The kanger subox is ****ing amazing. I have vapor coming out my ass at 26 watts.

just got the kanger subtank plus. ive been vaping a 50/50 vg pg mix but wanna go with a higher vg prob 80/20 whats the min. wattage you should be vaping at?

I've been vaping the biggest Kanger Subtank with max VG at 25 watts with zero dry hits. I've gone higher but to me the flavor starts to suffer

cool thanks man

I'm running a new setup I'm happy with. I vape for nicotine, not interested in cloud.

iMVP 3.0

Kayfun 3.1

I am changing coil philosophy away from the Rip Trippers microcoil I originally learned.

I use 30 kanthal with 10-12 spaced wraps. Comes about 2.2 ohm.

That spreads heat out over the wick. I get fewer scorched hits, and obviously longer battery life. 8.5 watts, lol.


I do give it a full second to warm before beginning the toot.

Chip;

I will hit dry if I'm anywhere between 1 and 1.5 Ohm. When I'm at 0.5 to 0.8, I don't go dry. Vaping at 2.2, while interesting, never worked well for me. I'm not a cloud person either and my current Ohm gives me good flavor and throat hit (and large clouds, but see beginning of this sentence).

I have a personal issue where I'm trying to sneak by while playing cards. I've been caught a few times, but it's not yet to the point where the floor has established a pattern with me being a sneak table vaper. Trying to maximize buzz while minimizing cloud. That 2.2 coil is noisy. Like corn is popping in there.

This type of behaviour will just give the non-vaping public a reason to hate us if they don't already.

Imagine you're not a smoker/vaper. You live in a society where indoor smoking has been banned for years. All of a sudden, you see some person indoors breathing clouds of what looks like smoke. What do you think their reaction will be?

^^ so much this! Most people still don't know what vaping is. How many times have we been asked for a lighter from a smoker?

To most non-smokers, vaping and smoking are the exact same thing until they are exposed to it more. I've been around a few true-blood "I hate smokers because they smoke!" and seen them not care about vaping. This is because the responsible vapers still treat it like normal smoking, the anti-smokers see and smell it is very different and start to change their minds a bit. Exposure and acceptance to something different happens slowly, not tomorrow. I think that as long as we don't push our new stuff on people, smokers and non-smokers for the most part will come around. Granted, we may not be able to sit indoors and do it wherever we want, but at least we won't get hateful stares when we are walking down the street.

Not in California. They all know what it is. Recent scenario:

Dealer: Sorry you can't do that.

Hero: ok

Seat 3: why the hell? it's not smoke. we don't care (looks around table)

Dealer: people put THC juice in them.

Seat 3: what the **** else would they put?

Table: lol

People in California all know what vaping is and don't have a problem with it? Things sure changed fast in the two weeks since I moved away.

I mean, if dealer knew what vaping was, he would know you can't put THC in your device.

You also wouldn't be trying to stealth vape.

Something don't add up here (Californians are way over the top anti-smoking).

I was in a vape shop today and the dealer was pointing me toward the box mods. I was looking for a new hybrid mech so not in the market. I asked him if these new devices are lasting longer than 3 months. The guy told me yes, but you still have to be careful of how low you build because, if you build too low, it will burn the chip.

Wait, really? I thought it had protection in the circuitry? -- Nope, the device won't fire but you can still fry out the chip.

Does that makes sense to anyone?

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I also had a relatively disappointing day at some other shop. I needed to get a new build and I decided to get it rebuilt down at the shop because I didn't have any tools at home. I tell him I need it at 0.8 Ohm or so. He asked me how many wraps I liked. I didn't think anything of this, but I told him I didn't care as long as it read 0.8 Ohm. He takes out 30g wire and wrapped it 10 times. It didn't hit very well and I asked him how many Ohm it was reading: ".85 on my meter."

I was vaping it as I was going home, but it was just horrible. I screwed it on my reader and it read at 2.2 Ohm. I wish he would have told me he didn't know how to build and let me do it myself.

lol @ this passive "oh, be super nice and hope they accept us someday" bull****.

some smoker with funds needs to get his lawyers off their asses and prove there is no significant public harm from vapors so we can shove the ruling straight down the PC crowds collective *******s and vape away where we use to smoke without a second thought.

+1 lol at bending over backwards for idiots.

This is exactly why we should be vaping in places we're not allowed to smoke. We are not smoking. What we are doing bears no relationship to smoking, and is in no way harmful to anyone. Banning vaping makes as much sense as banning perfume.

If we go around skulking in corners, and only vaping where cigarettes are allowed, people will persecute us as the smokers have been persecuted. The burden should be on them to prove that vapor is harmful or detrimental. That the sight of vapor offends them is not a good enough reason. The sight of someone chewing bubblegum offends me. I don't have the right to restrict it, just as they have no right to restrict vaping.

I'm not a total toolbag about it. In restaurants and movie theaters I don't go around blowing massive clouds yelling "Come at me bro!", but I do discreetly use my device pretty much everywhere I go. If my doctors were fine with me using it in the chemo treatment room with 50 other cancer patients, I'm pretty sure it should be acceptable anywhere.

/end rant

I want it regulated for safety reasons (mainly battery concerns but also some minor concerns regarding e-juice), but I also know the government will most likely do a horrendous job writing up the regulations. Regulations which will probably be influenced by the tobacco companies. So I'm kind of torn here. Legitimacy could be good for e-cigs but so much can go wrong.

Damn, my nitecore charger worked fine for one day now it won't turn on. Tried holding down the buttons and stuff.

The power cord is removable, if it's like mine. Make sure it's pushed in all the way.

Yeah, and I hear a crackle when I put it in sometimes. Maybe it's just the screen. I'll leave a battery in it for a few hours and see if it's charging. I can still charge directly from my ecig anyway.

i dont vape nicotine anymore at all. All shatter all day, and I easily walk around the poker room (mall, grocery store, whatever) vaping no problemo. I dont do it at the table too often, because the vapor does smell like sticking your nose in a sack of chronic for a second but it is plenty stealthy unless you cough your head off...

Prolly wanted my donk ass in the game

If you go down to 0mg nicotine, is it the same as an electronic shisa? I never really understood the difference between e-cigs and e-shisha.

I think "e-shisha" means, "I paid more for inferior equipment". As far as I can tell, the only difference to e-cigs seems to be the no-nic aspect.

Yeah ymmv but the stuff I've seen mainly seems to be a way to market outdated vape stuff to a different demographic.