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05-09-2017 , 08:01 AM
Moo, Bigot,

do you believe that if I drop a rock it will move towards earth with an acceleration of about 9.8m/s^2
05-09-2017 , 08:47 AM
Jupiter is very visible right now. I will be tracking it to see how much the moons move.

So far one thing that doesn't add up in heliocentrism is the fact that jupiter was full 2 days ago while the moon was still gibbous.

And who can explain this



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do you believe that if I drop a rock it will move towards earth with an acceleration of about 9.8m/s^2
What goes up must come down. No one is arguing with that.

You need to explain how "what goes up must come down" includes water sticking ABOVE the air at the bottom of your model of BALLCRAP. Or the moon safely hovering above us. Or the earth not barelling into the sun.

And don't give me your pseudo scientific excuses (dark matter, dark energy, etc). Those are just gaps waiting to be reverse engineered
05-09-2017 , 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by WotPeed
I had never heard of someone referring to the "sun speed" as a useful astronomical measurement. I actually went to timeanddate.com and couldn't find anything on their entire website related to "sun speed". Let's be generous and assume it's there and that I just couldn't find it. What do you think it means and how would it be measured?
(Generically) A way to measure would be to find when there is no shadow cast, then move to west location and when there is no shadow cast again you'd know Sun was in same location then work out the math.
05-09-2017 , 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by El Diablo
Moo,

How much are you willing to wager that it's impossible to fly across Antarctica?
Moo - You missed this one.
05-09-2017 , 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by moo buckets

What goes up must come down. No one is arguing with that.

You need to explain how "what goes up must come down" includes water sticking ABOVE the air at the bottom of your model of BALLCRAP.
If I drop a rock from the north pole or the south pole it will fall towards the earth in the same way if it hits the earth it stays "stuck" against the earth, if I do it with water the same thing happens, we call this gravity you call it "what goes up must come down".

The fact is that Newton's theory of gravity can very accurately describe how this rock moves towards the earth, whether you call it gravity or not. This theory can also be used to describe the movement of planets.
05-09-2017 , 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by moo buckets
Ever hear of a little something called CHEMISTRY? i hear they teach it at school in lience class.
moo,

You've lost me here.... You're claiming that density is really what we're mistaking as gravity, right? So you're relying on an argument based on chemistry to support your claim, and at the same time you're claiming that science is a lie?

Is chemistry responsible for keeping us on the ground or isn't it?
05-09-2017 , 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by moo buckets
You need to explain how "what goes up must come down" includes water sticking ABOVE the air at the bottom of your model of BALLCRAP. Or the moon safely hovering above us. Or the earth not barelling into the sun.

And don't give me your pseudo scientific excuses (dark matter, dark energy, etc). Those are just gaps waiting to be reverse engineered
It's not hovering, it's orbiting. The moon has forward momentum (purple in the gif) and that combined with gravity (orange) makes the object move in a curve.



(This gif is not about the moon but about a thought experiment called Newtons cannonball.)
05-09-2017 , 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by moo buckets
Jupiter is very visible right now. I will be tracking it to see how much the moons move.
Why? I thought I read up thread that the images you see when you look through a "telescope" were all pre programmed as part of the conspiracy?
05-09-2017 , 09:44 AM
Mmmkay, the Earth is accelerating 'upward' at a constant rate of 9.8m/s^2. Since the Earth is pushing you upwards, you are moving at the same speed as the Earth When you jump (or any object goes up), your (its) upward velocity is for a moment, greater than the Earth's so you rise above it. But after a few moments, the Earth's increasing velocity due to its acceleration eventually catches up.

So what goes up must come down really means, what goes up will eventually be overtaken by the earth as it rises at 9.8m/s^2, at which point the object that went up will appear to have come down. Hope that helps.
05-09-2017 , 09:47 AM
Chase, unless you're moving upwards faster than 9.8m/s^2 you will always be on the ground. It has nothing to do with gravity.
05-09-2017 , 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by 1BigOT
(Generically) A way to measure would be to find when there is no shadow cast, then move to west location and when there is no shadow cast again you'd know Sun was in same location then work out the math.
I'm sorry but you're going to have to do a bit better than "work out the math". You have described a way to measure the time of the motion of the sun through the sky. How do you turn a measurement of time into a measurement of speed, which is what that "sun speed" calculation supposedly does? (Hint: it involves distance).
05-09-2017 , 10:59 AM
Moo, bigot-

The sucess of any model depends on the accuracy of the observations used to construct it and, ultimately, on its ability to predict future events and observations. The tenets of heliocentrism and a spherical earth, coupled with Newtonian gravitational laws and Einstein's relativity, have, for example, allowed the "indoctrinated" folks to very accurately predict the planets' orbits and such things as solar and lunar eclipses. As-matter-of-fact, I'm so convinced of their prediction that I'm taking off work on August 21, making an hour and a half drive to witness totality that will last for 2 minutes and 33 seconds at my destination.

Without commenting on the validity (or lack thereof) of the observations used in the construct of your FE model, I would appreciate it if you could tell where to plan another total solar eclipse trip in 2019. I'm especially interested seeing the assumptions used in your calculations.

Iow, please show your work. Thx.
05-09-2017 , 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by moo buckets



What goes up must come down. No one is arguing with that.
So you do believe that some force is at work. You just choose to not call it gravity.
05-09-2017 , 11:21 AM
This thread got so much more readable putting moo on ignore.
05-09-2017 , 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by gregorio
Mmmkay, the Earth is accelerating 'upward' at a constant rate of 9.8m/s^2. Since the Earth is pushing you upwards, you are moving at the same speed as the Earth When you jump (or any object goes up), your (its) upward velocity is for a moment, greater than the Earth's so you rise above it. But after a few moments, the Earth's increasing velocity due to its acceleration eventually catches up.

So what goes up must come down really means, what goes up will eventually be overtaken by the earth as it rises at 9.8m/s^2, at which point the object that went up will appear to have come down. Hope that helps.
I wonder how old the earth is in this theory, that it's been accelerating at g for that long.
05-09-2017 , 11:38 AM
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Mmmkay, the Earth is accelerating 'upward' at a constant rate of 9.8m/s^2.
Shill post. No one thinks this except for balltards trying to debunk the model by misrepresenting it.

So now you guys are claiming that light gasses exist beneath heavy gasses? So much for your beloved gravity. You guys have what's referred to in intellectual circles as "cognitive dissonance"

Not surprising, since it's the only way to support the globe model.
05-09-2017 , 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Neil S
I wonder how old the earth is in this theory, that it's been accelerating at g for that long.
It's even more amazing, because we know that g isn't exactly the same everywhere on earth which means that the earth is being torn apart under that model.
05-09-2017 , 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by moo buckets
So now you guys are claiming that light gasses exist beneath heavy gasses? So much for your beloved gravity. You guys have what's referred to in intellectual circles as "cognitive dissonance"

Not surprising, since it's the only way to support the globe model.
This is an amazing post.
05-09-2017 , 11:59 AM
moo,

What is fog?
05-09-2017 , 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by moo buckets
Shill post. No one thinks this except for balltards trying to debunk the model by misrepresenting it.


Checkmate
05-09-2017 , 12:36 PM
moo,

Do you believe a compass or any similar navigational aid like that can be used to make sure you are traveling in a certain direction?
05-09-2017 , 12:39 PM
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Why? I thought I read up thread that the images you see when you look through a "telescope" were all pre programmed as part of the conspiracy?
Watch the whole video. You're wrong, sadly.
05-09-2017 , 12:45 PM
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Why doesn't gravity pull the earth into a spherical shape?

The earth isn't pulled into a sphere because the force known as gravity doesn't exist or at least exists in a greatly diminished form than is commonly taught. The earth is constantly accelerating up at a rate of 32 feet per second squared (or 9.8 meters per second squared). This constant acceleration causes what you think of as gravity. Imagine sitting in a car that never stops speeding up. You will be forever pushed into your seat. The earth works much the same way. It is constantly accelerating upwards being pushed by a universal accelerator (UA) known as dark energy or aetheric wind. This acceleration does not violate physics and according to Einstein's theory of special relativity, we can accelerate forever without reaching the speed of light.

There are also other theories of flat earth thought that maintain that the earth sits on an infinite plane, with the sun moving overhead. Gravity works much like it does in a round-earth model, and the earth will never form into a sphere because the plane is endless.
https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/...6288#msg566288
05-09-2017 , 12:53 PM
lol globetards gonna globetard

for what I think is the 4th time.. You are linking to CONTROLLED OPPOSITION

This is like when someone posts an article from infowars, breitbart, or wikileaks and thinks its true.

Lies and deception, for one purpose:

DIVIDE AND CONQUER
05-09-2017 , 12:53 PM
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According to Flat Earth Theory, gravity does not exist. Instead, there is a force that produces identical effects as observed from the surface of the earth. This force is known as "Universal Acceleration" (abbreviated as UA).

Objects on the earth's surface have weight because all sufficiently massive celestial bodies are accelerating upward at the rate of 9.8 m/s^2. The mass of the earth is thought to shield the objects atop it from the direct force of UA. Alternatively, it is possible that the force of UA can actually pass through objects, but its effect on smaller bodies is negligible (similar to gravity in RET cosmology, which only has a noticeable affect on very large objects).

However, not all Flat Earth models dismiss the theory of gravity. The Davis Model proposes that the earth is an infinite plane exerting a finite gravitational pull (g), which is consistent with Gauss's Law.
https://wiki.tfes.org/Universal_Acceleration

      
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