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11-16-2015 , 10:02 PM
Yeah I guess, she's not scamming anything though, it's their policy.

Also, I don't really understand the delivery drivers anger. Does he have to pay for the pizza? And what was his point about the 'little guys' or whatever, it's PizzaPizza, far cry from a mom and pop shop
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11-16-2015 , 10:10 PM
I prbly added to the post since you read it.

I assume it's the owner/operator and they sell franchises instead of it being corporate. Corporate was on the phone telling him to abide by the corporate agreement or whatever term it is that he has to as a franchisee.

Txt talked about accepting it with a straight face so either it was the franchisee who dropped it off or was back at the shop and the delivery guy said how it went down and he got riled up and started texting, that's prbly the most likely.
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11-16-2015 , 10:52 PM
She probably didn't answer her phone knowing her address is hard to find. He should have just jizzed on her pizza like a normal deliver driver.
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11-17-2015 , 03:29 AM
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Originally Posted by DodgerIrish
I prbly added to the post since you read it.

I assume it's the owner/operator and they sell franchises instead of it being corporate. Corporate was on the phone telling him to abide by the corporate agreement or whatever term it is that he has to as a franchisee.

Txt talked about accepting it with a straight face so either it was the franchisee who dropped it off or was back at the shop and the delivery guy said how it went down and he got riled up and started texting, that's prbly the most likely.


Article said driver was fired. So prob not the owner as well
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11-17-2015 , 03:31 AM
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Originally Posted by JimHammer

Odd that you care about the delivery drivers tip.
Not sure you what you mean...did you skip over the part where I said I would only tip less if I was sure it was the waiters fault?
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11-17-2015 , 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Villian1
That's a bit of a stretch.
I did choose to say in a small and indirect way for a reason. Do you think that's still a stretch?
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11-17-2015 , 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by KingOfFelt
If your food is late at a restaurant for an unknown reason do you tip your waiter less? Should have tipped the driver imo even if she did get the pizza free.
Yes, if they don't do anything about it/for me.

That's the point of tipping; the waiter should be an advocate for me.
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11-17-2015 , 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by lonely_but_rich
She probably didn't answer her phone knowing her address is hard to find. He should have just jizzed on her pizza like a normal deliver driver.
Boogers and cum
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11-17-2015 , 10:54 AM
When the check comes I allow the server 30 seconds to justify why he/she deserves a tip. If, and only if, they convince me so I tip.
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11-17-2015 , 11:44 AM
The biggest limitation on the success of "no tipping" restaurants is that no-tippers should never go there and big tippers should always go there, but that is a little non-obvious so it might take a while for people to realize it.
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11-17-2015 , 12:28 PM
big tippers like feeling magnanimous
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11-17-2015 , 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by JayTeeMe
Yes, if they don't do anything about it/for me.

That's the point of tipping; the waiter should be an advocate for me.
This lady got her food for free. Should she request his first born child as well?
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11-17-2015 , 01:18 PM
Tipping at an all inclusive resort that doesn't allow tipping is the expert play
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11-17-2015 , 01:32 PM
What about putting the tip on the table in the beginning and when you s ee the server do something you don't like you make sure they notice you taking the money off of the table so they realize their actions have consequences
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11-17-2015 , 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by DefNotRsigley
What about putting the tip on the table in the beginning and when you s ee the server do something you don't like you make sure they notice you taking the money off of the table so they realize their actions have consequences
At the very least you gotta give em a chance to earn it back at the end by doing a particularly fine jig or something
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11-17-2015 , 05:43 PM
That's not at all douchy or power-hungry or condescending. I'd forgo the whatever dollars you started and just mess your dinner.
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11-17-2015 , 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by DefNotRsigley
What about putting the tip on the table in the beginning and when you s ee the server do something you don't like you make sure they notice you taking the money off of the table so they realize their actions have consequences
This is the absolute worst, and once heard a great story of a guy getting chucked from a Boston bar for doing this. Manager saw what was happening and just said GTFO those 2 drinks are on me just beat it ****stick.

Don't be that guy sigs, you seem ok otherwise and that would just ruin everything.
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11-17-2015 , 09:52 PM
Oh no I tip normally, prolly way too much because I don't care

I'm just offering ways other people can deal with tipping since it seems like a lot of people have issues with it
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11-17-2015 , 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan
There's no reason the percentage should have gone up
Supposedly, it's because while the cost of living has gone up the base wage has not gone up for waiters/waitresses to accommodate that increase. So the extra percentage is there to compensate.

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Originally Posted by KingOfFelt
Have you travelled much in non-tipping countries? I lived in Barcelona and the service was generally better than that of the US. It is a non-tipping culture in Spain. It could be that people in the US just feel more entitled to tips so would do a bad job because they aren't getting tipped. That said, I think being a waiter in the US is a harder job because the people are more demanding on average.
I live in Valencia and make it a point to travel to various countries during the summer since Spain is unbearably hot and I have time off.

I've called over waitresses for their help and have had them just stare at me and ignore my requests. I never experienced that in America.
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11-18-2015 , 12:05 AM
I think the point of tipping is that if you frequent an establishment regularly the fact that you tip gets you superior service/priority. tipping and never returning to a place seems -ev.
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11-18-2015 , 01:53 AM
I disagree Ace, imo tipping is tipping. It should be on a per-server basis. Do I tip my 'regular' waitstaff better on average? Sure. Do I tip random waitstaff less because they are not my regulars? Not really. I tip based on the interaction.

I am a generous tipper by nature(having bartended, dealt poker etc), but if you suck you are getting 10% which is my absolute bottom on tipping for food. If you are average, I tip 15-20% depending, and if you are above average I tip 20+ up to 30% for just top-notch awesome on all fronts.

That all being said, it is also pretty not hard to not be a terrible server. Even in the thickest of weeds, a good server can avoid sucking.
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11-18-2015 , 02:48 AM
The culture we have here in the states of tipping is fascinating -- there's so much to discuss, on so many levels. And tipping has spread, or continues to try and spread, to so many places other than restaurants and bars.

Tipping, and especially tipping say 20% (instead of 15%) at a restaurant, is essentially done to feel good about yourself. I'm guilty of that on smaller bills for sure. But, I've never tipped more than 15% on a bill over $100, and never will. Kind of proud of that.

May not be totally applicable, but one of the things I love about Uber is that even though the cost is around the same as a taxi, I don't have to tip. It feels good frankly.
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11-18-2015 , 03:12 AM
I can appreciate that too.
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11-18-2015 , 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by NapoleonDolemite
I can have twice as many servers on the floor at the same labor cost in the tipped model. Tipped model is generally going to lead to better service.
+1

The tipped model also allows lower prices.

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Except in that example you just made, your servers are going to lose out on money as the total tips being taken in are now being divided by twice as many people
Over staffing is never a problem because you can send servers home based on needs of the business.

No one loses anything. Tipped model keeps as many servers on the floor as needed to maximize profits and service at a lower cost than the non-tipped model.
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11-18-2015 , 08:59 AM
Uh, yeah, your servers are still missing out there. Especially the ones being sent home.
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