Cesar Milan says EXACTLY what we argue.

That yes, all dogs can bite, but when a pit bull does it it's far more dangerous.

"But it’s also important for me to help educate people who own pit bulls about their dogs. Pit bulls combine the speed and determination of the terrier side of their ancestry with the strength of the bulldog side.

It is the Terrier determination that causes problems if they fight, because they’ll be oblivious to pain and just refuse to quit."

Literal quote. Cesar Milan.

Dog door.

You forgot the smug sense of superiority people get from 'rescuing' a dog from a shelter vs buying one. I think that accounts for nearly everyone who has a pit mix.

Hahahaha fantastic.

My belief right now is that it's people like the guy in this video is the reason pit-bulls get a bad rap. it is very hard for me to believe that a breed is inherently bad. I need to look into more but I suspect I'm right.

What's the harm in mandating that all pitbulls (owned by someone) be sterilized?

When we decide which dogs to put down, what's the harm in putting all the pitbulls (in shelters) down? We have plenty of other dogs to go around.

If pitbulls did not exist, would there be value in creating them?

Why?

What is your opinion on the dogo argentino?

Glad you agree deaths have gone way up under the pit bull's reign.

One time I was walking my dog in my neighborhood and some construction workers literally started making fun of me - stuff like "nice badass dog!". She was a 35 lb - samoyed husky/golden lab mix - so not even close to like a teacup dog or something.

I was in my 20s and self-actualized enough to just laugh it off. But peer pressure like that is powerful. Obviously it had to have some impact on me if I still remember it 20 years later.

If you grow up and live in a macho community where that **** is pervasive - no way you're going to settle for anything less than a weaponized dog. Unless maybe you're Omar-level badassery to where no one will call you out no matter what dog you have.

This reason for pit ownership is what a lot of these owners will never tell you - if they're even aware of it themselves. Pick on me now mother****er!

The problem is, how do you determine what a "pit bull" is? Most pit bulls are mixes with unknown pedigrees. That's why i like submitting pics and DNA to insurance companies. They love money and will figure out ways to evaluate risk, and thus push everyone in the right direction.

Many of the other breeds have unique value to humanity.

Riverside county meth heads don't spend a lot on insurance.

I think they have some bad traits, like it being hard to tell when they are aggressive, but mainly it's the tenacity, fearlessness and pain tolerance. They were bred for that. Doesn't matter if they are inherently sweet, those aren't necessarily tolerable traits even in sweet dogs.

There are people who rescue Elephants and they are very nice and loyal and friendly for the most part, but once in a while one gets annoyed. Pit bull != elephant, but you draw the line somewhere. People shouldn't necessarily be allowed to breed dogs to be more and more dangerous, even if it's just physical and not their disposition.

http://atts.org/breed-statistics/statistics-page1/

American pit bull scores 86.8%

I probably mentioned this earlier in the thread - but I'm still pissed about that dude who thought it was funny that his pit was trying to stalk and kill my friend's little dog as I walked her.

While walking my friend's dog, I walked right by the dude with hit pit -w which was standing on top of a 2-3' concrete wall. They looked at me, I looked at them. I got about 20 feet further and got a weird feeling. I turned around and looked back and the pit was now in the sidewalk stalking towards us like a crouched lion. Dude was just sitting there with a ****-eating grin on his face.

I know there are good pit owners - but so many I've seen and met are *******s like this.

Nails it.

I blame today's spoiled toddlers who don't know their place around dogs.

And none of those dogs maimed and killed with the severity we see now. I love Cesar but he's dead wrong about how dangerous pit bulls are.

It could be true that the Dog Whisperer could raise any pit to not be violent. But we have shown story after story in this thread - which all the pit supporters refuse to read - which show pits raised completely lovingly and well who went on to kill with no provocation or warning. If someone has to be the absolute perfect dog owner to raise a dog from being violent - that's not a good dog to have around.

lol you cant be serious

What did the dog do to indicate he was trying to kill your friends dog?

Do you also not believe that some breeds are inherently smarter than others?

?? Did you read the dude's story??

I will concede that the pit bull never slapped Suzz-friend dog in the face with a leather glove and challenged him to a duel.

All I read was that post, wheres the story

I wonder how many of the 121 Australian Shepherds that failed will kill a baby in the future.

Boerboel - 95.8%.







Your kids are perfectly safe around my boerboel, though. I'm a good owner!!!

Why does that matter?

Is it also hard for you to believe that some breeds have an instinct to fetch things from water and some breeds have an instinct to herd sheep?

In the UK most people want dogs as pets not weapons and only a few psychos who want people to be frightened of them still own Rottweilers after the decades of bad press. So the bites will be mostly from the dogs that are popular there. Also where is your source for that information?

Well let's see.

The pit watched us walk by then didn't move until we got past and weren't looking at him/her anymore. Then the dog silently jumped down off the wall and made it about 2/3 of the way towards me and the little dog, completely silently. When I turned around the dog was hunched down, inching along like a cat stalking it's prey. As soon as I turned around it stopped in its tracks. The dog's owner thought this was all quite amusing.

Yeah, nothing possible to infer here. Pit bulls aren't known to attack other dogs with no warning or provocation (see OP) or stalk other dogs.

Thank god you turned around and scared the dog off from killing the other dog

I'm not even saying pit Bulls don't attack without provocation but the way you word your story makes it sound like imminate death awaited your furry little friend, which obviously isn't the case. The dog literally showed no signs of aggression, you turned around and the dog just walked away? Like how did you ever even consider your dog being in danger from that?

You realize less than 1/1000 putbulls have attacked people right?

Is it right to euthanize a breed for the outliers? Sure, I wouldn't be opposed. Dogs are dogs and humans are humans. A dogs life should never take precedence and the attacks occur often enough that people denying the ferocity of the breed are just stupid and this coming from the son of a dog trainer who has trained and fostered many pitbulls. I love pitbulls, but I'm not gonna get one because I can get a golden retriever that will provide the same benefits without the potential drawbacks

But your story is so over exaggerated, just say the breed makes you uncomfortable which is fine.