This is pretty much how I feel about the subject.

All of my recent encounters with authorities have been in situations where they have a right to question and conduct searches - mainly airports, international borders, boating and while fishing or hunting. All have been relatively pleasant. If I had given grief they would almost certainly have caused greater than necessary inconvenience at a minimum and potentially detention.

I understand and wholeheartedly agree with not volunteering information when it is clear that a felony has been committed, you are in an extended stop, and especially having been mirandized. I fail to see the harm in cooperating in routine matters.

I am also not an ethnic teenager in a high crime area.

Then create one.

I'm a girl. I get stopped by the cops but never ticketed. Must be the big pair I bring with me to every poker game.

No. It's completely pointless.

I understand.

A 2p2er had a long ask me thread about a situation in which he allowed a search knowing he had nothing illegal in his bag. It turns out he had some old perscription pills in the bag that he had forgotten about because they had been in the bag for a long time. He apparently did not have any way to prove he had a perscription for these pills.

His thread was about asking him about spending some time in prison. At least IIRC.

Did you link to the wrong topic because the opening of that one involves him having over 200g of GHB.

At least were getting away from the old "snitches end up in ditches" that was popular a few years ago with the same crowd.

Zangief,

Did you know for a fact your state did not have a "Stop and Identify" statute in place? Because what you did is a chargeable offense in some states.

those laws only apply to persons being detained. a cop has 0 right to ask for id unless he has probable cause and you are detained.

Then Zangief went through that whole charade for the ****s and giggles. All he had to ask was "Am I free to go?". If it isn't a detention, he is free to go without saying a word, shaking his head, nodding, hummimg, lol'ing or anything else.

At least that is what I remember from Barbri.

Snitches get unfriended these days.

Henry you are way too sophisticated to understand the boorish American legal system.

I wonder how many of you would withhold information about a crime when the possibility of you incriminating yourself was below 10%?

Depends what is the potential repercussion if you happen to incriminate yourself?

Also 10% is way too high. The scenarios we are talking about have probabilities approaching zero.

This is why I asked because it sure seems like he was detained to me?

At 10% yes you shut up. If you are connected in any way or have committed unrelated crimes yes you shut up.

People seem to think that the rejection of "never talk" implies that I must believe "always talk". You can use some sense when evaluating the situation.

Thread keeps on giving. You have no idea how law enforcement works outside of the tiny world you live in. You live in the above ground part of Metropolis, it's nice up there. Don't pretend you don't what it is like underground though. That would be silly.

As someone with no real exposure to your posts, I have no idea what you are on about. Are you a hoodrat or something? Are most people posting itt not upper middle class/+ suburbanite white/Asian north Americans?

If you are a hoodrat, don't ever talk to the cops. I'm fine with that advice. That isn't this threads demographic.

Why do you keep strawmanning when we are responding specifically to the claim that no one should ever talk, which means using our own situations to explain why it is not a bad thing to just answer the questions. Yes if you are some thug with past convictions in a sketchy part of town hanging out with other criminals then theres a higher chance you will go in for something you didnt do.

we get it already

Looks like George Zimmerman just lost his lawyers partly because he talked to the cops.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/04/1...-withdraw.html

great link. zimmerman is a perfect example of an innocent bystander with no involvement in anything who got in hot water by unnecessarily answering questions.

My bad, we're all white here. Do what ever you want. Big bonus if you're in a suit. Us suited up white types don't need to worry about ****. **** everyone else.

I'm no hoodrat. But you're right about demographic problems itt. Upperclass white people has far less to worry about than everyone else. Someone like Henry does not need to worry about **** when talking to the cops ldo.

I haven't laughed that hard in a while