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06-09-2013 , 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Kirbynator
wait youre yussef? you played 1.6m hands in a year and a half?!

And youve barely made 100k?!

jesus christ. And youre good too.

holy ****. And people wonder why everyone is bumhunting o_o ... Sickening graph man.

the bb/100 must be low for that many hands, while the evbb100 is probably good.

iirc that is the career graph but not sure how much before last year besides the 3 months we played together at 2/4

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Originally Posted by Simonsayscall
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okay I think I have a breakdown for this graph too and I think I found out what happen


hand 0-25k yous is living in west sydney in moms basement and going to uni and decides to put some money on stars in his free time and play plo at low stakes


hand 25k-195k yous is hard worker and puts in many hours while getting better at the game and moving up the stakes while focusing primarily on uni. As he moves up he sees the craziest ****ing plays ever keep winning and thinks these are the best plays so he adds them to his arsenal and works for him too.


hand 195k-596k yous starts playing 200/400 and meets joeingram1 and starts terrorizing his life for 12 hours a day for 3 months straight by winning 15bis for every 1 he loses. Is starting to become known for his patented move of cold calling the SB with hands like J863ds and keeps winning when he b/c's gutter+fds while also calling 85 percent of cbets IP and always having it at showdown when all in. Eventually starts to add in some 600plo and then when everyone checks his PTR, then refreshes it 30 times because they think something is wrong or they are not understanding how he is a 10ptbb winner at all stakes, a few threads are made on 2p2 asking if he is superuser or who this guy is. This goes on for a few months until


hand 596k yous shot takes 50/100 and drops 200k, some suspect the account did this to throw off the superuser tracks. At some point yous discovers 2p2 and reads all the things people have been saying about his game and how he does so many terrible things and laughs to himself that everyone is a ****ing idiot.

Hand 610k-781k yous gets back on the horse at midstakes and starts putting in mad volume again, he isnt winning 8bis for ever 1 he loses now and starts questioning his play and watches some Phil Galfond videos on BFP and reading more strategy content threads


Hand 781k-966k yous works hard and starts cold calling 3b's with a bit stronger range from the SB and BTN and is folding to a bit more flop cbets. It is around this time yous and joe start playing more at 5/10 & 10/20 and yous isn't winning 90 percent of the allins any more


Hand 977k-1.56mm yous can't win a hand at the high stakes, realizes its much easier to win all ins at midstakes vs fish whos accounts run bad anad against regs who have run bad forever. Keeps getting all in vs guys like Johan (2k BI above ev last year), Lautie, Donk Predator, jeans, verve, azn baller, ocrop. There is a reason these guys play high and its not because they lose all ins. He has been reading way to many strategy threads and watching too many Stinger videos on Cardrunners, he abandon's everything that got him to this point (folding to cbets at a normal rate, not cold calling 3bets from the SB 30 percent, cold calling 3b's with hands like J1097ds from IP instead of from SB) Countless months of reading how terrible he plays and wtf is he doing has finally got to him, coupled with the not winning he is altering play completely. Phil Galfond opens up runitonce and yous study's barcodes, isildroon and phils videos hard and goes on massive upswing then down then up then down. He was last seen on a really good upswing after joining the runitonce forums and reading threads for hours/hours a day while throwing Uni to the side
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06-09-2013 , 05:46 AM
Hahahah extensive. Pretty much everything you wrote with relation to galfond etc isn't true though.. Changed my game up in a big way to lower variance...... Fail.
Ps if Johan actually ran 2k bi over ev that is so f sick... I would have assumed level but since I've been so far under ev for so long maybe there is someone out there running that good
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06-09-2013 , 05:58 AM
haha, sometimes at this time of day on the untracked euro sites there isnt much running above 200plo so get really bored and write. Thought I nailed it though in regards to changing up the game after you got on 2p2 though. We never get to see alot of other HS graphs to see the people that are running good (not posted rightfully so to not curse the plo gods). I forgot about Odds almost up 4mm, i hope you arent playing with him alot
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06-09-2013 , 06:00 AM
Plz post graph in BBs...

Im down more in EV$ than u (have posted graphs somewhere just cant remember where on 2+2) and its on WAAAY less hands... When I used to put the graph in BBs I was running to EV... So like u prob massive runbad at highstakes..
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06-09-2013 , 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by AlexKP
Plz post graph in BBs...

Im down more in EV$ than u (have posted graphs somewhere just cant remember where on 2+2) and its on WAAAY less hands... When I used to put the graph in BBs I was running to EV... So like u prob massive runbad at highstakes..
How in the world can you of all people complain about running bad.

GTFO
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06-09-2013 , 06:37 AM
Hehe, everytime i loose a flip against Youssef i think to myself "that motherf*** luckbox". The image of your first 500k is just inprinted in my head Just checked and in my db your running below EV indeed, so its rediculous that i still have that image of you.

People asking for graphs in bb's... I think that will be an awsome graph. But over the total period its probably not that bad because of his massive upswing in the first 500k hands at like 1-2 / 2-4.

Gl youssef, hope you get your deserved lucky run soon.

Plo variance is just so unimaginable big, esp if you start mixing limits a lot.
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06-09-2013 , 07:07 AM
alexkp you have like 700k in tournament winnings with multiple six figure scores in $200 buy in tournaments...

plus i'm more below ev than u... just coz u like to mention it so much

Last edited by Doorbread; 06-09-2013 at 07:16 AM. Reason: what do i win now
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06-09-2013 , 08:25 AM
Lol joeri talking about losing flips

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06-09-2013 , 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Simonsayscall
Ps if Johan actually ran 2k bi over ev that is so f sick... I would have assumed level but since I've been so far under ev for so long maybe there is someone out there running that good
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06-09-2013 , 10:29 AM
how long does sunday warmup last roughly?
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06-09-2013 , 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by drexah
loool this. i don't even play plo but this thread is a must subscribe. sry tj
+1, I play almost exclusively NL but now dabble in PLO (I suck at it but can beat droolers), some days you can walk on water others you wanna tear your hair out, so I come here to remind me to not take it too serious and focus on NL.

Props to sticking at it, im not built of that kind of stuff.
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06-09-2013 , 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by TGSM89
how long does sunday warmup last roughly?
10-12 hrs.
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06-09-2013 , 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by MauriceSch
How in the world can you of all people complain about running bad.

GTFO
Cuz im 6-700.000$+ under EV in PLO on the graph ive posted on 2+2 and on the com I have now... And havent even got the graph where Isildur ran 200k+ over EV when he started PLO 100/200 on ipoker YEARS ago...


And dont get me started on the nosebleed games in Macau...
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06-09-2013 , 05:44 PM
We all feel really bad for you and think you're the best.

We don't need to get you started bc you'll start anyway.
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06-09-2013 , 07:03 PM
Biggest bb pot this year... Obv lost both runs...



    Poker Stars, $5/$10, $2 ante Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #17844652

    zinc2zinc (MP): $713.95 (71.4 bb)
    maia673 (CO): $2,624.31 (262.4 bb)
    St1ckman (BTN): $6,603.68 (660.4 bb)
    Hero (SB): $6,193.36 (619.3 bb)
    ISILDRooN (BB): $3,485.97 (348.6 bb)
    Sira Al Aziz (UTG): $3,318.27 (331.8 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with 8 K K 7
    3 folds, St1ckman raises to $21.50, Hero raises to $86.50, ISILDRooN folds, St1ckman raises to $281.50, Hero raises to $866.50, St1ckman calls $585

    Flop: ($1,755) J 7 5 (2 players)
    Hero bets $1,752, St1ckman raises to $5,735.18 and is all-in, Hero calls $3,572.86

    Turn: ($12,404.72) 6 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
    River: ($12,404.72) Q (2 players, 1 is all-in)

    Spoiler:
    Results: $12,404.72 pot ($3.00 rake)
    Final Board: J 7 5 6 Q
    St1ckman showed 5 6 A 9 and won $12,401.72 ($6,208.36 net)
    Hero showed 8 K K 7 and lost (-$6,193.36 net)



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    06-09-2013 , 07:07 PM
    lol thats a beautiful hand
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    06-09-2013 , 07:22 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AlexKP
    Biggest bb pot this year... Obv lost both runs...



      Poker Stars, $5/$10, $2 ante Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #17844652

      zinc2zinc (MP): $713.95 (71.4 bb)
      maia673 (CO): $2,624.31 (262.4 bb)
      St1ckman (BTN): $6,603.68 (660.4 bb)
      Hero (SB): $6,193.36 (619.3 bb)
      ISILDRooN (BB): $3,485.97 (348.6 bb)
      Sira Al Aziz (UTG): $3,318.27 (331.8 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with 8 K K 7
      3 folds, St1ckman raises to $21.50, Hero raises to $86.50, ISILDRooN folds, St1ckman raises to $281.50, Hero raises to $866.50, St1ckman calls $585

      Flop: ($1,755) J 7 5 (2 players)
      Hero bets $1,752, St1ckman raises to $5,735.18 and is all-in, Hero calls $3,572.86

      Turn: ($12,404.72) 6 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
      River: ($12,404.72) Q (2 players, 1 is all-in)

      Spoiler:
      Results: $12,404.72 pot ($3.00 rake)
      Final Board: J 7 5 6 Q
      St1ckman showed 5 6 A 9 and won $12,401.72 ($6,208.36 net)
      Hero showed 8 K K 7 and lost (-$6,193.36 net)



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        Poker Stars, $5/$10, $2 ante Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 5 Players
        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #17847322

        zinc2zinc (BB): $2,902.43 (290.2 bb)
        maia673 (MP): $3,614.93 (361.5 bb)
        AlexKP (CO): $6,454.50 (645.5 bb)
        Hero (BTN): $3,523.47 (352.3 bb)
        Sira Al Aziz (SB): $2,790.14 (279 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is BTN with J A 5 A
        maia673 folds, AlexKP raises to $45, Hero raises to $160, 2 folds, AlexKP raises to $505, Hero calls $345

        Flop: ($1,035) 3 K 5 (2 players)
        AlexKP bets $443.76, Hero calls $443.76

        Turn: ($1,922.52) Q (2 players)
        AlexKP bets $1,819.60, Hero raises to $2,572.71, AlexKP calls $753.11

        River: ($7,067.94) J (2 players)

        Spoiler:
        Results: $7,067.94 pot ($3.00 rake)
        Final Board: 3 K 5 Q J
        AlexKP showed 9 7 6 T and won $3,532.47 ($9 net)
        Hero showed J A 5 A and won $3,532.47 ($9.00 net)



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        06-09-2013 , 07:45 PM
        Shame we had run it twice on
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        06-09-2013 , 09:03 PM
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        Originally Posted by AlexKP
        Cuz im 6-700.000$+ under EV in PLO on the graph ive posted on 2+2 and on the com I have now... And havent even got the graph where Isildur ran 200k+ over EV when he started PLO 100/200 on ipoker YEARS ago...


        And dont get me started on the nosebleed games in Macau...
        You played the nosebleed PLO in Macau? Because if it was any time in the last year we would have met as I've not missed many 500/1k+ but I can't put a face to the name....
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        06-09-2013 , 09:11 PM
        Ill post the bb graph tonight, not at my comp. I'm over ev in bb I think, but yeah all the run good was at the start at low ish stakes and everytime I play higher a switch seems to flick and I just lose every hand
        What stakes do you run so far under at Alex? How many hands did te run bad last?

        Last edited by Simonsayscall; 06-09-2013 at 09:33 PM.
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        06-09-2013 , 09:23 PM
        Makes sense, less sick pokerwise, just as sick moneywise.
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        06-09-2013 , 09:36 PM
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        Originally Posted by Simonsayscall
        Ill post the bb graph tonight, not at my comp. I'm over ev in bb I think, but yeah all the run good was at the start at low ish stakes and everytime I play higher a switch seems to flick and I just lose every hand
        Yeah same sick stuff here... So fustrating to bink the 5/10 all ins and never win any at 25/50+... I feel ya...

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        Originally Posted by BigAisaOK
        You played the nosebleed PLO in Macau? Because if it was any time in the last year we would have met as I've not missed many 500/1k+ but I can't put a face to the name....
        No I played 2000/4000+ NL games in Macau - I was there only for a week..

        When I went there some swedes told me that a local, Mr. Wu???(He did not speak english)Had an open 500/1000 NL HU challenge to anybody in Macau and some of the younger swedes had taken him on earlier and lost lots vs this guy.

        I got starworld casino to get in touch with him an we agreed to play 500/1000, 500bb min...

        I raped him for some hours and won alot and a little after midnight his eyes lit up like it was chrismas, down to our table comes a dunken out of his mind baccarat dude and sits with 20.000.000 HKD... He wanna play at least 10.000/20.000 HKD, Mr. Wu wouldent do that as it was too high (Same for me obv). We got him down to 2000/4000 and the raise preflop from him was between 20-60.000 HKD pr hand... He played all hands for 3 hours and hit EVERYTHING and got it in bad time after time again, and when the dust settled and I reloaded my last shot I got it in with my AK vs his 88 and lost the rest... All the other hands inbetween makes me sick just to think off...

        Worst day of my pokercaree and I busted ALOT of my roll that night and had to rebuild from scratch basically... FU Macau....


        Edith: Oh and btw he refused to let anyone else join so it was 3 handed the whole time... JUUUUUICY! *not"
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        06-09-2013 , 09:50 PM
        Sounds rigged.
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        06-09-2013 , 09:56 PM
        it does lol
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        06-09-2013 , 10:38 PM
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        Originally Posted by Ditch Digger
        Sounds rigged.
        +1

        Played one *old guy* who offered challenges for some time b4

        did not end well for me or my friends either
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