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07-29-2010 , 06:59 PM
ignorance is bliss imo
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07-29-2010 , 07:06 PM
When you autograt someone there's a notice on the menu, on the check, and on the credit slip if they pay that way. On top of the fact that it's completely standard and every adult should already be aware if they're out with a big party that it's going to happen. That said, when I was serving, if people were nice, or even just normal, I would always tell them if I autogratted. Douchey demanding jerks, I might have forgotten to inform once or twice.
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07-29-2010 , 07:23 PM
If the person that tipped twice came back an hour later after realizing his mistake, would he be entitled to have the second tip refunded by the waiter?
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07-29-2010 , 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Badafro
If the person that tipped twice came back an hour later after realizing his mistake, would he be entitled to have the second tip refunded by the waiter?
I would out of courtesy but I believe that your request belongs here: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/34...one-do-820936/ if you actually go back to get a tip....If you're this cheap you shouldn't be eating out to begin with.

That's like giving a kid 2 pieces of candy for Halloween then saying oops then reach in and get one of them back.
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07-29-2010 , 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Badafro
If the person that tipped twice came back an hour later after realizing his mistake, would he be entitled to have the second tip refunded by the waiter?
yeah its happened before refunded by the restaurant and we repay them.
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07-29-2010 , 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by knotfan1234
I would out of courtesy but I believe that your request belongs here: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/34...one-do-820936/ if you actually go back to get a tip....If you're this cheap you shouldn't be eating out to begin with.

That's like giving a kid 2 pieces of candy for Halloween then saying oops then reach in and get one of them back.
You do realize that I'm only asking if you'd correct a mistake right? I'm not asking if you can give a standard tip and then come back later because you changed your mind and ask for the entire tip back.

And it is obviously not anything like knowingly giving someone something and then ask for it to be given back.
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07-29-2010 , 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Badafro
You do realize that I'm only asking if you'd correct a mistake right? I'm not asking if you can give a standard tip and then come back later because you changed your mind and ask for the entire tip back.

And it is obviously not anything like knowingly giving someone something and then ask for it to be given back.
I understand but at what point do you actually realize that you overpaid? You get your bank statement 2 weeks from now and realize that you overpaid $10.64 would you go back to get it?

One of two things here:

1) You go to a cheapish place i.e. Applebees with 10 people, you tip twice, once with the add-on and then again with the missed tip. Your looking at maybe a $5-10 oops-I-added-on. If your so cheap to deny some kid $5-10 bucks then you shouldn't be eating out.

2) You go to a high class restaurant i.e Ruth's Chris or something even more expensive with 10 people and it's $40-50 bucks a person. Again, tipping twice you are probably going to look at a hefty tip of upwards of $20/person. If you go back to a fancy restaurant and ask for your tip back you just look awful and shouldn't be eating there in the first place.

However in any circumstance I would gladly return their extra tip and joke about how it's an honest mistake, then discuss with my co-workers how they are incredibly cheap.
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07-29-2010 , 08:34 PM
10 - 15%. Over 15% is exceptional service. Or because I want to make the waiter/waitress feel better on Sunday morning after repeatedly getting buttsecksed by the church crowd.

I hated the autograt when I was a waiter...to me it seemed insulting. I hate it so much that I would find another restaurant to go to if I was booking a party of 8 and told it would be autograt 18%.

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What do you do when you get things for free? My work reimburses me for haircuts, so I've been back and forth about what I tip the woman who's cut my hair for the last 10 years. Right now, I'm on a $10 tip on a $30 cut (company reimburses the $30).
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07-29-2010 , 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by WWJfergusonD
10 - 15%. Over 15% is exceptional service. Or because I want to make the waiter/waitress feel better on Sunday morning after repeatedly getting buttsecksed by the church crowd.

I hated the autograt when I was a waiter...to me it seemed insulting. I hate it so much that I would find another restaurant to go to if I was booking a party of 8 and told it would be autograt 18%.
That these two statements came from the same person boggles my mind. When/where were you a waiter? Everywhere I've worked it's always been 15-20%, with 15% being closer to the bare minimum and 20% being closer to standard.
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07-29-2010 , 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by zer0
am i supposed to tip the guys who deliver my new bed today?
Sure, give them a few bucks if they do it quickly, arrive on time, set it up conveniently, etc. I did this when my couch arrived.
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07-29-2010 , 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by smurg
Kansas $7.25 Increased to $7.25 on January 1, 2010.[14] For many years, the minimum wage was set to $2.65, the lowest in the nation.

Sounds like it used to be more of a state problem. So if you chose to wait tables for $2.65/hr, then be my guest. But you can't 100% guarantee without a doubt depend on higher. Variance.

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Hey, I'll make my job surfing internet forums and apply minimum wage to myself. Then I'll claim that the majority of my money to be made is from tips, so you guys should tip me if you read my posts.

So they happen to make most of their money from tips. They aren't guaranteed that or entitled to that.
Most people here are advocating tipping for good service. This would seemingly guarantee that if the above were put into practice, you'd receive no tips due to the absolutely and utterly horrendous quality of your posts.
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07-29-2010 , 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by WWJfergusonD
What do you do when you get things for free? My work reimburses me for haircuts, so I've been back and forth about what I tip the woman who's cut my hair for the last 10 years. Right now, I'm on a $10 tip on a $30 cut (company reimburses the $30).
Well, I would probably tip somewhere between $5-10 bucks for a typical $30 hair cut (I don't really know, that's a part of tipping etiquette I've never been sure sure of, plust I get like $12 hair cuts), but I think that if you're getting reimbursed, just tip whatever you'd normally tip, because it's not like they're giving away a free haircut, they're just getting paid by your boss.

Now, free drinks at a bar is a different story. Again, it depends (there are some place where I can go and basically expect not to get a tab, so it's a lot of guesstimation), but if I were at a bar I didn't go to too often, had 4 beers and the 5th one was on the house, I'd tip 20% of the bill + 1/2 the cost of the beer (so in this case, I'd tip ~1/3).
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07-29-2010 , 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by PoBoy321
That these two statements came from the same person boggles my mind. When/where were you a waiter? Everywhere I've worked it's always been 15-20%, with 15% being closer to the bare minimum and 20% being closer to standard.
In Canada we pay our servers min wage. Not the $3/hr standard in the states,
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07-29-2010 , 08:49 PM
I tip $4 or $5 on a $14 haircut
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07-29-2010 , 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by PoBoy321
That these two statements came from the same person boggles my mind. When/where were you a waiter? Everywhere I've worked it's always been 15-20%, with 15% being closer to the bare minimum and 20% being closer to standard.
1996-1998
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07-29-2010 , 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by EfromPegTown
In Canada we pay our servers min wage. Not the $3/hr standard in the states,
Yeah, I think we made 80-90% of the minimum wage back then.
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07-29-2010 , 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by WWJfergusonD
10 - 15%. Over 15% is exceptional service. Or because I want to make the waiter/waitress feel better on Sunday morning after repeatedly getting buttsecksed by the church crowd.

I hated the autograt when I was a waiter...to me it seemed insulting. I hate it so much that I would find another restaurant to go to if I was booking a party of 8 and told it would be autograt 18%.
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Originally Posted by PoBoy321
That these two statements came from the same person boggles my mind. When/where were you a waiter? Everywhere I've worked it's always been 15-20%, with 15% being closer to the bare minimum and 20% being closer to standard.
Everyone has different ideas about tipping. So I never got too peeved if someone left me 10%. I was happy that they liked my service enough to throw me a little extra.

When a semi-drunk 40-something dude on a first date handed me his roll and told me to "take enough to cover it", I took $260 for his $225 bill. One small part of me thought a $35 tip might have been overdoing it.
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07-29-2010 , 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by WWJfergusonD
Everyone has different ideas about tipping. So I never got too peeved if someone left me 10%. I was happy that they liked my service enough to throw me a little extra.

When a semi-drunk 40-something dude on a first date handed me his roll and told me to "take enough to cover it", I took $260 for his $225 bill. One small part of me thought a $35 tip might have been overdoing it.
would've taken him to the bank
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07-29-2010 , 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by knotfan1234
I understand but at what point do you actually realize that you overpaid? You get your bank statement 2 weeks from now and realize that you overpaid $10.64 would you go back to get it?

One of two things here:

1) You go to a cheapish place i.e. Applebees with 10 people, you tip twice, once with the add-on and then again with the missed tip. Your looking at maybe a $5-10 oops-I-added-on. If your so cheap to deny some kid $5-10 bucks then you shouldn't be eating out.

2) You go to a high class restaurant i.e Ruth's Chris or something even more expensive with 10 people and it's $40-50 bucks a person. Again, tipping twice you are probably going to look at a hefty tip of upwards of $20/person. If you go back to a fancy restaurant and ask for your tip back you just look awful and shouldn't be eating there in the first place.

However in any circumstance I would gladly return their extra tip and joke about how it's an honest mistake, then discuss with my co-workers how they are incredibly cheap.
I would assume that most people would just let it go if they realized the mistake several weeks later. I think I would, anyway, but I haven't ever had to deal with something like that.
That wasn't what I wrote though. The theoretical situation was that the guy came back an hour later and asked for the mistake to be corrected. I don't know what the cut-off point is, but I wouldn't think less of some guy correcting a mistake even two weeks later if that's when he discovered the mistake. I'd probably just think he had too much time on his hands.

1. You're not denying anyone anything. The kid already got his tip. While 10 bucks is most likely not worth a drive to a restaurant the amount of money shouldn't change the fact that the customer is more entitled to the money than the server, just like the bank mistakenly transferring 10 bucks to your account doesn't magically make it your money.

2. I don't understand why you have to be able to afford and extra $100 tip in order to eat at a restaurant. Again, the amount of money doesn't really mean anything. If you can afford to pay for the food, drinks, and the standard tip then you can afford to go to the restaurant. I don't understand why anyone but a waiter(and Henry as well) feeling entitled to money that isn't his can think that wanting to correct a $100 mistake is cheap. You already got what you're entitled to. At what point did you suddenly feel entitled to money given to you by mistake.
I really can't think of any other situation where a person making a mistake that costs him money and later trying to correct that mistake would be cheap. I can easily think of situations where the mistake are so small that most people wouldn't care like example 1, or someone forgetting a quarter in change at the gas station and then driving back and ask for it. But the whole discussion started because some guy makes most of his money from customers not realizing that they're tipping him twice. If somehow all those people are incredibly ******ed then I'm more alright with it, but seeing how supposedly a lot of people do it, I would venture to guess that they need a little help to figure it out, so why not give them a little help?

Anyway, I seem to be the only one who has a problem with this thing, so I'm either completely wrong or you're all entitled waiter douches, and I guess the first option is the most likely so why not just leave it at that?
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07-29-2010 , 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by knotfan1234
would've taken him to the bank
I'd like to think that in that situation I'd have stuck the wad in my pocket, said "Thanks, bro" and walked back to the kitchen.
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07-29-2010 , 09:50 PM
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I'd like to think that in that situation I'd have stuck the wad in my pocket, said "Thanks, bro" and walked back to the kitchen.
would you take off your shades afterwards CSI-Caruso style?
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07-29-2010 , 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Badafro
I would assume that most people would just let it go if they realized the mistake several weeks later. I think I would, anyway, but I haven't ever had to deal with something like that.
That wasn't what I wrote though. The theoretical situation was that the guy came back an hour later and asked for the mistake to be corrected. I don't know what the cut-off point is, but I wouldn't think less of some guy correcting a mistake even two weeks later if that's when he discovered the mistake. I'd probably just think he had too much time on his hands.

1. You're not denying anyone anything. The kid already got his tip. While 10 bucks is most likely not worth a drive to a restaurant the amount of money shouldn't change the fact that the customer is more entitled to the money than the server, just like the bank mistakenly transferring 10 bucks to your account doesn't magically make it your money.

2. I don't understand why you have to be able to afford and extra $100 tip in order to eat at a restaurant. Again, the amount of money doesn't really mean anything. If you can afford to pay for the food, drinks, and the standard tip then you can afford to go to the restaurant. I don't understand why anyone but a waiter(and Henry as well) feeling entitled to money that isn't his can think that wanting to correct a $100 mistake is cheap. You already got what you're entitled to. At what point did you suddenly feel entitled to money given to you by mistake.
I really can't think of any other situation where a person making a mistake that costs him money and later trying to correct that mistake would be cheap. I can easily think of situations where the mistake are so small that most people wouldn't care like example 1, or someone forgetting a quarter in change at the gas station and then driving back and ask for it. But the whole discussion started because some guy makes most of his money from customers not realizing that they're tipping him twice. If somehow all those people are incredibly ******ed then I'm more alright with it, but seeing how supposedly a lot of people do it, I would venture to guess that they need a little help to figure it out, so why not give them a little help?

Anyway, I seem to be the only one who has a problem with this thing, so I'm either completely wrong or you're all entitled waiter douches, and I guess the first option is the most likely so why not just leave it at that?
No harshness bro...I'm just stating my point...I do agree with your point that if someone is ignorant to the fact than I'd be inclined to say that it includes the large party tip...I'm just thinking that if someone actually goes back an hour or 2 later seems unnecessary. If I were to ever double-tip and the service was ****ty then I'd probably go back and get my portion back otherwise I'd just leave it.
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07-30-2010 , 02:16 AM
i have no soul if that is the part that would morally eat at you.
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07-30-2010 , 02:46 AM
Tipping fight that needs settling. At the track you order beers from the concession stand. I haven't been tipping on my rounds for the last two years. This appalled the people I've been drinking with. As they see it, it's no different than getting a beer at a bar, where you would tip. As i see it, it's no different than getting a hot dog or pepsi at the concession stand where you wouldn't tip.

Who's right here?
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07-30-2010 , 03:14 AM
I'm normally in favor of tipping well for good service, but overtippers really do ruin it for the rest of us.

10 dollars on a 30 dollar haircut, seriously???
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