Yak being a POS about an issue kind of makes me like him more.

Communist

Should have gone with something cheaper than bananananananas

Asking for a link to substantiate your claims is an admission of nothing; not furnishing said link might be, though.

I have no contempt for those people who have above average adipose tissue macrophages. However, why do you hold such contempt for those entities providing a resource for people who wish to obtain above average adipose tissue macrophages?

In previous posts, you were playing down the extent and nature of McDonalds advertising, as if you knew what you were talking about. Then in that post you told me you weren't "keeping tabs on the McDonalds propaganda machine" and asking for a link. Why would I continue to argue with someone who is just guessing? And what link do you expect me to provide anyway? "McDonald's Brainwashing Blueprint"?

Now I've gone back to check, I realise I confused you with numberonedonk, who told us he has a "strong dislike for obese people". Presumably, I got you mixed up because you both have some similarly baffling stances. I'm not keen on calling obese people boats and fatties and the like but I wouldn't have made that comment if it wasn't for the mistaken identity. If you say you have no contempt, I believe you, and apologies for the accusation.

If you want to hear it again, just go back and read all the posts I made in this thread.

I'm definitely done arguing this with you. You strike me as somebody who had their mind fully made up without knowing any of the issues. I won't be able to convince you because you're unwavering despite your ignorance. Similarly, there's nothing that you can say to cause me to see things differently, since you literally don't have a clue what you're talking about.

dog **** with gov't cheese comes pretty close

lol, big macs are delicious. I eat them rarely these days because I've been watching my weight, but it's fat and carbs, of course it tastes good.

This was a lot of words to say nothing. McD spends more on advertizing than any fast food corp on the planet (they've got the biggest roll, ldo), but where are they spending boatloads to convince people their food is not unhealthy? Are they buying off politicians? Is this something you think is happening or you know is happening, and can you provide any evidence? Not even a youtube conspiracy video? I provided you with the link to their nutrition pdf. That proves their food if ate in excess would be unhealthy. Again, you can chow on some big macs and suffer no health issues if you eat otherwise sensibly, and they can use this fact in their defense.

Again, you've got a hardon for McD's, but your McBeef should be with the people with higher than average adipose tissue macrophages that probably would prefer you leave their boy McD's alone.

You can eat 3 big macs every day and lose weight, so it's not the big macs that are the problem.

lol you are an idiot. you can also eat two sticks of butter a day and lose weight, who cares?

You're the idiot. You love big macs but eat them rarely because you are watching your weight. If you said because you're watching your health, well, ok, but you're just trying to get back into 36" slacks.

Cabbage is generally the only produce cheaper than bananas imo.

lol. I eat them because for that amount of calories, I will be hungrier more quickly than if I ate less calorie dense food idiot. Already surpassed 36" slacks as well!

What kind of moron suggests people dieting to eat mcdonalds?

Maybe you should just grow some discipline and eat your carb-laden **** foods you love so much and restrict your calories to lose weight?

You on a diet? Perhaps make a lifestyle change, doof. Then you can eat all you want of anything you want and not gain weight.

Cliffs of last 8 or so post:

Doofus #1: You're an idiot!

Doofus #2: No you're an idiot!

Doofus #1: that's my point, moron!

Doofus #2: no, you're the moron, you idiot!

Rinse. Repeat.

Possibly true, but what's worse is: you have someone fat shaming (and encouraging him to fast food)someone who is working on losing weight.

Yeah, that's exactly the pattern my argument with Land O Lakes was taking and why I ducked out.

LOL, for the last time, I'm not going to do that. There's only you who sees a controversy in what I am presenting as facts. I am not going to get into the tedious game of providing specific sources for you to nitpick. Instead, you can Google the following issues:

- Targeting children in advertising
- Spending millions lobbying government agencies (especially FDA e.g. on food labelling - they don't want to prominently display information about guideline intakes)
- Spending millions on biased research playing down the importance of diet and placing greater emphasis on exercise.

If you're genuinely interested, go away and do your homework, then come back when you've caught up to the rest of us. Maybe you still disagree that McDonalds acts unethically, and you can argue that point. Fair enough, there is room for debate there. But while the only argument you're bringing to the table is "not McDonalds fault because personal responsibility", I am not going to discuss it with you.

edit: Guess I didn't do a great job of ducking out. I find it so difficult to let things drop when the other side is acting so moronically. And yeah, agree with Jackitos completely.

I feel suspect about this post, I normally dont agree with LOL so there must be more to this ... Just ate a whopper and it was prittaj good.

Maybe you feel suspect because it's shockingly bad advice?

Fortunately, I think the guy has a handle on it and realises that LOL is FOS. The first thing he should be doing if he wants to get healthier is to lose weight. The first thing he should do if he wants to lose weight is reduce his caloric intake. An easy win if he eats a lot of fast food would be to cut out completely or reduce to a rare treat. These things are about as close as it gets to a consensus among nutritionists/dieticians/health experts.

Or he could eat 5 Big Macs and run a half marathon every day

Its almost like thats exactly what LOL said.

Yakmelk,

Do you want to explain how in your world, "cut out [fast food] completely or reduce to a rare treat" is the same advice as "eat all you want of anything you want and not gain weight"?

Maybe the time would be better spent working to improve your level of reading comprehension.

Yak on board with LOL, lol. Strange times indeed...

Yo, chef. I ate an entire box of kamut pasta yesterday for lunch. Hang on pardner... ok, that's 7 servings at 210 a piece, so 1470 calories. Add in some tasty EVOO saucy seasoning with some sauteed veggies, and that's about 1650. Also drank a quart of of HEED at 200 calories. That's approximately 1850 calories for lunch and about 350g carbohydrates. Then an hour later I crashed out a bit. Woke up a couple of hours later hungry, so I had a black bean-quinoa burger. Too bad I don't eat McD; I could have had 4 big macs and some fries, but I don't refuel with garbage...

Yeah, they market to children. Same with Honey Smacks, Fruit Loops, Oreos, Skittles... worse foods than a cheeseburger. Go into a McD's in California. What do you see next to each item on a menu? The calories. I've never seen it myself (haven't had McD since 1987), but it's the law and people have told me it's there. I guess McD couldn't buy off one state, one of the easiest to buy off.

Education is key. Start bitching to schools if you can't get parents to be parents and inform themselves and their children on how to eat sensibly. Oh yeah, McD's has bought out the entire school system. Ok, bitch to your state representatives. They're probably in that clown's pockets, too? I guess it all boils down to parents being responsible parents, like everything else regarding raising a child.

thechef, I was originally joking but after reading more of your stance I am actually genuinely curious what you think of this

I think the only thing that is really not ok is if you don't inform the police.

I don't particularly like the brick through window thing because what are you setting out to achieve? Are you sure you're not going to cause distress to others? Brick through McDonalds window (I didn't introduce this idea, btw) makes so much more sense. It's meting out a financial punishment, which is really the only way you can hurt them in any way.

But if someone did this in anger, I couldn't blame them too much, as long as they also inform the police.

Land O Lakes, sorry, not reading that.

I appreciate that you have read and have decided that your only response is to say you didn't read it.