America is great because our president can go to another country, meet protests, and we say "freedom of speech, yo." We could have turned those countries into smoky crater, but we didn't.

I'm starting to think of this thread as a shaggy dog story.

You started thread on 04.07., and some of us just wouldn't Engage at that time. However, you keep bumping it with claims that hipster brews>>Irish + German + all world beer, and that your President Trump could turn UK
And we are supposed to just watch, because your national pride ? That is like, totally, the most American, ever, I can't even.

When you’re on Al Gore’s internet please use Month/Day formatting

And Germany is an extremely weak beer country. Hands are tied by the reinheitsgbot and a centuries old tradition of complacency

I think it's been a while since good beer in the US was a hipster thing.

That is wrong.

EDIT: for clarity

I started this thread on July 4th as a place for people to share what they think are things that make America great. Not the greatest, just great. I went with beer. I never said our beer was better than everyone else's, just that we have the greatest variety and the quality is very good. I've been to Germany and Ireland. They have very good beers in both countries, but you have a very narrow range when it comes to varieties of beer.

When it comes to the Dotard in Chief, I agree with Deniro, "**** Trump!"

And this band may be the pinnacle of your country's music scene, but here they'd just be another ****ty garage band.

I only have had whatever is imported to the US, and a lot of that is very good, no doubt. I think that the push back against the idea that the US has nothing but whatever Al Capone made popular is causing some argument.

I'll take another tact: in the US, you can walk into a bar that has 50 craft beers in tap, then you can walk into another bar that has 50 entirely different beers on tap. You can even short-circuit the process and to go certain bars that have a whopping 150 beers on tap. I don't know how it is in Europe, but it's sounding like things are different over there. By shear numbers, there has to be something worth drinking here.

It was a "haha" joke.

It's a bit amusing to me because the reaction from people in the US is to bring that balloon over to the states.

But you know what? It is something that makes America great. The US made a silly movie about some fat dictator and the Sony gets hacked. There was also the case of Erdogan's bodyguards beating up protesters in Washington DC. Did the US Secret Service beat up the protestors in England? Nope. If they did, the US citizens would be the first to riot on the streets over that.

Most people in America only speaks one language, in case you were wondering why most European bands don't do too hot over here.

people acknowledging a dude with more periods than a roller derby competition smh

Lack of cars is disappointing

Besting Europe's best for 50 years at 1/3 of the price








you ever seen a celebrity in a Toyota Highlander? I've never seen a celebrity in a Toyota Highlander

Prs,


Whether you want to call the good beers here hipster or not, drinking beer in America involves all of those options plus a lot more. As I posted earlier, these are just a few of the many beer drinking options available to me within a couple blocks of my house. The breadth of beer options widely available in America is part of why the beer scene here is the best.

What CS3 said earlier is actually very true. The availability of free clean drinking water in 99% of the US is a huge reason why the US is great. Unfortunately, we take this for granted and let too much of what was once world class infrastructure go in to disrepair.

Amoeba,

If water infrastructure crumbles, there’s always gonna be plentiful soda in America!

America is great because we have so much potable water that we bottle it up and sell it to one another for 10,000X its cost at the tap, except for those times when we're feeling exceptionally stupid great and we import it from a ****ing island in the south pacific.

Can't believe I forgot about cars!

Zik,

Don’t forget about Voss!

El Diablo,

From googling the beers in the first link: http://citybeerstore.com/menu/

Mmm fruit and Coriander. Was never going to be long before Californians put cilantro in beer

This is fine if you like 6.5% and likely incredibly sweet

IPA

Double IPA

IPA with more alcohol than normal

More fruit beer

American Wild Ale, sounds delightful

Never had a Sour, sounds delicious

More fruit beer


So that's 3 fruit beers, 3 IPAs, an 8.3% "Wild" Ale, and a Sour. And I'd bet none of these are served from casks

If there's one beer you'd never describe as "incredibly sweet" when properly made, a saison would be it.

Then you've never had a traditional English ale! They're interesting, you should look for one.

6.5% is around the bottom end for an IPA in USA#1. It's not uncommon to see 8% or higher.

Don't be fooled by the descriptions. The "fruity" beers are very uncommon, and tend to be very hoppy anyways.

Craft beers in the US are very much about exploring the various flavors you can add to beer. For example, you can get an imperial stout, but oatmeal, coffee, chocolate, and peanut butter stouts are also common. They can range from 4% to 10% abv, give or take. The various flavors don't take away from the wide selection of standard beers.

Oskar Blues, Stone, Ballast Point, Lagunitas, and New Belgium all have a wide variety of standard day-to-day beers.

https://www.oskarblues.com/

https://www.ballastpoint.com/our-beers/

https://www.stonebrewing.com/beer

https://lagunitas.com/

https://www.newbelgium.com/

This is a short list off the top of my head, but the point I'm trying to make is that there are plenty options.

Do you think USA#1 doesn't make cask aged beers?

No idea why anyone is still responding to that guy. He's made his point: he's ignorant. Time for everyone to move on.

USA definitely has the best beer in the world. It also has the snobbiest beer enthusiasts that sneer at anyone that doesn't like the most overhopped IPA bull****.

I don't mean cask aged. Beer served from a cask is naturally carbonated, and pumped out using a beer engine, unlike from a keg/tap which uses carbon dioxide to carbonate the beer and provide pressure for the tap. Someone with more knowledge about it can correct me.

I lived in the USA for most of my life and had never even heard of beer served from a cask until being overseas. However, a quick google and I stand corrected. There are places in SF that offer it:

https://foursquare.com/top-places/sa...aces-cask-ales

Of course there are places that serve it straight from a cask. But why do you want it served that way?

Because if it's made from top-fermenting yeast and hasn't been pasteurised the flavour continues to mature until the moment you drink it.

English ale is the best.

There are many great things about America, mostly concerned with the entertainment industry and arts, but beer isn't one of them. It wasn't so long ago you lot were all drinking that piss Budweiser. It's inappropriate to lecture people from countries who've been brewing excellent ales for hundreds of years about beer.

I'm not American but as an aviation enthusiast, I'd have to say the USAF and US Navy aircraft are great.

If I had to choose one, it'd be the F14 Tomcat. Shame it's no longer in service.