I'm 33. He's 38. although he lied about that originally too, which is so ******ed.

lol...What? I like Gorie and I haven't seen he on here in a couple years, so I'm catching up some. Is that a big deal?

dom it was in response to the suggestion of getting rid of super standard internet shorthand...

and the 2nd one was in response to suggesting that someone who has never had a drop of alcohol go to alcoholics anonymous.

??
I was trying to think of a free way to get help. maybe al-anon isn't for her, but a therapist isn't the only resource out there.

al-anon isn't for alcoholics, it's for the family and those who live with alcoholics

i mean just dumping the guy seems like a far better solution than starting to go to al-anon to deal with him lol

I've fantasized about going to rehab.

yeah this. Once I got past my own lack of self confidence, I cashed in on pussy that was way out of my league simply because I was a nice guy, and they were tired of guys being jerks.

oh. I thought. "smh" was a stupid thing we see on Facebook and make fun of.

Sounded like you were suggesting she go in search of dates @ AA

Reminded me a bit of my sister

heh, please elaborate on that. Like what about rehab do you fantasize about? Im curious cuz i cant think of anything exciting about rehab?

this is my point. even nice guys still have their agenda's.

if you think trying to get laid qualifies as "having an agenda" then you do indeed need therapy. and maybe a book about evolution or something.

You like sex, what's your agenda?

The structured setting, people trying to help you. Being able to come out of it being able to handle addictions better. I do feel like I relate to people with addiction problems even though I've never done drugs or alcohol.

Everyone has an agenda, even women. Its also not fair to somehow think just because every single guy on the face of the planet wants to have sex, that it somehow makes everything that goes into what happens before the sex meaningless or fake.

(a little secret. they go to al-anon to figure out how to fix the alcoholic, but end up fixing themselves)

Of course she should dump him.
And find a nice guy who turns her on and settle down and make babies and beautiful paintings. yada yada yada.

Gorie knew all that before she posted.
What (I think) she really wanted is a community to back up and reinforce that decision. And we've all done that.

I'm just passing on what little help I can.

Btw,
as to the original question, my nephews sometimes sleep/slept in the same bed with their parents. (my brother and sister-in-law) up to the age of 10 or so. Didn't get it from my side of the family. I can hardly sleep with another person in the room.
One vacation the younger (5 at the time) was hinting that he wanted to join me. I threatened that I would roll over and crush him. I slept alone and in peace.

I realize that, I was mostly joking with saying that all men are jerks anyway. Women are jerks too, everyone is a jerk. Just different kinds of jerks.

I do think it's funny to say you turned into a nice guy to cash in on pussy though. Only because it sounds like a contradiction.

Also the way I see it, I'm either attracted to someone or I'm not. Things make me feel better or worse about them from there. To me, being a good person is always better than being a scumbag, that is obvious. But someone being "nice" to get girls that is a scumbag underneath it, is still a scumbag (not applying this to you directly just saying). And when there is no attraction to begin with, no amount of niceness is going to affect that, so I don't get the whole thing of girls going to nice guys because of being sick of the jerks. They were attracted to you either way and just got lucky that you ended up being nice to them. I wouldn't want to be with a guy I wasn't attracted to just because he was nice to me. So they were probably willing to sleep with you anyway under the right circumstances. You just learned that being nice is superior to being an *******.

also, I think I am more likely now to think things are meaningless or fake, I admit that and know it isn't fair.

Michael Jackson must be rolling in his grave right now.

pretty sure you need to reread what he said:

Props to Gorie for her honesty.

you're right, my mistake. sorry Alobar

NL,

good to know that the post-fluffpop era has made you harder and stronger.

Getting laid is a fine agenda to have. Needing to think you are with someone better than yourself is the agenda I think she disliked. Gorie do you feel like you are better than this guy, not Alobar the other guy? Is this guy out of your league in the looks department?

For the record I also want women out of my league, everyone does right? We just don't know what to do with them when we get one.

I have original gorie artwork hanging on my wall. Since she's not painting anymore, I'll accept offers via PM. Nothing less than $1M please.