LOLCanadaments works fine IMO

Heh, that's the thing about taking painkillers.

I bet it's not abnormal among people who've ever lost their full bottle of painkillers and found it a huge PITA to get it refilled within a few days of the last pickup. In the middle of a police search would be a lousy time to find out something I was doing was considered abnormal or sketchy.

Maybe I can even work in a killer line they've never heard before like, "Don't you have anything more important to do?" Here the overworked prosecutors still find time to go after stupid ****.

LOLCanadaments

That in itself is pretty sketchy.

We just had a US law student who summered at a prosecutors office who said pretty much the opposite.

The idea that cops and prosecutors are evil people just biting at the chance to put anyone in jail-- including people they think are innocent-- is ridiculous. It is a belief that is formed in certain demographics because the group as a whole needs it as a coping mechanism as the alternative is that their children and loved ones are criminals.

C'mon Henry, it's a big country and practically everything is enforced unevenly. I find it hard to believe you don't know that. Just look through one page of the 'ask a cop' thread and see how often, "It depends on the state" is the answer. Where specifically was that summer? You know what, forget it--it doesn't matter. "Pretty much" probably means "with exceptions".

I'm not talking about railroading people they think are innocent, and I'm not saying they're evil. Just that they're lawyers.

The coping mechanism I'm interested in is the one where people succumb to intimidation by the police, don't have anything go wrong, and then try to rationalize by declaring only criminals, morons, or folks trying to prove their manhood would act differently. Just because every argument is a peen contest for you doesn't mean the same for everyone else.

One of the most violent statements I've ever read.

My parents were first generation immigrants. My mom worked in a factory making frozen food and my dad worked construction. I was raised blue collar middle class. I have never had a trust fund of any kind nor have I inherited any great fortune.




It's amazing what we will eat nowadays, isn't it.

semi-grunching, but the above quote caught my eye.

In Florida, maybe due to all the seniors living here, tons of people carry their daily doses of prescription drugs in their purses/pockets since they have to take them throughout the day, like when they are at work or away from home. Obviously if you have to take something every six hours, no one expects that you are able to run home every six hours to take your pills.

My wife and I both are in the situation, and our prescription drugs come in 90-day supply bottles that are very large. The idea of carrying those around is silly.

So I would hardly think that most people never take their drugs out of their original bottles. That doesn't even make sense.

In addition to ^^^, almost every person I know who uses prescription medication doesn't take just 1 pill a day, there's usually a multitude of pills, and having to carry 6 different bottles is just ridiculous

I joke that mom swallows half the pharmacy and she uses one of those super-standard pill boxes that divvies up the pills throughout the day.

I carry my pills in one bottle in my messenger bag and one of them is a big no-no w/o a prescription. I'd still let the cop search me neway and even point it out. I'm such a risk taker.

Since there hasn't been a story told in a while I'll tell about my dumbass buddy...

He was working and his job was to set up a some kind of display at Miramar Air Force base for an airshow. Well he also sold weed on the side and he "forgot" that he had 2 ounces of weed, separated into 3 different bags in his truck. (he says he forgot, I just think he's dumb enough to think he could take weed onto a base and they wouldn't search). So obviously they search his truck and find the weed. Apparently, the military didn't want anything to do with it and called in SDPD. Somehow my buddy bull****ted enough with the cop that they didn't charge him with "intent to distribute" and only charged him with transporting. Once the court case came around he ended up with a $250 fine when he pled down to possession under an ounce.

Now, if he didn't talk to the cops they would have charged him with intent to distribute, transporting and possession, which in turn probably gives him some sort of jail time.

2 oz of weed carries jail time?

1 oz is a felony in alot of the US AFAIK

2 oz packaged for sale does...or i should say usually does...

There is a big difference between seniors or people who are on daily prescriptions having their daily or even weekly pills in a different pill carrier and someone having of bunch of loose OxyContin.

being in separate bags means "packaged for sale"? i mean, 2oz is enough weed that it would be unwieldy to stuff into a single bag.

anyway, i thought most states had more or less decriminalized such trivial amounts and just issued some sort of fine. i know ohio does for like 4oz or less. i guess only a few do tho.

damn doing research ohio actually has some of the softest penalties. oh well, moar ya kno. ofc ill never be in possession of pot so it dont matter.

I agree, but the law doesn't necessarily see it that way. Granted most reasonable police officers can figure out if someone is just using their daily medications but if the person is not talking, the officer has to figure out why this person has these pills with incomplete info.

Which I think is a pretty good argument for why they should talk.

lol, of course they're not evil. But they are biting at the chance to put people in jail. It's their job ffs.

Henry gonna henry.

just to clarify, your position is that they would rather put a person in jail who they know is innocent than no one at all

I have no idea how you'd pull that conclusion from my post. I don't think prosecutors spend a whole lot of their time considering the innocent/guilt of the people they are trying. I would assume they look more at the evidence that has been presented to them and whether or not it can support a conviction.

I find this attitude astounding.

Well, there's your pothead dogwhistle post for 4/15/12.

All potheads, take it to Ohio.

"Collateral damage"

Henry specifically said they aren't biting at the chance to put people they think are innocent in jail.

You responded that they are biting at the chance to put anyone in jail because its their job, which implies they do not care if they think the person is innocent.

Yes they consider the evidence. If the evidence points towards innocence (or at the very least not guilt) then in the overwhelming majority of cases they arent just going to try to put the person in jail anyway.

Why is that? Admittedly I don't have tons of experience in criminal law, so I am not trying act like an authority on the subject. But when a case gets to an assistant states attorney (the one that actually does the work) they are following orders from above them. If their boss wants them to prosecute the case they will do so to the fullest of their abilities.

When it comes down to it the States Attorneys office is just another political body. While it would be nice to think that we lived in a world where a states attorney can win political points for being a responsible citizen who use restraint in enforcing the law that is not always the case. They're responding to the system of incentives that has been created for them. And it just so happens that in America we like blood thirsty states attorneys who catch big time criminals and put people behind bars for massive amounts of time.