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03-16-2014 , 12:17 AM
this was kinda fun too:



    Poker Stars, $25/$50 No Limit Omaha Cash, 4 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #24897621

    mammasaidtko (BTN): $3,238 (64.8 bb)
    Hero (SB): $5,348 (107 bb)
    kanaris9 (BB): $1,730 (34.6 bb)
    A.Saout (CO): $10,704.53 (214.1 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with T 9 Q J
    A.Saout raises to $150, mammasaidtko folds, Hero raises to $500, kanaris9 folds, A.Saout calls $350

    Flop: ($1,050) 9 2 8 (2 players)
    Hero bets $700, A.Saout calls $700

    Turn: ($2,450) 7 (2 players)
    Hero checks, A.Saout bets $1,600, Hero raises to $4,148 and is all-in, A.Saout calls $2,548

    River: ($10,746) 6 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

    Spoiler:
    Results: $10,746 pot ($2 rake)
    Final Board: 9 2 8 7 6
    Hero showed T 9 Q J and won $10,744 ($5,396 net)
    A.Saout mucked K J K 9 and lost (-$5,348 net)



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    03-16-2014 , 12:29 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by GoGetaRealJob
    this was kinda fun too:



      Poker Stars, $25/$50 No Limit Omaha Cash, 4 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #24897621

      mammasaidtko (BTN): $3,238 (64.8 bb)
      Hero (SB): $5,348 (107 bb)
      kanaris9 (BB): $1,730 (34.6 bb)
      A.Saout (CO): $10,704.53 (214.1 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with T 9 Q J
      A.Saout raises to $150, mammasaidtko folds, Hero raises to $500, kanaris9 folds, A.Saout calls $350

      Flop: ($1,050) 9 2 8 (2 players)
      Hero bets $700, A.Saout calls $700

      Turn: ($2,450) 7 (2 players)
      Hero checks, A.Saout bets $1,600, Hero raises to $4,148 and is all-in, A.Saout calls $2,548

      River: ($10,746) 6 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

      Spoiler:
      Results: $10,746 pot ($2 rake)
      Final Board: 9 2 8 7 6
      Hero showed T 9 Q J and won $10,744 ($5,396 net)
      A.Saout mucked K J K 9 and lost (-$5,348 net)



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      Nice lineup
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      03-16-2014 , 01:20 AM
      jesus ggjar are u even playing good man?
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      03-16-2014 , 01:23 AM
      Also, I think all this urubu hate is really unjustified and stupid. I'm sure his backer had some idea of what he was getting into when he picked up urubu; a guy who prints money (I sometimes wonder how, so tight urubu!) at midstakes, and occasionally blasts off on monkey tilt. He had a terrible session, and he wanted to post some funny hands for our benefit. Whats the big deal? As long as he dosen't do this too much he is going to print money this year. Oh and if u do it again soon plz pm tho
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      03-16-2014 , 01:39 AM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by dankness3
      jesus ggjar are u even playing good man?
      Haha, my style does make for funky graphs. Gotto take into account the 200k I've taken off the tables w/o showdown. Obv not expecting the EV to suck that much, gonna be interesting to see if it persists.

      Was still easy enough to get a positive EV at midstakes with so many spew-monkies and weak regs about, but def been tougher for me at 10/20+ where people actually adjust to my style, lol
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      03-16-2014 , 03:17 AM
      ggjar you make redline videos anywhere? would you say the redline is mostly from HU?
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      03-16-2014 , 03:19 AM
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      Originally Posted by StarsRegProblems
      U were the one I was referring to... So, u don't think his backer is watching?
      I doubt the backer was watching him during those hands and was like, "Cool light my money on fire bro, because that's what you do and you are up life time..." I don't really care about Urubu's business or his staker I just don't want to hear the bull**** about it being a leak. Like it is ok for every degen to blow their stakers money on tilt, flips, and blackjack because hey, "it's just a leak."
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by dankness3
      Also, I think all this urubu hate is really unjustified and stupid
      I tried to clarify it isn't Urubu hate. I wish nothing but the best for him. I was just insulted he called it a "leak." Under most standard backing agreements (he may have something special) flipping off money or throwing away money on purpose is stealing IMO.
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      03-16-2014 , 03:41 AM
      GGARJ, I'm shocked that you're up only 100K this year. Seriously, I was expectig figures in the 300-500 range.
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      03-16-2014 , 05:35 AM
      Who is gogetarealjob in stars?
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      03-16-2014 , 06:02 AM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by charder30
      Who is gogetarealjob in stars?
      Tapinastii

      Hoopman is spot on with his comments, and I also have nothing against Urubu...
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      03-16-2014 , 06:47 AM
      hoopman and i have had our differences but i very much agree with him on this one
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      03-16-2014 , 06:59 AM
      i love hoopman like a brother and i agree with him
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      03-16-2014 , 08:32 AM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by gwai lo
      ggjar you make redline videos anywhere? would you say the redline is mostly from HU?
      Team CardRunners bids you welcome

      Nope, def extends to 6max too

      Quote:
      Originally Posted by charder30
      Who is gogetarealjob in stars?
      If you listened to Joey's podcast, you'd know I'm "tappanista", hehe
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      03-16-2014 , 12:40 PM
      lol tappi, what a sick graph. nice red line and must be nice running that good... how it feels?
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      03-16-2014 , 12:46 PM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by GoGetaRealJob
      Spoiler:

      200k redline, 200k above EV!

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      03-16-2014 , 01:04 PM
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      Originally Posted by Hoopman20
      That's not a leak, that's just not respecting your staker. Blowing off money on blackjack or flips is a leak or a problem if it is your own money... it's stealing when you do it with your stakers money for anything other than what they staked you for. This is pretty close IMO. I always though you were a cool guy with some flipping problems but it's pretty close to scum level to be dumping off stakers money like this and then posting it for the lulz in a public forum. If it truly was a leak because you have such emotional issues you can't throw away your stakers money surely you would be so ashamed of it you would tell your staker immediately and feel horrible about what you did... not post in 2+2 bragging about how it's in your arsenal to play -ev on purpose while being staked. You tilt/flip off your roll and then someone comes and stakes you to help you get back on your feet and this is how you show your gratitude? You are one step above giving a loan to a drug addict... barely.
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      Originally Posted by Hoopman20
      I didn't say anything whatsoever about Urubu's PLO game. I am merely disgusted that he uses his stakers money to degen and brags about it. This is a public forum and if anyone reads this **** and thinks that is not stealing or in anyway "ok" to do when being staked I want to set that record straight. If Urubu and his backers have a good relationship and they don't mind him doing this that is between them, but as it comes across ITT it is disgusting and I hope no one in a stake agreement follows Urubu's example and begins to feel like this is just a "leak." Unless you have an agreement that it is ok (maybe Urubu does IDK), if you do this to your staker it is not a leak. It is stealing. That was my point.
      im not playing -ev on purpose, im not using my backers money to degen. and obvious, im not stealing... you are saying that you saying im stealing my backers money, and some people agree w you... lol wtf ?

      i agree w you that going on tilt monkey while playing staked is bad, i def shouldnt do that. but happenned... i will do my best to dont happen again.

      dont say im stealing or that i dont care about my backers money. you dont know how i felt after going on tilt.
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      03-16-2014 , 01:48 PM
      Its funny to me how when this dude was losing hundreds of thousands of his own money flipping all anyone had to say was "vamos" and "legend" and "gooo urubu". Now he loses 10k in an awful tilt session and all of a sudden everyone is high and mighty? u guys really are too much..
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      03-16-2014 , 02:01 PM
      are non sd winnings built into EV adjusted winnings? like you win a 1k pot without SD, your EV adjusted winnings go +1k, right?
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      03-16-2014 , 02:11 PM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by urubu111
      dont say im stealing or that i dont care about my backers money. you dont know how i felt after going on tilt.
      I don't know what your agreement is with your backer so I can't accuse you of anything, but if you have a standard stake agreement then what you did is stealing from your backer regardless of what you or your backer think. It doesn't matter how pissed off you were. If you got pissed and took money from your backer and spent it on blow and hookers would that be stealing or is that just tilt also because I don't know how bad you felt? On top of that you had the nerve to brag about it to everyone in a post. Did you expect everyone to just say, "Great job stealing your backers money!" Sorry. You might be going through rough times and you might have tilt issues but at some point you have to realize you can't be an ******* to OTHER PEOPLE because of YOUR issues. 99.99% (maybe 100%?) of rapists, murderers, and child molesters have personal issues and demons they can't get past also. That doesn't excuse their behavior and make it acceptable for them to cause damages to other people. Lighting your backers money on fire because you were upset is an azzhole move and you should have immediatly called them in shame, shared the HH, and told them how disappointed you were with yourself... instead you went to 2+2 and thought throwing your backers money away in multiple hands would make for an awesome post... you must be really remorseful.

      Quote:
      Originally Posted by dankness3
      all anyone had to say was "vamos" and "legend" and "gooo urubu"
      actually a lot of people were telling him to never flip again and to go get help. I'm sure you can search through some of my posts and find one. It is two completely different subjects though. I don't get angry at people for doing drugs or blowing money. But stealing or dropping some drugs in someone elses drink is a lot different.

      TLDR... Yes, in a standard agreement to get backed for poker what you did is stealing. I don't know if you have a standard agreement or not. No I didn't think it was cool when you were flipping off all your money.
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      03-16-2014 , 02:19 PM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by dankness3
      Its funny to me how when this dude was losing hundreds of thousands of his own money flipping all anyone had to say was "vamos" and "legend" and "gooo urubu". Now he loses 10k in an awful tilt session and all of a sudden everyone is high and mighty? u guys really are too much..
      If you don't see the distinction between degeneracy with your own money and degeneracy whilst on a stake… Well, that is your mistake
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      03-16-2014 , 02:22 PM
      wtf is this thread now
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      03-16-2014 , 02:37 PM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by Praetor
      are non sd winnings built into EV adjusted winnings? like you win a 1k pot without SD, your EV adjusted winnings go +1k, right?
      yes
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      03-16-2014 , 02:48 PM
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      Originally Posted by ChicagoJoey
      wtf is this thread now
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      03-16-2014 , 03:10 PM
      we could do a 10 hour podcast together discussing only gif's
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      03-16-2014 , 03:23 PM
      Lol this thread is getting WAY TOO REAL. Urubu made 15k on the stake this month, playing relatively low limits. I see where you guys are coming from, but I think your all overreacting.
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