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11-16-2010 , 01:03 AM
Can you explain the benefits of dripping to me? I've tried it a few times where I drip the liquid onto the part of the atomizer that burns (I'm still a noob so I don't remember all the terms correctly, or if I'm even doing it right) and I don't really get a good hit off it at all. It's almost like when you overfill the cart. I figure I'm probably doing it wrong.

I also prefer the non-drip method bc it's easier to just pull it out, take a few puffs, and put it away. Much better than having to take the cart off, open up liquid bottle, drip, then close bottle...especially while driving.
11-16-2010 , 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Brock Landers
I haven't tried that juice. After trying MANY companies, I now just get my juice from AVEJUICE.com. Most of their juice is pure PG, which I like. Try any or all of their tobacco flavors, you won't be disappointed. Their non-tobacco juices are excellent also. Not sure about Canada deliveries.

As far as the Puresmoker V3, you will love it!!!! It does 6 volt or a very long lasting 3.7 volt battery (its the 17670 battery, lasts like 3 days of heavy vaping). The only reason I use the ICON more is because of it's smaller size. The V3 is awesome! (btw, the ICON is basically a miniature V3 that can't do 6 volts). HAPPY VAPING!
Good to hear, for now I just ordered the 6V batteries but I'll probably order the 3.7 very soon because battery life has been bugging me lately. How is the battery life using 6V on the V3?
11-16-2010 , 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Brock Landers
I haven't tried that juice. After trying MANY companies, I now just get my juice from AVEJUICE.com. Most of their juice is pure PG, which I like. Try any or all of their tobacco flavors, you won't be disappointed. Their non-tobacco juices are excellent also. Not sure about Canada deliveries.

As far as the Puresmoker V3, you will love it!!!! It does 6 volt or a very long lasting 3.7 volt battery (its the 17670 battery, lasts like 3 days of heavy vaping). The only reason I use the ICON more is because of it's smaller size. The V3 is awesome! (btw, the ICON is basically a miniature V3 that can't do 6 volts). HAPPY VAPING!
What will the higher voltage battery do for me? I've got a couple of batteries for my ego, that I rotate on the charger, so battery life isn't too much of an issue for me. Will it give me a better throat hit?

Is it also a giant battery? I saw a pic earlier in the thread of some guys ape and it looked as big as a pack of cigs with a tube to drag off of.
11-16-2010 , 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by The Iron Sheik
Can you explain the benefits of dripping to me? I've tried it a few times where I drip the liquid onto the part of the atomizer that burns (I'm still a noob so I don't remember all the terms correctly, or if I'm even doing it right) and I don't really get a good hit off it at all. It's almost like when you overfill the cart. I figure I'm probably doing it wrong.

I also prefer the non-drip method bc it's easier to just pull it out, take a few puffs, and put it away. Much better than having to take the cart off, open up liquid bottle, drip, then close bottle...especially while driving.
I, now, only drip. Basically you take a new atomizer and put 4 or 5 drips of liquid directly on the bridge/coil. You can search Youtube for instructional videos. When you run out put 2 or 3 drips to refill, that should last you 8 or 10 hits. Here is a video, not sure if it's great, I haven't watched it fully.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThkUGWwS4EE
11-16-2010 , 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by The Iron Sheik
What will the higher voltage battery do for me? I've got a couple of batteries for my ego, that I rotate on the charger, so battery life isn't too much of an issue for me. Will it give me a better throat hit?

Is it also a giant battery? I saw a pic earlier in the thread of some guys ape and it looked as big as a pack of cigs with a tube to drag off of.
The higher voltage will give you a bigger throat hit AND more vapor. The "pack of cigarettes" sized thing was probably a "box mod". That's a whole different thing. If you want high voltage check out the Puresmoker V3, I highly recommend it:
http://www.puresmoker.com/product_p/prodigyv3.htm

There are many other higher voltage mods to choose from. PM me if you are interested, I have a few different ones but IMO the V3 is the best.
11-16-2010 , 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Brock Landers
The higher voltage will give you a bigger throat hit AND more vapor. The "pack of cigarettes" sized thing was probably a "box mod". That's a whole different thing. If you want high voltage check out the Puresmoker V3, I highly recommend it:
http://www.puresmoker.com/product_p/prodigyv3.htm

There are many other higher voltage mods to choose from. PM me if you are interested, I have a few different ones but IMO the V3 is the best.
Thanks for the help.
yeah I think I will try the v3. When I ordered my ego I was initially going to go with the v3 but read the ego was more noob friendly so I went with that instead.

What's the difference between the adapters? They've got penstyle, 510, or mini? I think I'm going to go with the full kit 6v. Is there anything else I should order with it? When I did my first order I didn't order additional blank carts and was using my last one for an extended period of time while waiting for the next order, so I would like to not make that mistake again.

If you're ordering from puresmoker I would highly recommend the fire & ice liquid. I did the 50 liquid variety pack and that one was head and shoulders above the rest. It's like crack to me.
11-16-2010 , 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by The Iron Sheik

Thanks for the help.
yeah I think I will try the v3. When I ordered my ego I was initially going to go with the v3 but read the ego was more noob friendly so I went with that instead.

What's the difference between the adapters? They've got penstyle, 510, or mini? I think I'm going to go with the full kit 6v. Is there anything else I should order with it? When I did my first order I didn't order additional blank carts and was using my last one for an extended period of time while waiting for the next order, so I would like to not make that mistake again.

If you're ordering from puresmoker I would highly recommend the fire & ice liquid. I did the 50 liquid variety pack and that one was head and shoulders above the rest. It's like crack to me.
Go with the 510, that seems to be what most people, myself included, prefer, plus, you can use the 306 atomizers with that connection (my atomizer of choice, low resistance). I like Puresmoker's juice but I prefer AVEJUICE.com's more. I do kinda like the Puresmoker Silver Leaf tobacco. I agree with the Fire and Ice, it kicks like a mule!
11-16-2010 , 02:16 AM
Brock I think the Low Resistance attomizers are only good with 3.7v though right?

@ The Iron Sheik, if I am right then that means that you can only use the standard, or high resistance with the 6v battery. I may be wrong though.
11-16-2010 , 02:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Newff
Brock I think the Low Resistance attomizers are only good with 3.7v though right?

@ The Iron Sheik, if I am right then that means that you can only use the standard, or high resistance with the 6v battery. I may be wrong though.

This is absolutely correct. You use the low resistance atomizers ONLY with a 3.7 volt device. If you use them with a higher voltage device they will burn out/pop. Like Newff said, you can use a regular atomizer with 6 volt OR a "high resistance" atomizer that will knock down the 6 volts to the feel of a lower voltage device. Many feel the 6 volts is TOO heavy/strong and use a high resistance atomizer to lower the strength of the hit.

From my experience, 3.7 volt with a LR atty is similar to a 5 volt device with regular atomizer which is similar to a 6 volt device with a HR atomizer. All these should hit around the range that many consider the "sweet spot" of vaping.
11-16-2010 , 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Brock Landers
I agree with most of this for sure. Many people start with the standard 510 Vaporlife or whatever starter kits and find that the battery life or the minimal voltage they offer aren't satisfying. Most people in the vaping community seem to come to the conclusion that they need a longer battery life and possibly a higher voltage to get the experience they are looking for. This can be achieved by tossing the 510 starter kits and getting a "mod". A mod (like the Puresmoker Icon or V3, the GlV2, or whatever) is an upgrade on the short battery life, low voltage kits many get at first. With a mod, you can get battery life that lasts a full day or longer, and hits at a voltage that is hard enough and satisfying. I stopped using my initial 510 starter kit the day my first "mod" (Puresmoker's V2 (now the V3)) came in.

New vapers, please consider getting the Riva or Ego or one of those clones as your 1st E Cig. Coupled with a low resistance atomizer, they give you an all day battery with the strong hit many look for when stopping analogs. Then, you only need to find the juice that is good for you.

I've been doing this for about a year and have found that a person looking to get off analogs needs only to find the right setup to be perfectly satisfied.

+1. I had a failed attempt in Feb to switch from analogs to e cig. I was using a cig look a like model . 901 , automatic , not sure what kinda voltage the batteries produced but def wasn't 3.7. It just wasn't cutting it and i can't really suggest anybody who was a serious smoker and is serious about quitting try anything similar. Once i recieved my Riva 510 it was night and day.
11-16-2010 , 10:15 PM
Brock, is there a link you could provide to the things that I would need to buy, provided I would like to purchases this and have it going within a week or so? I'm having trouble wading through all the lingo
11-16-2010 , 11:03 PM
I smoke about 15 camel light 99's every day and feel like a large part of my addiction is to the horrible chemicals in these cigarettes.

Wondering about people's ecig experiences who are used to smoking that amount of chemicals in name brand cigs.
11-16-2010 , 11:19 PM
At the minimum, I'd buy the following (Joye 510 fittings):

a couple (at least) decent batteries - Ego / RiVa or better. + charger
a variety of atomizer, LR atomizer, cartomizer. find what suits you well
a few selection of juice, there are many flavours. high nic content 24mg/100+ advisable if coming from a 1 pack/day+ full strength cigs.

I get most stuff from www.eastmall.net. It comes from China so it'll prob take a whole week to get to you. very good prices.

The above lot comes to $103 with shipping:
Riva starter kit (2x batt, 2x atty, charger) $40
5x LR atty $15
15x (3 types x pack of 5) cartos $13
5x 20ml liquid $20
shipping $15

Brock probably has far better info on US suppliers. e-cigarette-forum.com is great info too.
11-17-2010 , 04:05 AM
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Originally Posted by samdash
I smoke about 15 camel light 99's every day and feel like a large part of my addiction is to the horrible chemicals in these cigarettes.

Wondering about people's ecig experiences who are used to smoking that amount of chemicals in name brand cigs.
I'd say your right about being addicted to not only nicotine but I can't say forsure. I smoked about the same amount as you..and quit the same day I receieved my e-cig in the mail. In the past 11 months I probably had 5 real cigarettes and that was only if I was out at a party and my battery died or I forgot my e-cig home or something. I'd try it if I were you.
11-18-2010 , 08:18 PM
Ok fair enough. I think I'll give it a shot seems like it works! I'll probably write up some feedback in a few months.
11-18-2010 , 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by _dave_
At the minimum, I'd buy the following (Joye 510 fittings):

a couple (at least) decent batteries - Ego / RiVa or better. + charger
a variety of atomizer, LR atomizer, cartomizer. find what suits you well
a few selection of juice, there are many flavours. high nic content 24mg/100+ advisable if coming from a 1 pack/day+ full strength cigs.

I get most stuff from www.eastmall.net. It comes from China so it'll prob take a whole week to get to you. very good prices.

The above lot comes to $103 with shipping:
Riva starter kit (2x batt, 2x atty, charger) $40
5x LR atty $15
15x (3 types x pack of 5) cartos $13
5x 20ml liquid $20
shipping $15


Brock probably has far better info on US suppliers. e-cigarette-forum.com is great info too.
This would be the setup I would also recommend to a beginner. I haven't used Eastmall but they are reputable (you can usually get products from most USA companies in 2-3 days). You can find most of these things at Nhaler.com although I'm not a huge fan of their juices. Like I said before, I like Avejuice.com for my E liquid. Libertyflights.com also has a big selection of Chinese-made juices which tend to be pretty good and relatively cheap.
11-18-2010 , 10:17 PM
Also, as all of this info can be intimidating to a newbie, check out e-cigarette-forum.com like dave mentioned. Also, vapersforum.com is helpful. Both places have new vapers sections to check out and are helpful in answering any questions. They also have device and liquid review sections that might help you decide what products would work best for you.
11-18-2010 , 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by samdash
I smoke about 15 camel light 99's every day and feel like a large part of my addiction is to the horrible chemicals in these cigarettes.

Wondering about people's ecig experiences who are used to smoking that amount of chemicals in name brand cigs.
You might have a point. I didn't have any trouble with the quitting of the 4000 or so chemicals but I did get a sore throat and a lung infection a few weeks after quitting. I've heard that many people get the "quitter's flu" from the detox of all the crap they are no longer inhaling. A buddy of mine also quit and had major muscle soreness and cramps in the left side of his body for a week or so, he thought he had a stroke or something!
11-20-2010 , 03:47 PM
Someone who works in an office with a PC will want a kit with a charging case (USB - plugs into computer to charge). Someone who works from home will want a USB pass-thru. Actually everyone should probably buy a USB pass-thru IMO.

It all sounds confusing at first but an e-cig is only 3 parts.
1) A plastic cartridge that holds filler material and liquid nicotine.
2) An atomizer to heat the above liquid.
3) A battery to power the atomizer.

That's it: power -> heat -> vapor.

This guy has tons of liquid reviews on YouTube - http://www.youtube.com/user/moobyghost

I bought from cignot.com they had the lowest prices of anywhere and they're in chicago so it only took 1 day to get to me.
11-20-2010 , 07:42 PM
As far as E cig reviewers go, I have found these two the most helpful:

http://www.youtube.com/user/GrimmGreen

http://www.youtube.com/user/igetcha69
11-21-2010 , 03:47 AM
meh I had a usb passthru for a while, didn't like it - cable too short wouldn't recommend over big batteries. didn't like being "tethered" either, feels odd in the hand compared to battery freedom
11-21-2010 , 04:37 PM
I love my passthru. I rarely use my batteries unless I'm on the go. Unfortunately my passthru is on the fritz right now and I need a new one = (.
11-21-2010 , 06:02 PM
I've trier a few of these E,smoking gadgets & to be honest, I haven't been too happy with any of them

the first one I had was the mini e-cig, it didn't have any code number that was all that was on the box,

well, that thing was pathetic, the amount of vapour you got out of it was pitifull, you couldn't even taste it. one of the batteries was dead when it got here & both the replacement & the 1 origonal working battery had failed by the end of the second week even though it got hardley any use

then I got the Epipe601, now that was pretty awsome to start with it gave a fantastic amount of vapour thick, strong, & satisfying, for the 1st cartrige anyway

so as the first cartrige seemed to be empty I put the next one in but didn't get much more that a thin wisp out of it, so I tried dripping & that worked better for a while, then that too stopped

I sent it back for a replacement & the new one worked perfectly for a few weeks untill I ran out of carts & sent off for some more which got delayed in the post & by the time they got here the pipe had stopped working altogether as the micro switch had packed up while it sat dormant

so I ditched that & got a screwdriver, now that one works well & I"ve had it about 12 months now but I can't get on with it because the vapour it gives off is pretty harsh & I just end up having coughing fits with it

it's not too bad if you take shallower pulls on it but it doesn't quite hit the spot if you do that & still end up craving

I just keep it for if I'm going somewhere I can't smoke now
11-21-2010 , 06:27 PM
got a vaporking. It's pretty sweet, but would anybody else agree that it takes a lot of effort to use? Inhaling gives a ton of resistance for me, or am I doing it wrong?
11-21-2010 , 07:59 PM
For the last 2 posts:

Get an Ego/Riva with a LR atty and direct drip!!!!

      
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