348.1 bb)
    Hero (BTN): $1,598.45 (399.6 bb)
    SB: $1,117.82 (279.5 bb)
    BB: $462.22 (115.6 bb)
    UTG: $400 (100 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BTN with 2 8 9 6
    3 folds, Hero raises to $10, SB folds, BB calls $6

    Flop: ($26.80) 5 4 9 (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $16, BB calls $16

    Turn: ($58.80) A (2 players)
    BB bets $36, Hero raises to $164.15, BB calls $128.15

    River: ($387.10) 9 (2 players)
    BB bets $271.27, Hero calls $271.27

    Spoiler:
    Results: $929.64 pot ($2.80 rake)
    Final Board: 5 4 9 A 9
    Hero showed 2 8 9 6 and lost (-$462.22 net)
    BB showed A A 8 5 and won $926.84 ($464.62 net)



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    ***Small Stakes PLO BBV THREAD*** Quote
    10-30-2012 , 09:04 AM
    Some sick HS action

      Poker Stars, $200/$400, $80 ante Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 2 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #14348221

      Ilari FIN (BB): $100,000 (250 bb)
      1Il|1Il|1il| (SB): $100,000 (250 bb)

      Preflop:
      1Il|1Il|1il| raises to $1,360, Ilari FIN raises to $4,240, 1Il|1Il|1il| raises to $12,880, Ilari FIN raises to $38,800, 1Il|1Il|1il| raises to $64,720, Ilari FIN raises to $99,920 and is all-in, 1Il|1Il|1il| calls $35,200 and is all-in

      Flop: ($200,000) K 2 T (2 players, 2 are all-in)
      Turn: ($200,000) Q (2 players, 2 are all-in)
      River: ($200,000) T (2 players, 2 are all-in)

      Results: $200,000 pot ($2 rake)
      Final Board: K 2 T Q T
      Ilari FIN showed 2 9 4 7 and won $99,999 (-$1 net)
      1Il|1Il|1il| showed 7 9 3 2 and won $99,999 (-$1 net)



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        Poker Stars, $200/$400, $80 ante Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 2 Players
        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #14348231

        Ilari FIN (BB): $100,000 (250 bb)
        1Il|1Il|1il| (SB): $100,279 (250.7 bb)

        Preflop:
        1Il|1Il|1il| raises to $1,360, Ilari FIN raises to $4,240, 1Il|1Il|1il| raises to $12,880, Ilari FIN raises to $38,800, 1Il|1Il|1il| raises to $100,199 and is all-in, Ilari FIN calls $61,120 and is all-in

        Flop: ($200,000) 3 T 5 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
        Turn: ($200,000) A (2 players, 2 are all-in)
        River: ($200,000) 9 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

        Results: $200,000 pot ($2 rake)
        Final Board: 3 T 5 A 9
        Ilari FIN showed 2 8 3 8 and lost (-$100,000 net)
        1Il|1Il|1il| showed 4 8 T T and won $199,998 ($99,998 net)



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          Poker Stars, $200/$400, $80 ante Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 2 Players
          Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #14348241

          Ilari FIN (SB): $100,000 (250 bb)
          1Il|1Il|1il| (BB): $200,277 (500.7 bb)

          Preflop:
          Ilari FIN raises to $1,360, 1Il|1Il|1il| raises to $4,240, Ilari FIN raises to $12,880, 1Il|1Il|1il| raises to $38,800, Ilari FIN raises to $99,920 and is all-in, 1Il|1Il|1il| calls $61,120

          Flop: ($200,000) 8 4 6 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
          Turn: ($200,000) 8 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
          River: ($200,000) 5 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

          Results: $200,000 pot ($2 rake)
          Final Board: 8 4 6 8 5
          Ilari FIN showed 7 K 4 J and won $199,998 ($99,998 net)
          1Il|1Il|1il| showed 3 Q 2 5 and lost (-$100,000 net)



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            Poker Stars, $200/$400, $80 ante Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 2 Players
            Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #14348251

            Ilari FIN (SB): $200,278 (500.7 bb)
            1Il|1Il|1il| (BB): $99,997 (250 bb)

            Preflop:
            Ilari FIN raises to $1,360, 1Il|1Il|1il| raises to $4,240, Ilari FIN raises to $12,880, 1Il|1Il|1il| raises to $38,800, Ilari FIN raises to $116,560, 1Il|1Il|1il| calls $61,117 and is all-in

            Flop: ($199,994) T 9 J (2 players, 1 is all-in)
            Turn: ($199,994) 5 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
            River: ($199,994) 2 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

            Results: $199,994 pot ($2 rake)
            Final Board: T 9 J 5 2
            Ilari FIN showed 8 2 8 8 and won $199,992 ($99,995 net)
            1Il|1Il|1il| showed Q 7 2 A and lost (-$99,997 net)



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            ***Small Stakes PLO BBV THREAD*** Quote
            10-30-2012 , 02:32 PM
            Quote:
            Originally Posted by Judas1337
            F fishes all the time trying to take my money, guess what f*****s?
            Im the one taking their money and I do lift. So STFU. I pay rake and I talk.

            Come back when u guys have more than 4 figures in ur rolls.
            lol Mr. Tough Guy

            Too dumb too understand that being an obnoxious douchebag at the tables is -EV.

            also lol100kflipaments.
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            10-30-2012 , 04:16 PM
            sick hold for illari in the last hand
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            10-30-2012 , 04:27 PM
            Yourmom -style 1 out of 10..

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            PL Omaha $1(BB) Replayer
            SB ($99)
            BB ($100)
            UTG ($80.35)
            CO ($43)
            Hero ($67.51)

            Dealt to Hero 4 A K 7

            UTG raises to $3, fold, Hero calls $3, fold, fold

            FLOP ($8) 8 2 7

            UTG bets $6, Hero calls $6

            TURN ($20) 8 2 7 Q

            UTG checks, Hero checks

            RIVER ($20) 8 2 7 Q 3

            UTG bets $14, Hero calls $14

            UTG shows T 7 J K
            (Pre 45%, Flop 42.4%, Turn 22.5%)

            Hero shows 4 A K 7
            (Pre 55%, Flop 57.6%, Turn 77.5%)

            Hero wins $45.60
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            10-30-2012 , 06:52 PM
            Quote:
            Originally Posted by Gabethebabe
            lol Mr. Tough Guy

            Too dumb too understand that being an obnoxious douchebag at the tables is -EV.

            also lol100kflipaments.
            ur welcome to sit down at my tables anytime baby
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            10-30-2012 , 06:58 PM
            Quote:
            Originally Posted by Judas1337
            ur welcome to sit down at my tables anytime baby
            am i too? wouldnt want to offend you.
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            10-30-2012 , 07:08 PM
            Quote:
            Originally Posted by Lemay002
            am i too? wouldnt want to offend you.
            I can choin too, but only, if we can support each other after we get ass raped.. Not offending eighter ofc..

            E: and ofc if those tables aren't restricted
            E2: damn I'm editing today
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            10-30-2012 , 07:58 PM
            $0.10/$0.20 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
            5 Players
            Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

            Stacks:
            UTG ($20) 100bb
            Hero (CO) ($20) 100bb
            BTN ($20.83) 104bb
            SB ($20) 100bb
            BB ($21.86) 109bb

            Pre-Flop: ($0.30, 5 players) Hero is CO K 10 A A
            1 fold, Hero raises to $0.70, 1 fold, SB calls $0.60, BB raises to $2.80, Hero raises to $9.10, SB folds, BB calls $6.30

            Flop: 9 A A ($18.70, 2 players)
            BB bets $12.76, Hero goes all-in $10.90

            Turn: 5 ($42.36, 2 players, 1 all-in)

            River: 3 ($42.36, 2 players, 1 all-in)

            Final Pot: $42.36
            BB shows
            Q K 4 Q
            Hero shows
            K 10 A A

            Hero wins $38.67 (net +$18.67)

            BB collects $1.86 (net -$20)
            SB lost $0.80

            sorry jinra, only reason i had to timebank call on the flop was, u see my cat was on the table yeh and didnt want to go down and was blocking my hand....


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            10-30-2012 , 08:03 PM
            Lol, nice one. Sry J.
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            10-30-2012 , 09:28 PM
            Quote:
            Originally Posted by Judas1337
            ur welcome to sit down at my tables anytime baby
            omg you played that hand so well
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            10-30-2012 , 10:48 PM
            Quote:
            Originally Posted by Lemay002
            omg you played that hand so well



            but why u ruin my action@
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            10-30-2012 , 11:23 PM
            Quote:
            Originally Posted by ItsmeMario
            $0.10/$0.20 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
            5 Players
            Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

            Stacks:
            UTG ($20) 100bb
            Hero (CO) ($20) 100bb
            BTN ($20.83) 104bb
            SB ($20) 100bb
            BB ($21.86) 109bb

            Pre-Flop: ($0.30, 5 players) Hero is CO K 10 A A
            1 fold, Hero raises to $0.70, 1 fold, SB calls $0.60, BB raises to $2.80, Hero raises to $9.10, SB folds, BB calls $6.30

            Flop: 9 A A ($18.70, 2 players)
            BB bets $12.76, Hero goes all-in $10.90

            Turn: 5 ($42.36, 2 players, 1 all-in)

            River: 3 ($42.36, 2 players, 1 all-in)

            Final Pot: $42.36
            BB shows
            Q K 4 Q
            Hero shows
            K 10 A A

            Hero wins $38.67 (net +$18.67)

            BB collects $1.86 (net -$20)
            SB lost $0.80
            Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 2 players
            DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

            Hero (BTN/SB): $50.00
            BB: $49.50

            Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN/SB with 6 A A 6
            Hero raises to $1.50, BB raises to $4.50, Hero raises to $13.50, BB calls $9

            Flop: ($27.00) A 8 A (2 players)
            BB checks, Hero bets $4.75, BB raises to $10, Hero calls $5.25

            Turn: ($47.00) Q (2 players)
            BB bets $26 all in, Hero calls $26

            River: ($99.00) 5 (2 players - 1 is all in)

            Final Pot: $99.00
            Hero shows 6 A A 6 (four of a kind, Aces)
            BB shows 8 5 8 6 (a full house, Eights full of Aces)
            Hero wins $98.50
            (Rake: $0.50)
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            10-31-2012 , 04:03 AM
            What's a reasonable bb/100 for PLO25?
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            10-31-2012 , 04:17 AM
            Quote:
            Originally Posted by Nat Bussichio
            What's a reasonable bb/100 for PLO25?
            Anything > 0 ??
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            10-31-2012 , 04:21 AM
            Makes sense, but I was just wondering what was "normal" for winning players.
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            10-31-2012 , 04:25 AM
            PokerStars - $0.10 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 5 players
            Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

            SB: $11.55
            BB: $10.00
            Hero (UTG): $22.91
            CO: $11.11
            BTN: $21.54

            SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

            Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has J Q T 6

            Hero raises to $0.30, CO calls $0.30, fold, fold, BB calls $0.20

            Flop: ($0.95, 3 players) T 6 9
            BB checks, Hero bets $0.66, CO calls $0.66, fold

            Turn: ($2.27, 2 players) A
            Hero checks, CO bets $0.78, Hero raises to $2.68, CO calls $1.90

            River: ($7.63, 2 players) A
            Hero bets $6.69, CO calls $6.69

            Hero shows J Q T 6 (Two Pair, Aces and Tens) (Pre 35%, Flop 70%, Turn 81%)
            CO mucks K J 6 Q (Two Pair, Aces and Sixes) (Pre 65%, Flop 30%, Turn 19%)
            Hero wins $20.06
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            10-31-2012 , 04:36 AM
            Hero (SB): $50 (100 bb)
            BB: $37 (74 bb)
            UTG: $118.74 (237.5 bb)
            MP: $49 (98 bb)
            CO: $142.34 (284.7 bb)
            BTN: $105.38 (210.8 bb)

            Preflop: Hero is SB with 2 J A A


            2 folds, CO raises to $1.75



            BTN folds, Hero raises to $5.75



            BB folds, CO raises to $17.75



            Hero raises to $50 and is all-in, CO calls $32.25
            CO shows T T K K



            Flop: ($100.50) T 6 3 (2 players, 1 is all-in)



            Turn: ($100.50) J (2 players, 1 is all-in)



            River: ($100.50) A (2 players, 1 is all-in)



            Results: $100.50 pot ($2.50 rake)
            Final Board: T 6 3 J A
            Hero showed 2 J A A and won $98 ($48 net)
            CO showed T T K K and lost (-$50 net)
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            10-31-2012 , 07:02 AM
            how much do people win in EP? ive just noticed im breakeven in EP. over tiny sample; 500k hands, but still, makes me think id be doing better opening AAXXds alone by a decent amount
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            10-31-2012 , 07:05 AM
            Not sure by how much but I'd say you should be winning seeing as you open the strongest part of your range here.
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            10-31-2012 , 07:13 AM
            lol yeah maybe i should start doing that
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            10-31-2012 , 08:04 AM
            Guy buys in 50bb HU.

            play spewy aggro styles 3bet 50% raise 100% buttons.

            Flats a 3bet with AAxx dubble sooted 50bb deep.

            Calls remainder of stack on tha flop vs 2 pair and sucks out.

            NEXT HAND: limps tha button.

            True Story.
            ***Small Stakes PLO BBV THREAD*** Quote
            10-31-2012 , 08:37 AM
            Quote:
            Originally Posted by Nat Bussichio
            What's a reasonable bb/100 for PLO25?
            Quote:
            Originally Posted by Gabethebabe
            Anything > 0 ??
            Not exactly. With a winrate close to zero, the risk of ruin is close to 100%. Paradoxically, to make the risk of ruin reasonable, one should put some winnings by to fund the bankroll, even if moving up isn't planned.

            The approximate formula for the risk of ruin R with a bankroll B and a known winrate w playing a cash game with variance V is R=exp(-2wB/V). E.g., if the standard deviation is 130 bb/100 (and hence the variance, its square, is 16900), the pure winrate (with rakeback included, life expenses and taxes excluded) is 2 bb/100, the bankroll needed to ensure a risk of ruin smaller than 0.05 (5%) is B=-Vln(R)/(2w)~-12757 bb, i.e. 130 BI are needed. But if the winrate is 5 bb/100, ~50 BI will suffice. Hence if one can frugally save several bb/100 to fund the roll, the poker career will be more likely to succeed.

            In the real situation where the winrate is unknown - there are only Bayesian assumptions in what range it most likely is - the formula is too complicated to be used imho, it can be found in an excellent book 'The Mathematics of Poker' by Bill Chen and Jerrod Ankerman, Jerrod also has a game theory well on 2+2.
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            10-31-2012 , 08:49 AM
            You forget to factor in rakeback. If you have good rakeback and your winrate after rake is 0 then you're actually making up to 15bb/100 depending on how loose you play. Then your risk of ruin is close to 0% if you're properly rolled.
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