can you eli5? my lizard brain thinks water is good a source of life, something we can't bathe nor survive without

I'm assuming he means that if one of your pipes busts or something you can immediately shut off your water as opposed to the city or maintenance dude doing it?

I didn't even know wtf a water key was - some good learning for theft down the road

GD,

since you've got a flexible line, it seems like you could take a sawzall and notch the back of that cabinet, drywall, and stud, enough to slide the stove back.

I stumbled along without one for years by using a crescent wrench and a screwdriver to turn my water valve off/on. A few years ago the city replaced our water meters and now, for some inexplicable reason, the valve is recessed into a space where I could not easily use my old tools--not to mention it being even tougher on my back. Bought the longer water key sold by my local Home Depot and, unfortunately, have had to use it a few times already. So much easier and cleaner. One of my best purchases ever.

Last February my nextdoor neighbors had multiple pipes burst in their attic. It completely ruined the inside of their beautiful new home. It's still under construction to this day.

Since their house had been flooding and I knew I had a frozen pipe, I decided to get my water key and do a test run of shutting down my water (never done that at this house). I got the key and removed the manhole cover. I then went back inside to get a wrench to turn the water off. As I walked through the kitchen I noticed water starting to come from under the stove. It was the most fortunate of timing because I was able to shutoff the water within like a minute of the water flowing from the burst pipe.

I had to pull up my wood floors in the kitchen to dry the water which was a pain in the butt but that was the extent of the damage to my house.

ahh, we can shut that thing off from inside the house, but also private wells too

You're right mark, there's room back there. In fact, the instructions say to run the gas line in a 14" x 3" area in the rear, right up against the wall.

The problem is, the gas stub was run years before I had a gas stove; it was just stubbed out as part of finishing the basement. Unfortunately, the finisher must not have been familiar with this either, thus the stub coming through the floor (basement ceiling) inside the cabinet next to the stove instead of behind it.

When I got a gas stove, I punched a hole through the side of that cabinet, ran the flex line back there, hooked it up, and pushed the stove back in as best as it could. So, of course, the flex is between the stove's frame and the wall. That can't be right...even though it's been that way for years, seems like it's more likely to break being between the two (as opposed to being free in a 'good' installation). It's probably not as much of a problem as I think, but also not right.

So, to move the stub means taking out a patch of the basement ceiling and extending the gas line a little. Or, looking at it, saying "**** it, too hard", and putting the patch back in place.

Thanks de cap! Hadn't seen this when I wrote the above. That's kind of what I was thinking when I wrote about going into the wall the through the studs, but I was more on drilling a hole through the stud and threading the flex through there.

You're right, I imagine a ~1x1 notch in the wall wouldn't hurt structural integrity much, and would be much easier for any future maintenance issues.

Plus, any time I get to pull out the ol' reciprocating saw, it's a good day.

What a very strange post by riverdog.

I would drill through the center of the stud and run the flex hose there. Doubt the notch is gonna ruin the integrity of the stud but I wouldn't want my flex gas line to be vulnerable

I'm pretty sure I'd go with the old tried and true, "If it ain't broke don't fix it".

Mods if this isn't appropriate for the thread please delete. But for those who have a mortgage that is backed by the government (such as FHA) you are entitled to a Forbearance (typically up to 180 days and then you can even do another 180 days after that) during the current pandemic status with Covid.

Your mortgage provider MUST give you the forbearance if you request it (provided your loan is government backed) and they cannot require you to describe your Covid-related hardship, all you have to do is claim you have one. In addition, you do NOT have to be delinquent on your mortgage for them to grant the forbearance.

A lot of mortgage servicers you'll be dealing with people who don't know the law, or make you jump through hoops to try and get your forbearance request through, plus many are short-staffed so you may be on-hold for awhile, be prepared for frustration.

There are different options for repaying/catching back up on your mortgage after the forbearance is over. As an example, FHA has one called the Covid-19 Standalone Partial Claim. . A partial claim is a zero interest, no fee, junior lien on your property that will become payable when you sell your home, pay off your mortgage or your mortgage otherwise terminates. So essentially you could avoid mortgage payments for up to a year and then not have to pay that bill until you sell the home or pay off the remainder of your mortgage.

Here's a link to the fact sheet direct from the HUD website with more info:

HUD Fact Sheet

There's a lot to be said for bosco and mark's ideas too.

What will probably happen is, on the next day it rains, is warm enough to open the windows for ventilation (just in case!), and I wake up with motivation, I'll get back in the cabinet with a little hand saw, cut away a little of the drywall, and see what's what.

Hardly ever rains in Denver, so we're good for a while.

I got this solid nickle hand hammered sink... it's so big I have no idea what the hell I am going to do with it.
I happened to be walking thru a designer's place and made the comment how nice it was and she immediately said... 'wanna buy it?'
It happened to be from a client's home and she had no use for it.
$4,000 sink for $250.... yes please.

$250 sink is going to turn into a $25,000 kitchen remodel. Not a bargain IMO.

Nostradidacemus has prophesied it!

Stamp out $250 worth of nickels then hit the slot machines.

Exactly my thoughts also... if I just toss it in the garbage I might make it out of this issue with only a 250 in losses.

Didace is obviously right, but a planter, water feature, dog bath... a really nice utility sink? For $250 I would find a use for it.

I'll take Facebook marketplace for 300 (at least),Alex...

You didn’t question why they were selling a $4,000 sink for $250?

Probably because they tried to sell it for $3500, $3000, $2500, $2000, $1500, $1000, $750, $500, $400, and $300 already but have been unsuccessful because it’s a highly specific item that requires a precise location. It’s obviously not going where the sink is that you took the picture from unless you’re spending thousands to get new granite


You can get most of the things you mentioned for well less that $250. You’re just trying to justify overspending at this point. It’s not a bargain in any way

It's money already spent. Seems like MSchu18 liked it, so I assume it's better used in their house rather than trying to flip it for $50 (Eeyorefora number, not mine).


EDIT.... I also like the purchase regardless of it was overspending. Convert it to a range hood?

That is irrelevant to me.

It's worth 250 bucks to just let it sit in a spare bedroom waiting to be used.

I think it is fairly evident that a remodel is in order to be able to use this thing. I highly doubt it will ever be worth less than 250 dollars if that is your concern. these folks, whom I know personally, were not actively trying to sell the item... it was merely a windfall for the husband's contractor company as they refurbished the clients mansion. Yes it is used, yes it is in superb condition, yes it was a great buy.

I've never really liked the half moon shape of my counter so thus will be a good opertunity to change that...

judging by schu's posting here he was going to remodel that kitchen sooner or later anway

it's a sweet find and agreed the kind of people who wind up with extra 4k sinks laying around usually aren't too bothered with extracting max ev hustling craigslist

i'll buy it for $253.50 if you never find a home for it

My only gripe is that to maximize its value it should be used as a farmhouse sink. I'm not sure that works in Schu's place.


Although it does work with the black cabinets, imo.