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01-31-2013 , 06:13 AM
no able to chat with you lover woman jan82pokerbotv7 but sometime have to make sub optimal plays because the joy of stacking you is way greater than losing sometimes

i also commend you on your ability to play aces
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01-31-2013 , 06:22 AM


perfectly fine with me.
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01-31-2013 , 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by ChicagoJoey
no able to chat with you lover woman jan82pokerbotv7 but sometime have to make sub optimal plays because the joy of stacking you is way greater than losing sometimes

i also commend you on your ability to play aces
way better to make subotimal plays that hurt their ev. like not isoing them when they need it. there are many ways.
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01-31-2013 , 08:44 AM
tbh jan is only at table usually less then 10 hands so will 3bet top 85 percent of hands typically when she is in hand
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01-31-2013 , 08:48 AM
I am not a she but keep playing that expert strategy. Works out pretty well for me so far.
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01-31-2013 , 08:50 AM
also: if sb has that seating script, using it on the likes of retej would be fun...
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01-31-2013 , 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by pokerbot_v7
I am not a she but keep playing that expert strategy. Works out pretty well for me so far.
I no mind either, I either win hand vs you or I lose hand and when I start to quit I play till I make that extra buy in back


mattt you confuse me with last post, and don't think I know you or china sn but i assume one of you is makemer1ch this whole time but unsure which one
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01-31-2013 , 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ChicagoJoey
tbh jan is only at table usually less then 10 hands so will 3bet top 85 percent of hands typically when she is in hand
can't believe this guy still exists all these years later, I used to play NL with him at 3/6, he's an OG megabumhunter
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01-31-2013 , 01:56 PM
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was given the following image by skjervoy. Im posting it instead of him because he felt like he would be whining by posting it. But i think its enough to be considered strong evidence:



The first 3 accounts listed are suspected bleznick accounts. The last account listed is barcode just as a frame of reference to what a different regular's stats looks like. the stats on the first 3 accounts are ridiculously similar over those sample sizes. the 3bet stat alone is enough to show its the same person cause nobody else plays like that, but combined with everything else its pretty damning.

this is the closest thing we have to "evidence". everything else is a story, a rumor, stuff that is very likely to be true but we have no way to prove any of it. like me saying noobmare sat with my buddy in HU 2-7 (who wont play harrington), calls a raise and draws 5 and says "oh i thought this was a different game?" then starts playing like a beast. or some random account coming in and telling my friend "wow im sitting with phil galfond!" then 3betting 40% of hands HU. or gozoboro sits at the same table with longerpig, longerpig sits out waits a few minutes then logs off to make a smooth transition between them to make it seem like they are different people.

i hate being a whistleblower, and i really cant say i have a problem with someone playing on stars from the states. if someone has found a way to beat the ****ty system that the us government has imposed on us i would never snitch on them. what i do have a problem with is when someone has 9+ accounts on 2 sites and is constantly rotating through them, sitting on the same table with them and chatting like a fish to try to throw off the scent and playing people who would not sit HU with harrington if they had any clue who it is. i have friends in PLO and 2-7 that are being screwed by him coming up with these new accounts from different countries all the time. its at the point where my friends feel they cannot play new accounts that may be fish because they suspect it might be/probably is harrington.

i no longer play high stakes and dont have incentive other than watching my friends not get screwed to post this stuff. and ive always been kinda friendly with jared when i saw him so i didnt want to come out and blast him, but its gone too far. guy is too good of a player to get an advantage this big. **** he might be the best PLO player in the world. and you guys who play high stakes do nothing about it. dont get it

whoever has played HU against those 3 accounts should get together, pool all the hands you guys have with them and try to get a database of 5k+ hands on each guy to try and work the stat argument more. it would be helpful if stars would do it but they clearly feel their hands are tied and wont do more.
What do you guys think?
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01-31-2013 , 04:06 PM
I think people should figure out how to beat this guy instead of bitching about what account he is on or present a solution.
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01-31-2013 , 04:18 PM
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I think people should figure out how to beat this guy instead of bitching about what account he is on or present a solution.
How can you figure out how to beat someone when you don't know it's him playing?
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01-31-2013 , 04:21 PM
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How can you figure out how to beat someone when you don't know it's him playing?
So you never play against an account readless?
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01-31-2013 , 04:30 PM
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So you never play against an account readless?
Multi accounting much too ?
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01-31-2013 , 05:28 PM
I've never played on another account nor had someone play on mine. I have also been the (likely) victim of MA in HU matches with a very prominent name here on 2p2. The issue is at the end of the day, you decide to play poker against some unknown person(s) or bot that is clicking buttons somewhere else in the world. If you can't handle that it's possible the person on the other end is better than you, then you should quit the game.
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01-31-2013 , 05:39 PM
Its different to play someone readless that havent played you either and someone trying to act like a fish, while gaining a huge edge by plaing you under another account. The issue is not about being able to beat a random account straight up, its about cheating to gain unfair advantage against the ToC of the pokerside you play on. In the end of the day thats the laws we are suppose to follow.

Theoretically you play headsup everyday, once a month someone that knows you very well and plays in a way that need very special adjustments play you under a new account each time. How is that ok?
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01-31-2013 , 05:44 PM
I'm not saying it is okay. It is obviously shady. My point is how does anyone propose to fix it?
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01-31-2013 , 05:49 PM
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I'm not saying it is okay. It is obviously shady. My point is how does anyone propose to fix it?
Daut presented a proposition in his post.
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01-31-2013 , 05:52 PM
I don't see it. I guess you mean getting a DB together, but that will have 0 effect on future accounts.
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01-31-2013 , 05:57 PM
If sites are able to detect and confiscate/redistribute funds, ban all accounts from players involved and try to get them banned from (at least their own) live mtt series it should make it less attractive to cheat.

Fingerprint or webcam (chinaski proposed it somewhere with discussion)security and random visits (like Pokerstars did for people they suspected was bots) on Highstakes ftw.

Last edited by blopp; 01-31-2013 at 06:16 PM.
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01-31-2013 , 06:40 PM
problem with fingerprint is once you login its free game. if there are 3 people in a room its obv very simple. playing from a remote location is not hard either. webcam would be best but there are probably ways around that too
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01-31-2013 , 07:03 PM
I assume fingerprint is detecting your finger all the time and if it cant for y time you get warning message. Obvs huge warning sign of any account that get very weird and usal fingerprint scans.
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01-31-2013 , 09:19 PM
I wouldn't be too concerned if I was getting multi-accounted if it meant I got to play vs a >40% 3-bettor all day.

Last edited by ALL1N; 01-31-2013 at 09:45 PM.
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02-01-2013 , 12:04 AM
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I wouldn't be too concerned if I was getting multi-accounted if it meant I got to play vs a >40% 3-bettor all day.
lol that's what I thought too, but what the hell everybody seems to think harrington is the best player all around or wtf. 50%+ 3bet and people are concerned about him multi accounting, I surely missed something about oop play. Anybody cares to teach me please?
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02-01-2013 , 12:12 AM
Fingerprint scanner would give Tom Cruise and Daniel Craig too much of an unfair advantage, I feel.
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02-01-2013 , 02:25 AM
Ultimately you're a moron if you're playing total unknowns who appear out of nowhere at HS HU matches, but sometimes people's egos get the best of them, and then guys like harrington and urindanger take off with the millions. The only reason I don't like this is because it takes money that could be mine. It's certainly much more unfair to the ring games, at least in HU you can just... sit out!

ps. there are no real solutions to this problem
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