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12-10-2016 , 07:30 AM
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12-10-2016 , 07:34 AM
Someone mentioned PurpleK

I think the likelihood of him being a bot is incredibly low. He has put in SNE volume for years now and has tried different strategies a couple of times in terms of gameplay. I don't think him going away for 5 months and coming back playing different is that unusual. I've also met him IRL before which might not matter that much.
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12-10-2016 , 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by ChicagoJoey
Someone mentioned PurpleK

I think the likelihood of him being a bot is incredibly low. He has put in SNE volume for years now and has tried different strategies a couple of times in terms of gameplay. I don't think him going away for 5 months and coming back playing different is that unusual. I've also met him IRL before which might not matter that much.

afaics the accusations are centered by collusion, not so much by automated play. could be a combination of both ofc.

Last edited by MATT111; 12-10-2016 at 09:07 AM.
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12-10-2016 , 10:32 AM
I don't know if I should laugh or get angry. I am one of the regs that played the most and lost the most against seregaxx and fedorsaysev last year and now I am being accused of being a cheater myself.
Pastafiore, I appreciate the fact you are still looking for bots so we all have better games but accusing me is just ridicilous. I know you dislike me a lot and I might have won a lot vs you lately because of some rungood vs you and your bad plays. It feels for me like that has something to do with it and you are just a bit paranoid. Correct me if I am wrong.

If there is a way to proof to you guys I am not cheating feel free to tell me. I would share stats if necessary and I would PM graph's including results to some regs if they ask me to. I saw you guys mentioning that my red line would have to go up like crazy, but mine actually goes down.

There are enough midstakes + highstakes regs that could vouch for me since I have been living in Malta for over 3 years and have met some guys in real life during EPT Barcelona and Malta.

I have been traveling for the past 3 weeks and was really looking forward to playing again. It would be nice if you guys are convinced I am not doing whatever I am being accused of.

By the way, I can't imagine PurpleK is a cheater. About the other nicknames I don't know.
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12-10-2016 , 10:44 AM


These hands are 100% PLO200 on normal tables at Pokerstars since 1.1.2014.

So have I been getting gangbanged by the bots while trying to move up in stakes or am I just salty? Is there a way for me to check how I have ran in EV against certain players in PT4?
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12-10-2016 , 10:49 AM
Yso is def NOT a bot, know him irl for a few years and hang out frequently. Im p86ba btw.
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12-10-2016 , 10:50 AM
those aren't hands played against me, i bought hands online from ********. just watch the graphs, and feel free to explain. im not saying youre a bot, this is about card sharing, and its really arlaming how your graphs do mach with already banned botring. those are gyazo links, so those graphs cant be modified. i admit that at least purple's nick was suprising even for me. however purple is not good enough to beat even rake without cheating --> card sharing makes sense. yso is only player on the graphs who's good enough to beat rake without cheating imo.
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12-10-2016 , 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by TIMMEH
Yso is def NOT a bot, know him irl for a few years and hang out frequently. Im p86ba btw.
it does not matter if you know him irl, this is about card sharing, and possibly botting on some accounts. guys behind the botring are professional players, so all just makes sense. dont be naive. already banned ring did chat and adjust too, so none of colluding accounts do play 100% as a bot all the time at least.
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12-10-2016 , 11:13 AM
yoyo blackfortuna here, I can vouch for y.o.s.43 too, met him in real life in barca, he didnt strive as a bot one bit, he also hangs with some highstakes plo guys so it would be very weird for him to be a bot.
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12-10-2016 , 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Igobustosoon

I have been living in Malta for over 3 years and have met some guys in real life during EPT Barcelona and Malta.
I'm one of them. I met y.s.o43 in malta and barcelona, so i conform that he isn't a bot.
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12-10-2016 , 11:27 AM
this is about card sharing, and even people who do make friends, are as possible to be cheating as ppl who dont have friends. i dont know have yso played as a bot, or just card sharing or is my HEM just broken(?). i'd like more regs sent their db's for me to bust all accounts, now sofar only 2 have.
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12-10-2016 , 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by yoyoplo
yoyo blackfortuna here, I can vouch for y.o.s.43 too, met him in real life in barca, he didnt strive as a bot one bit, he also hangs with some highstakes plo guys so it would be very weird for him to be a bot.
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Originally Posted by magiet12
I'm one of them. I met y.s.o43 in malta and barcelona, so i conform that he isn't a bot.


I dont get it. Knowing someone IRL does not prove or disprove anything. Also we are mostly talking about collusion here.

Vouching is quite a strong word, so be wary of when you vouch for someone. Meeting him once and seeing him hanging around high stakes player is not a good enough reason to vouch for someone.

I am not accusing y.o.s.43 with this post. Just trying to make a point about vouching
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12-10-2016 , 11:36 AM
Added Pastafiore on skype, will give him my database or whatever he needs to prove I am not cheating.
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12-10-2016 , 11:38 AM
if yso hasnt shared cards, i dot see a reson why he did not post his graphs from own db with same filters.
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12-10-2016 , 11:57 AM
https://gyazo.com/98720cdac6de56d87a3751503867172a

I applied the same filters here right? I am not a hold em manager geek.
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12-10-2016 , 12:32 PM
"this year". ppl arent that stupid. my graphs arent from this year. why did you filter other stakes off, and graph is in winnings instead of bbs?

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12-10-2016 , 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ryytis


These hands are 100% PLO200 on normal tables at Pokerstars since 1.1.2014.

So have I been getting gangbanged by the bots while trying to move up in stakes or am I just salty? Is there a way for me to check how I have ran in EV against certain players in PT4?
that's just a normal variance at plo, ive ran more above/below ev in past and in less amount of hands. 50 bi brm is not enough at midstakes. but it's still ilkely that colluders have something to do with this too.

colluders do run below ev in some spots on purpose, to not get busted. at least they dont run a lot above ev, but they still have extra edge in card sharing. if they'd maximaze their advantage in card sharing, they'd instantly get busted.
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12-10-2016 , 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Pastafiore
"this year". ppl arent that stupid. my graphs arent from this year. why did you filter other stakes off, and graph is in winnings instead of bbs?
You are such a big clown lmao. If you think it's okay to post on 2+2 that I am a cheater at least have the decency to respond to my PM and accept me on Skype so we can talk about it and I can prove you however you want that I don't cheat. You are a paranoid dumb f*ck and should go to a mental hospital. Maybe you should learn to play PLO a bit better so you don't have to look for excuses why you are losing. I am no longer gonna defend myself here, believe it or don't I don't care.
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12-10-2016 , 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Igobustosoon
You are such a big clown lmao. If you think it's okay to post on 2+2 that I am a cheater at least have the decency to respond to my PM and accept me on Skype so we can talk about it and I can prove you however you want that I don't cheat. You are a paranoid dumb f*ck and should go to a mental hospital. Maybe you should learn to play PLO a bit better so you don't have to look for excuses why you are losing. I am no longer gonna defend myself here, believe it or don't I don't care.
i don't see a reason for that why you need to prove something only for me instead of public? i just posted arlaming graphs from big db. what's so hard to put those filters right, and post few graphs? it takes as much time as ~30seconds. its not my fault, if hem shows that graphs about your alias so dont blame me. and if it now takes long from you to post now those graphs, im pretty sure you are just trying to modify your db somehow.

you sound like seregax when i did warm him in chat btw. i still dont say youre same person.
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12-10-2016 , 02:45 PM
and you still have absolutely zero reasons to go crazy if youre legit player, it would be very easy to prove my graphs wrong, as i said it takes less than a minute.
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12-10-2016 , 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Igobustosoon
You are such a big clown lmao. If you think it's okay to post on 2+2 that I am a cheater at least have the decency to respond to my PM and accept me on Skype so we can talk about it and I can prove you however you want that I don't cheat. You are a paranoid dumb f*ck and should go to a mental hospital. Maybe you should learn to play PLO a bit better so you don't have to look for excuses why you are losing. I am no longer gonna defend myself here, believe it or don't I don't care.
100% talk of the cheater.

Confess and go away, thanks. Trust me, it's the best thing u can do. U can't prove ur honesty and tell lies at the same time and u know it.
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12-10-2016 , 10:10 PM
Sorry to say, but the graphs posted proves nothing. Most people who knows a bit about statistics would know that.
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12-11-2016 , 12:33 AM
If we informed Stars of this suspicion. Would they at least put a hold on withdrawals? Doesn't seem right that Stars has no liability and can allow cheaters withdraw funds and then perform a "too late" investigation, confirm our suspicions and then reimburse pennies on the dollar of what was lost.

Off topic but this is why I think being licensed under a gaming commission is total bull****.


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12-11-2016 , 01:13 AM
if collusion is being suggested, shouldn't those graphs be filtered to only include hands with the other suspected accounts? Stillfan plays very different (weak/worse) than the others also
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12-11-2016 , 01:38 AM
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Sorry to say, but the graphs posted proves nothing. Most people who knows a bit about statistics would know that.
What could another explanation be?

Is Pasta simply grouping together accounts that have run like god?
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