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05-07-2017 , 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by amoeba
How do you know the earth isnt an infinite column and we are at the top of it?
Very good point! You could be on to something.
05-07-2017 , 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by amead
I ask again the question that the flatties are too scared to answer:

If you and yours truly believe in the flat Earth, why have none of you ever taken the simple step of chartering an aircraft and flying to the ice wall, take a quick peek at the unknowable beyond that can only be speculated about, and take some pics with a GoPro of the edge/dome/whatever and blow the lid off the biggest conspiracy that mankind has ever known?

Someone could literally do that TODAY. The investment would pay for itself by orders of magnitude, and you'd instantly be the most sought-after person in the world. You'd change the course of human history.

You could do this today. You could have done it yesterday. You could have done it over and over every day for the last 50 years. And yet, nobody ever has. And you want to tell us about Occam's Razor?
05-07-2017 , 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by moo buckets
LOL what other possible way could exist? The earth on top and the sky on the bottom? Where does the water go?

NO NO how about, the water on the bottom, the sky in the middle and the earth on top? Yeah, that could work!!! LOL GRAVITY IS MAKE BELIEVE, REVERSE ENGINEERED CRAP.
"Because it has to" isn't an answer. Why can't air be on the bottom? What actually causes denser objects to settle lower than less dense objects?
05-07-2017 , 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by ninetynine99


Snaring a TBAB is the only item on the transgender agenda that I've read about so far, but I haven't read the whole thread. Surely there is more to it than just that.
05-07-2017 , 12:38 PM
99 wins the internet once again
05-07-2017 , 02:00 PM
Last time this came up, the pretended flat-earthers went away (and ShaneG actually banned himself) because they couldn't explain why cyclones and anti-cyclones rotate in opposite directions in the northern hemisphere as compared to the southern hemisphere. Northern hemisphere cyclones rotate anti-clockwise, northern hemisphere anti-cyclones clockwise. In the southern hemisphere, the situation is reversed. This occurs because of the rotational speed gradient of the Earth from pole to equator -- the Coriolis effect -- and the respective pressure gradients of cyclones and anti-cyclones. The flat-earth model cannot explain it.

And any mention of density and buoyancy is an admission of the law of gravity.
05-07-2017 , 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 1BigOT
Show me a picture of a shuttle or satellite that isnt CGI. Should be simple enough since they're so many (:
There are some beautiful pictures taken by Bormann and Lovell on Gemini VII and Schirra and Stafford on Gemini VI when they rendezvoused to within 1ft of each other in low Earth orbit in December 1965. Perhaps you're too young to remember.

From Apollo 9 in March 1969, there's a much reproduced photo of David Scott, in his bright red helmet, emerging from the hatch of the command module Gumdrop, photographed by Russell Schweickart from the porch of the lunar module Spider with which Gumdrop was docked. The Earth, including the curvature of its horizon, can be seen just over 100 miles below. Computer-generated imagery was not possible at that date. There is a less well-known picture, taken at the same time by Scott, of Schweickart taking Scott's picture, with his custom-made pistol-grip Hasselblad camera well to the fore. There are also pictures of Spider later on, undocked and 'flying' free, with the Earth below and the clouds and their shadows on the ocean. Had you been around at the time, you would know all this.
05-07-2017 , 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 1BigOT

I'm not sure what you're trying to say with the first video (or the second one for that matter), but the simplest explanation for what you're seeing is that it's a view of a star or planet through an unfocused telescope. Occam's razor combined with my limited astronomical experience tells me so.

Another FE myth debunked!

Last edited by ChaseNutley26; 05-07-2017 at 03:14 PM.
05-07-2017 , 03:29 PM
Explored cave today with my kids. Saw lots of stalactites with drops of water clinging to the bottom Flat Earth Fustercluck: The Merge.

Also I train judges who do death investigations in Texas. Several of them got called out for when Columbia disintegrated on re-entry. What exactly was it that they saw? Where was it coming from?
05-07-2017 , 04:18 PM
Imagining a conversation between moo and his kids.

"Daddy, why is the sky blue?"
"What else would it be?"
"Why don't fish breath air?"
"That wouldn't make any sense."
05-07-2017 , 05:36 PM
Its heavy because its heavy duh.

Surely this is actual mental illness not just simple ignorance?
05-07-2017 , 08:36 PM
MooBuckets, are planets and moons sphere shaped? Do they spin? Do they orbit the sun? Do they orbit the earth? Are they "in relations" to the heliocentric earth?
05-07-2017 , 08:36 PM
ARE THERE PLANETS? DO PLANETS MOTHER ****ING EXIST OR ARE THEY PUT THERE BY NASA??
05-07-2017 , 10:57 PM
Moo,

How do you explain hurricanes in a FE society?
05-07-2017 , 11:32 PM
Kind of curious how compasses work in the FE model..."North" should be the center of the disc, right? so if you start at any point, facing North and draw a line between due West and due East, then extend that line and travel in either direction along that line, you will eventually reach the ice wall, right?

In the lolglobehead model, if you start facing North, draw a line between due West and due East and then travel along that line, you would eventually return to your starting point.

I wonder what would actually happen in a practical experiment? If only there were some way to verify this...
05-07-2017 , 11:38 PM
Moo,

Bigfoot. You thoughts?
05-07-2017 , 11:57 PM
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I'm also a bit confused about the whole heavier things = lower concept.
What goes up, must come down. Heavier things come down first (Earth and Sea are the heaviest) and as you go up, the other, lighter things find their level. There's this picture I've seen, where someone filled a glass with an assortment of objects and liquids. The liquids (vegetable oil, water, dish soap, honey) all are perfectly separated and the objects (cherry tomato, bottle cap, bolt) find their own levels in the glass. It's cool.

How does that prove water is pushing UP at the bottom of the globe while the air sits underneath it. Unless your mind is so hopelessly globewashed you forgot that what goes up must come down.

GLOBEHEAD>No, because any place on a globe is the top! Therefore the water is always beneath you
FLATMAN>Oh wouldn't that mean that if two people travel to each other from 500 miles away, they're both going 250 miles downhill? What if two other people were meeting us from two different locations?! Wouldn't they also be going downhill!? Is the earth a giant hole? How can you have your globe AND live on it, too?

How does 'what goes up, must come down' stretch so far to "confirm" that the moon and the sun are millions of miles apart and are somehow the exact same size when viewed from the ground. THE EXACT SAME SIZE. Out of all the possibilities, and BY ACCIDENT?

If you believe the earth is a ball, you'll believe ANYTHING
GLOBEHEAD>

Spoiler:
05-08-2017 , 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by amead
I'm also a bit confused about the whole heavier things = lower concept.

I'm sure you'll agree that we have measured the weight of various gasses, and know that for example oxygen is heavier than helium which is heavier than nitrogen, which is heavier than hydrogen and so on (I haven't heard that scales were illuminati controlled as well).

So, how high up does the oxygen go? Is all of the oxygen lower than all of the helium/nitrogen/hydrogen?
You forgot to dodge this one.

Oh wait, no you didn't.
05-08-2017 , 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by moo buckets

What goes up, must come down.
Why?
05-08-2017 , 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by moo buckets
What goes up, must come down.
Why?

Last edited by gregorio; 05-08-2017 at 12:17 AM. Reason: lolslowpony
05-08-2017 , 12:19 AM
For the rest of the folks who aren't just trolling or being willfully obtuse or just being stupid or whatever, this is pretty awesome:

05-08-2017 , 12:21 AM
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Another question, which is just restating what others asked earlier: when a substance of greater density encounters one of lesser density, what determines the direction of travel of the first substance? Or, by what mechanism does the denser substance know to go down as opposed to any other direction, and the less dense go higher?
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"Because it has to" isn't an answer. Why can't air be on the bottom? What actually causes denser objects to settle lower than less dense objects?
Why is 7 a bigger number than 5? How does 5 know to come before 7? Why doesn't 7 think to come before 5? What can we call this?

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I would also appreciate an explanation of what "weight" actually means in this alternate theory, since my academic indoctrination has most definitely programmed me to think of it in terms of gravitational forces acting on something based on its mass. Especially when we're talking about the scales we're talking about here, what with planets and all.
You answered it yourself. Mass is weight. No need to attach us all to a gigantic black hole because of that. Seems like a stretch to EVERYONE at first, before the PROGRAMMING starts to kick in.

By the way, planets are not other rocks or gas balls in a vacuum, according to FE. Lurk more. Read the thread. Just suck it up and do it.

RakeMePlz: See above

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Well obviously when you, say, put a penny on top of a dollar bill, the penny sinks under the bill because it's heavier. DUH!
If you don't know the difference between a liquid and a solid then so and so science class, uneducated such and such, prekindergarten knowledge etc etc.
05-08-2017 , 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by amead
You realize that private citizens own airplanes too right?
anyone with enough money to rent a plane is in on it
05-08-2017 , 12:35 AM
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Why?
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Why?
What is this, the philosophy forum?

Look, it's only "DOWN" due to PERSPECTIVE.

If the earth were actually upside down, diagonal, or sideways we'd still be stuck to it. And we'd still think its beneath us. What other way could it work? It's a sequence. From heavy to light. Very simple to grasp.

On the other hand, how obvious is it that this is supposed to justify the wonky, off center orbits of comets? Or the moon constantly facing us 100% of the time. Things you can actually SEE.

You have to start from scratch. All these references back to globe theory shows you guys aren't getting anywhere.
05-08-2017 , 12:37 AM
And so we end another day where the flat earth society decides that making YouTube videos is a more effective way of blowing the lid off the biggest conspiracy in the history of humanity, than say, hopping on a plane with a GoPro.

      
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