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08-11-2015 , 04:57 PM
Custer,

Can you quote what you wrote about what would be acceptable for the mystery shot?

I'd like to take a look at that and if necessary share (with grear's approval) the shot with another trusted forum member to make sure there won't be any gametime dispute.
08-11-2015 , 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by offTopic
When the mystery shot was being discussed, and it came to light that an NBA player had made it in a game, did it actually count?
Of course.
08-11-2015 , 04:58 PM
OMG I just had a hilarious thought but I don't want to poison the well.

Looking forward to the competition!
08-11-2015 , 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by El Diablo
Custer,

Can you quote what you wrote about what would be acceptable for the mystery shot?

I'd like to take a look at that and if necessary (with grear's approval) share the shot with another trusted forum member to make sure there won't be any gametime dispute.
I never clarified anything about the mystery shot. The original quote he made was something:

"100 from ft, 100 from 3 pt, 100 from another spot on the court" I said booked to that.

This, to me, implies the standard shooting motion(or a natural basketball motion), which I am pretty confident this is not the case. Basically I think any requirements forcing me to perform a certain action during my shot are against the spirit. This excludes standard basketball things like layups, hooks, etc.

I don't remember my original language in terms of unknown athetlic competition though.

The only thing I do know is that I said something about it not having an inherent bias towards certain types physicallities
08-11-2015 , 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by CCuster_911
I never clarified anything about the mystery shot. The original quote he made was something:

"100 from ft, 100 from 3 pt, 100 from another spot on the court" I said booked to that.

This, to me, implies the standard shooting motion(or a natural basketball motion), which I am pretty confident this is not the case. Basically I think any requirements forcing me to perform a certain action during my shot are against the spirit. This excludes standard basketball things like layups, hooks, etc.

I don't remember my original language in terms of unknown athetlic competition though.
I specifically informed you that the mystery shot met diablos approval, you then accepted. You're wiggling like a worm on a hook right now, this is ****ing hilarious lol.
08-11-2015 , 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by GREEAR10
I specifically informed you that the mystery shot met diablos approval, you then accepted. You're wiggling like a worm on a hook right now, this is ****ing hilarious lol.
I accepted your proposal which pretty much met said what I said above. Lol you
08-11-2015 , 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by mullen
Custer I think you'll be fine on the mystery shot, El Diablo said he thought it was fair enough and he's not exactly a G10 fan.
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Originally Posted by CCuster_911
Obviously. Because any shot he can make enough to make up the 20+ shot difference from the other two is going to have to be close to the basket. I was just laughing at how bitch made the dude is being.
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Originally Posted by CCuster_911
I have no doubt it has been. I am not worried.

Also you are not allowed to change the shot no matter what. So make sure you like it.
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Originally Posted by CCuster_911
He backed out of the 3 rounds. He is now trying to weasel all his eggs in the unknown shot basket. I'll let him because the more modifications he backs into the funnier his loss will be.
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Originally Posted by CCuster_911
I assumed left handed shots would be excluded due to the directly favoring certain people but I guess I did say body types.
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Originally Posted by CCuster_911
Book both
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL SHOOK
08-11-2015 , 05:07 PM
Grear, Custer:

I made my statement based on thinking Custer had only put this condition on it: "something about it not having an inherent bias towards certain types physicallities"

Based on that, the shot pretty clearly qualifies imo.

If it was: "100 from ft, 100 from 3 pt, 100 from another spot on the court"

Based on that, I wouldn't say the shot qualifies.
08-11-2015 , 05:08 PM
I am confused what your point is.
08-11-2015 , 05:08 PM
Someones confidence/cockiness went from 100 to 0 real quick. Real ****ing quick.
08-11-2015 , 05:10 PM
Custer, if you want out of our 300 totals bet, because the mystery shot has you #SHOOK I'll let you under the condition that...

We can just wager the full 2k on my 97.5 over/under. LMK.

This offer is only good for the next 2 business days.
08-11-2015 , 05:12 PM
So the shot is not "on the court"?
08-11-2015 , 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Michael888
So the shot is not "on the court"?
It supposedly was made during a game, so it would have to be, correct?
08-11-2015 , 05:16 PM
Yes, it's on the court. Custer is acting like such a scared pussy right now lol.
08-11-2015 , 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by CCuster_911
He has clearly showed he is using extra bets as incentive to practice and I think this was the driving factor for him putting half in the over under.
Custer,

Any action on Greear vs. 40 year old woman shooting contest is contingent on your OK.
08-11-2015 , 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by GREEAR10
Yes, it's on the court. Custer is acting like such a scared pussy right now lol.
Kind of like when you offered 500-2000 max with him and insta declined the max 2k, right? Pussy
08-11-2015 , 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by CCuster_911
Ya I know you think that. But irregardless of pressure shooting, unless he was sandbagging back like 4-5 month ago with tbab I can't imagine being much worse than 40% in this bet even if he does practice a bunch.

It's admittedly not as an insane number for him as I probably first thought. But if I say I'll bet something I will.

wasn't I in that conversation too?

that was in the late winter/early spring when I was staying 2 or 3 nights a week at school in the small gym by myself and shooting a couple hundred 3's and ft's.

can't remember if g10 and I pm'd about it or if the convo happened here, but I do distinctly remember thinking that he was probably underestimating how many from both spots he would make.

towards the end of when I was staying (once the weather started to get nice I wouldn't stay as much) I would say if I was strictly staying at the top of the key (I kept #'s on top of the key and 'wherever the ball went' random 3's separately) i was hitting 40/100. so if they don't have to go to both corners and wings and can just sit at the top, if he hits 40 then he only has to make 58/100 ft's.

how many ft's I'd make out of 100...I don't really want to talk about. lol started to be a mental thing I think, combined with not having the patience to go through the same routine 100 times in a row. then, when I started coming up short, using "muscle memory" as a term is kinda lame but there is something to be said about your form and constant repetition taking over, whether good or bad.

like I said, I can't remember where the convo took place, but I def remember questioning him if he really only thought he would make X/100 bc when I was playing 3x a week his numbers seemed really low.

I'm def taking over 30/100 hypothetically for both of them if they're shooting 100 from the top. now, if g10 makes say 35, going 63/100 from the ft line isn't as out of the question right?

p.s. (lol at 'irregardless')
08-11-2015 , 05:37 PM
"Another spot" doesn't get at the issue of exactly how a shot is made. For example, what if the mystery shot is an around-the-back-one-pump-left-handed layup? Sure, the layup portion of it is fine, but are those fair qualifiers? I suppose that might have an inherent bias against people with big bellies and no hops, but that's a pretty traditional HORSE-style shot and is probably legitimate.

In a historical aside, my brother crushed me with that shot. I could do it righty, no problem, but never got good at it lefty.
08-11-2015 , 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Howard Treesong
"Another spot" doesn't get at the issue of exactly how a shot is made. For example, what if the mystery shot is an around-the-back-one-pump-left-handed layup? Sure, the layup portion of it is fine, but are those fair qualifiers? I suppose that might have an inherent bias against people with big bellies and no hops, but that's a pretty traditional HORSE-style shot and is probably legitimate.

In a historical aside, my brother crushed me with that shot. I could do it righty, no problem, but never got good at it lefty.
Plus, what if you're not amphibious?
08-11-2015 , 05:45 PM
wiper, are you going to watch this live?
08-11-2015 , 05:51 PM
FWIW, this was the original post by Custer as booked by G10:

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Originally Posted by CCuster_911
One of those is not a skill.

Ill save you time. Yes your dick is bigger. Ill save you time, you are probably one of two people itt that cares about **** like that.

replace the dick with a measurable athletic skill and Ill blindly accept it. Pending the skill isnt directly height dependent


You can even keep the third one hidden until the day of the comp. PM it tot some regs itt to confirm its an athletic skill not favoring some predefined body type you fit, and lets do it.,

Will bet up to 2k
I accept
It seems like this clearly means it can't be a left handed shot, amongst other similar things, but it also wasn't originally booked as "another shot," or anything specifically basketball, at all.

Edit, this is also where the bet gets updated by G10:

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Originally Posted by GREEAR10
The more thought I put into it, I don't see a way to make ground balls fair. It's not like free throws, where it's the exact same thing every single time. Others have expressed the same idea.

What I am thinking, is 100 FT's, 100 3's, and 100 shots using my secret weapon, that you won't know until the day of. Best out of those 300 wins.

$500 min, $2,000 max.

The secret shot will be within court, it's not something absurd.
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Originally Posted by CCuster_911
Assuming the 3 events are separate. Ill book 2k. I am not summing up the counts.

Now we need an escrow for the $250 in good faith.

Still going to be neutral location unless you are paying for my gas+time.
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Originally Posted by GREEAR10
I don't want you getting lucky. I want this as variance free as possible, best of 300 shots, 100 FT, 100 3, 100 more from another location on the court. Won't be behind the backboard of anything.

You're really gonna try to bitch it up now?
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Originally Posted by CCuster_911
lol ok book. full 2k. neutral location
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Originally Posted by GREEAR10
Why do you keep trying to force me into betting $2,000? I said I would play for $500-$2,000, haven't made up my mind yet.

You live in Columbus?
Emphasis added by me. This really does seem to imply an actual basketball shot from actually on the court that is "not absurd." I kind of sort of leave it to El Diablo to make that decision, as the participants have. (left the "haven't made up my mind yet" because it's just funny.)

Last edited by citanul; 08-11-2015 at 05:57 PM.
08-11-2015 , 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by GREEAR10
I think 45/100 wins free throws

I think 26/100 wins 3's
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Originally Posted by wiper
wow, this is a pretty special post.





me neither. I think 60-65/100 wins the ft's and 30-35 wins the 3's.

I've shot hundreds of 3's several times a week after school for like a month now, and trust me, when you lose it while shooting 100 in a row, you really lose it. then, fatigue.

it's the same for both obv, but yeah, no way someone hits 50% 3's.

hell depending on the odds, I'd bet one of them doesn't hit 50% from the free throw line..




I'll bet $50 each on GREEAR on both the ft and 3-point challenges if/when anyone wants to back TBAB.

Wiper here you go.
08-11-2015 , 05:56 PM
Here are the bets I booked:



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Originally Posted by GREEAR10
The more thought I put into it, I don't see a way to make ground balls fair. It's not like free throws, where it's the exact same thing every single time. Others have expressed the same idea.

What I am thinking, is 100 FT's, 100 3's, and 100 shots using my secret weapon, that you won't know until the day of. Best out of those 300 wins.

$500 min, $2,000 max.

The secret shot will be within court, it's not something absurd.
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Originally Posted by GREEAR10
I don't want you getting lucky. I want this as variance free as possible, best of 300 shots, 100 FT, 100 3, 100 more from another location on the court. Won't be behind the backboard of anything.

You're really gonna try to bitch it up now?
Even includes a bonus of g10 backing out of his suggested ground balls.
08-11-2015 , 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Howard Treesong
"Another spot" doesn't get at the issue of exactly how a shot is made. For example, what if the mystery shot is an around-the-back-one-pump-left-handed layup? Sure, the layup portion of it is fine, but are those fair qualifiers? I suppose that might have an inherent bias against people with big bellies and no hops, but that's a pretty traditional HORSE-style shot and is probably legitimate.

In a historical aside, my brother crushed me with that shot. I could do it righty, no problem, but never got good at it lefty.
To me it directly implies the only thing changing is location.
08-11-2015 , 06:03 PM
CCuster,

Since things like these haven't been specified in the terms of the bet, you should probably consider taking advantage of them while G10 is shooting:

1. Cutting electricity to the lights in the buildling
2. Multitabling $15 sngs
3. Crushing beercans
4. Shooting him in the face with a water gun
5. Having Babs read posts aloud over skype
6. Installing a "you must be this tall to play basketball" prop next to the foul line

      
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