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06-22-2011 , 08:35 AM

#8976

TGSM89

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ouch, nasty

would like to see how that EV is split out in stakes and buyins

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06-22-2011 , 08:40 AM

#8977

Zeestein

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yah I'm losing a ton to the worst fish in live games, like ppl are just getting there and there's never a safe turn card when I have t2p or sets, and I always brick like a champion vs AAxx no matter whether I'm a dog or a fav on the flop and I flop fd + wrap vs top set + nfd, and I lose mid set vs top + bottom pair etc,

I'm not thinking too much of it since I'm still playing loose/passive pre and tight/aggro post and not tilting, just roll with it, poker is what is

THE GAME IS THE GAME

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06-22-2011 , 04:31 PM

#8978

Your Mom

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i can't win either. way, way below EV this year. getting tired of it

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06-22-2011 , 10:15 PM

#8979

SoCalQuest

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Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,059

I put in 4k preflop with T7T7s 3 way and flop was T63. Look at hand another time and see T777. This usually only happens in my dreams.

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06-22-2011 , 10:26 PM

#8980

Praetor

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lol ouch thats hilarious but sucks

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06-22-2011 , 10:36 PM

#8981

kutty

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hahaha amazing hand histories being posted itt!

Will post the next good one I get

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06-23-2011 , 12:10 AM

#8982

crashwhips

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Originally Posted by SoCalQuest

I put in 4k preflop with T7T7s 3 way and flop was T63. Look at hand another time and see T777. This usually only happens in my dreams.

lol yeah that sucks, I've had countless dreams (or more accurately nightmares) where things exactly like that happen.

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06-23-2011 , 02:40 AM

#8983

urubu111

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damn god, some amazing HHs in this thread. that QQJ9s is best ever lol... so good gifs! plz more like this!

@mixmastermattyk, sorry for your bad run, but could be worse. i have a similar graph from 1/2 up to 5/10 all this year, just like you...

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06-23-2011 , 05:01 AM

#8984

mixmastermattyk

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Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 541

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Originally Posted by TGSM89

ouch, nasty

would like to see how that EV is split out in stakes and buyins

~90 buyins. All pretty lol worthy for various reasons. Obviously I should just play 10/20 because I run above EV there.

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Originally Posted by urubu111

damn god, some amazing HHs in this thread. that QQJ9s is best ever lol... so good gifs! plz more like this!

@mixmastermattyk, sorry for your bad run, but could be worse. i have a similar graph from 1/2 up to 5/10 all this year, just like you...

Damn that sucks Urubu. At least your winnings seem to be generally following your EV line. And you're still up for the year! What happened at the big drop near the start of the graph?

Anyway managed to dump another $4000 or so today which is just ****ing brilliant. I'm actually at the end of my rope. The best part about it is I had a great conversation with my mum last night about how I need to be more emotionally detached and analytical when it comes to games where I'm stuck vs a fish, how given my complete lack of confidence and negative approach I'm probably better off just quitting even if the matchup might in theory be profitable.

Can anyone tell me if these are standard or I'm terrribad? These are all the hands I lost a stack on at 3/6 today. These aren't even the ones that piss me off. It's all the times I 3-bet someone with 8765ds or something sexy, they 4-bet me and the flop comes AKTr or something. Or I raise the button with like 7755ds get 3-bet from the blinds, the flop comes Q74r and they have AQQJ or something. Or in every 3bet pot where I don't connect and someone always calls my c-bet. Anyway I'm losing an absolute fortune in 3bet pots. And a lot in non 3bet pots. I honestly have no idea what's going on. My game is horrible so I feel like I'm getting killed in non-showdown pots and I'm running badly in all-ins that I'm just completely bewildered as to why a game I had no trouble with 2 months ago now seems completely and utterly impossible.

These are all against the same 65/40/15 3-bet lagfish. First two I won yesterday are there for fishy reference.

$3/$6 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 3 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #9804322

SB: $594 (99 bb)
Hero (BTN): $793 (132.2 bb)
BB: $1,677.18 (279.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with Q

Hero raises to $21, SB folds, BB calls $15

Flop: ($45) 3

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $36, BB raises to $151, Hero calls $115

Turn: ($347) Q

(2 players)
BB bets $345, Hero raises to $621 and is all-in, BB calls $276

River: ($1,589) 4

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $1,589 pot ($2 rake)
Final Board: 3

Hero showed Q

and won $1,587 ($794 net)
BB showed 2

and lost (-$793 net)

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$3/$6 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 3 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #9804312

BB: $597 (99.5 bb)
Hero (SB): $1,952.35 (325.4 bb)
BTN: $1,086.03 (181 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A

BTN raises to $21, Hero calls $18, BB folds

Flop: ($48) 3

(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $46, Hero raises to $184, BTN raises to $598, Hero raises to $1,840, BTN calls $467.03 and is all-in

Turn: ($2,178.06) 2

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($2,178.06) 5

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $2,178.06 pot ($2 rake)
Final Board: 3

Hero showed A

and won $2,176.06 ($1,090.03 net)
BTN mucked Q

and lost (-$1,086.03 net)

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$3/$6 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 2 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #9804292

Hero (SB): $656 (109.3 bb)
BB: $876 (146 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8

Hero raises to $18, BB raises to $54, Hero raises to $162, BB calls $108

Flop: ($324) T

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $323, BB raises to $646, Hero calls $171 and is all-in

Turn: ($1,312) 7

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($1,312) T

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $1,312 pot ($1 rake)
Final Board: T

Hero mucked 8

and lost (-$656 net)
BB showed 3

and won $1,311 ($655 net)

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$3/$6 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 2 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #9804362

Hero (SB): $603 (100.5 bb)
BB: $1,528 (254.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 3

Hero raises to $18, BB raises to $54, Hero calls $36

Flop: ($108) 5

(2 players)
BB bets $53.50, Hero calls $53.50

Turn: ($215) Q

(2 players)
BB bets $107, Hero raises to $495.50 and is all-in, BB calls $388.50

River: ($1,206) J

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $1,206 pot ($1 rake)
Final Board: 5

Hero mucked 3

and lost (-$603 net)
BB showed A

and won $1,205 ($602 net)

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$3/$6 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 3 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #9804372

BTN: $600 (100 bb)
Hero (BB): $751.18 (125.2 bb)
SB: $978.80 (163.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 5

BTN raises to $21, SB calls $18, Hero calls $15

Flop: ($63) 4

(3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $50, SB folds, Hero raises to $162, BTN raises to $547, Hero raises to $730.18 and is all-in, BTN calls $32 and is all-in

Turn: ($1,221) 3

(2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($1,221) 6

(2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $1,221 pot ($2.00 rake)
Final Board: 4

BTN showed 7

and won $1,219 ($619 net)
Hero showed 5

and won $0.00 (-$600 net)
SB mucked and lost (-$21 net)

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$3/$6 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #9804382

CO: $111 (18.5 bb)
MP: $640 (106.7 bb)
Hero (SB): $616.20 (102.7 bb)
BTN: $1,916.96 (319.5 bb)
BB: $600 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T

2 folds, BTN raises to $21, Hero raises to $69, BB folds, BTN calls $48

Flop: ($144) A

(2 players)
Hero bets $48, BTN raises to $285, Hero raises to $547.20 and is all-in, BTN calls $262.20

Turn: ($1,238.40) 5

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($1,238.40) 4

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $1,238.40 pot ($3 rake)
Final Board: A

Hero mucked T

and lost (-$616.20 net)
BTN showed 4

and won $1,235.40 ($619.20 net)

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$3/$6 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 3 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #9804302

Hero (SB): $600 (100 bb)
BTN: $810 (135 bb)
BB: $600 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8

BTN raises to $21, Hero raises to $69, BB raises to $228, BTN raises to $753, Hero calls $531 and is all-in, BB calls $372 and is all-in

Flop: ($1,800) Q

(3 players, 2 are all-in)
Turn: ($1,800) 6

(3 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($1,800) J

(3 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $1,800 pot ($2 rake)
Final Board: Q

Hero mucked 8

and lost (-$600 net)
BTN showed A

and won $1,798 ($1,198 net)
BB mucked 8

and lost (-$600 net)

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Apologies if this post is too long and whiny or whatever. If mods want to delete it go for it.

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06-23-2011 , 05:13 AM

#8985

jonno06

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the last one is spew. the rest are standard/boring and i'm kinda pissed i read them.

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06-23-2011 , 05:14 AM

#8986

Your Mom

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such BS:

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06-23-2011 , 06:07 AM

#8987

mixmastermattyk

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Originally Posted by jonno06

the last one is spew. the rest are standard/boring and i'm kinda pissed i read them.

Thanks. That's all I needed to hear. Now that I finished they all look completely standard except for the last one which was probably just tilt induced (and EV neutral, had 33%

).

Just trying to figure out how I make the green line start going the same way as the red line/stop myself from jumping.

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06-23-2011 , 06:22 AM

#8988

Quasar30

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Originally Posted by mixmastermattyk

I had a great conversation with my mum last night about how I need to be more emotionally detached and analytical when it comes to games where I'm stuck vs a fish

lol

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06-23-2011 , 07:16 AM

#8989

Praetor

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I cnat view the new page of the LC thread, whenever I click on it it brings me to page 5, wtf? Is this just me?

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06-23-2011 , 08:51 AM

#8990

mixmastermattyk

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Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 541

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Originally Posted by Quasar30

lol

Haha yeah it is pretty funny. She's the only person I talk to about my poker. Wasn't really quite that specific but more just about my general mindframe and approach to poker and life. It sucks when I hear about people whose parents hate poker and the fact they play it; my mum has been nothing but supportive for me (albeit she would rather me do something that actually "contributes to society" but whatever...)

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06-23-2011 , 11:40 AM

#8991

SeaKing

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Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 5,468

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Originally Posted by Praetor

I cnat view the new page of the LC thread, whenever I click on it it brings me to page 5, wtf? Is this just me?

Shouldn't be like that now because there are/were responses/replies on page 6 when you posted that, but when there are exactly x00 posts a link to page x+1 will be available, but since there are no posts on that page it will take you to the last post which is still on page x. o_O

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06-23-2011 , 12:31 PM

#8992

Praetor

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I still cant view it, it brings me to page 5, so weird

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06-23-2011 , 08:26 PM

#8993

antchev

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Originally Posted by mixmastermattyk

I had a great conversation with my mum last night about how I need to be more emotionally detached and analytical when it comes to games where I'm stuck vs a fish

Your mom is a boss! Mine still thinks that what I'm doing is as bad as selling drugs in a schoolyard...but she has nothing against accepting poker money to redecorate her kitchen and bathroom...sigh.

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06-27-2011 , 07:37 AM

#8994

borderline

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Originally Posted by urubu111

this is what most poker players say, but i think this is wrong. also its impossible think in big blinds or slansky bucks when you lose a ton. i don't believe in people who say they just look as numbers and not as money.

every ****** time i win/lose i think what i can do with that money.

gtfo big blinds stuff... can i buy a car with big blinds? i don't care if i won 10000 big blinds, all i want know is how much $$$$$ i won.

sometimes when very tilted i tried say this to myself ''relax. it was just 100buy ins. 100downswing its kinda standard at plo and some very strong players already lose 50bi in one sessioin. you will be nice.. ''

2seconds later

''fuuuuuuuuuuuuuu. i could buy sooooooooooooooooo many things w that money, damn it was money.. damn, i ****ed my life. ''

5minutes later, while i am rolling a joint, i start doing math to know how many years my dad need work to win the money that i just lose. before i catch a fire i also like to think what villain (who won my money) will be doing w my money. i see his location and start thinking what he is going to do to celebrate.

during the weeks i lose a lot at poker, its standard for me see cars in the streets and think ''hhmm i lose 2 of this. ohh one porsche, would be my dream drive one of this... oh yaaa you just lose one yesterda. IDIOT''.
''

I wish I could facebook like this so everyone could read it. Simply awesome.

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07-02-2011 , 09:43 AM

#8995

FlppingSheen

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bump just because i need this thread in my life

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07-02-2011 , 11:45 AM

#8996

FlppingSheen

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Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 213

do i play really bad, or just standard?

Merge - $20 PL Hi (2 max) - Omaha - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BB: $1,706.27
Hero (SB): $2,558.23

Hero posts SB $10.00, BB posts BB $20.00

Pre Flop: ($30.00) Hero has 2

Hero raises to $60.00, BB raises to $180.00, Hero calls $120.00

Flop: ($360.00, 2 players) J

BB bets $240.00, Hero raises to $675.00, BB calls $435.00

Turn: ($1710.00, 2 players) 2

BB bets $851.27 and is all-in, Hero calls $851.27

River: ($3412.54, 2 players) 8

BB shows 8

(Two Pair, Eights and Fours) (PreFlop 55%, Flop 51%, Turn 68%)
Hero shows 2

(Flush, Ace High) (PreFlop 45%, Flop 49%, Turn 33%)
Hero wins $3,412.04

Last edited by FlppingSheen; 07-02-2011 at 11:47 AM. Reason: villain is terrabad, but a reg