7 years ago i was diagnosed with Depression, This probably sounds bad, but my dog is the only reason I left my home on a regular basis. If it hadn't been for her, I'd easily go weeks without going out...my dog saved my life because she forced me to get out of bed every day and I'm not sure I'd be here anymore if it wasn't for her. I know there is no magic cure for depression but having something depend on you is one of the few things that can really keep you going.

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Don´t think so. Depression is not a question of social status. There are a lot of depressed rich people and millions of poor people who don´t get depressed.

the data on money and happiness is very clear. once you have enough money to pay your bills, adding additional money does not make you any happier.

google "what happens to lottery winners"

I'm afraid that money can put you into an irredeemable class of society.

As in, people will be more accepting of failure if you are destitute or young. Rich people can be held to a norm of alienation. Also the thought of mainly interacting with other wealthy people as a rule kind of makes me feel sick and combative.

My brother has severe depression and is currently out of state at rehab for it. I tell my parents he's going to have stop drinking and my mom is like "that's not the problem, he can go weeks without drinking if he wants". In the last 10 years, he's had 2 dui's, 1 alleged assault of a woman, hospital 2 times for bar fights. He lives at home with my parents, of course, and is always fighting with them. He has no job, i mean he did, but he didn't get the full time job so he quit's.

He treated me like crap growing up. He only calls me when he needs something fixed with his phone, computer, etc.


Sorry for the ramble's, but my parents want me to encourage him and wish him "luck".

Not sure what to do on my end.

https://al-anon.org/

Cherry is a gimmick. The dude already was here few times with basically identical posting. I would say...... he definitely can't be helped here.

Question: Does it make a difference? You can´t enjoy anything anyway when you are depressed.

Why are you trolling the depression thread?

Mods: feel free to delete this posting after otb&c.

I agree it's not about money specifically but social status seems to be a factor for some people - which might be why the most obvious counter examples to money (unhappy lottery winners) are people with low social status but high wealth.

But at least you can afford to pay rent and eat if you're too depressed to work.

I feel for anyone who suffers from depression but having said that I do think there's something to be said for looking out for yourself to a certain extent. Certainly family support is important but I also don't think you should feel an obligation to extend your support if you don't want to.

I'm probably going to be flamed for this but I do get sick of people using mental health problems as an excuse for poor behaviour, especially abusive behaviour. I have someone close to me that I have basically had to just cut from my life as they are so toxic and abusive. I do hope he improves but I doubt it as he has been the same way since his teens and is now in his 50s. He made his mother's life a misery and cost her a fortune but she always defended him and catered to him even though he behaved appallingly to other family members. Idk I'm biased so probably not the best person to comment.

I think it is easier if you just think of ****ty behaviors as "unacceptable." You really don't need to worry too much about why the exhibit those behaviors too much, since it seems reasonable to assume that everyone acts the way they do for some set of reasons.

And that´s even worse and brings you even more down! As we discussed earlier it´s important to keep your daily life up as long as you can. Many people (including myself) are still able to work even though they are depressed and they even wanna work because it does them good to just keep up their normal daily life.

And for the case depression gets really so severe that you can´t work anymore, we (Germany) have insurance. Your employer (if you are an employee) is not allowed to fire you because you are sick. You get a medical certificate from your doctor and you can take your time to get healthy. For unimployment we have/pay insurance.

We pay so much for insurances (oh my goodness!!! ), I´m always cursing, when I have to pay it but at least when something like this happens you don´t have to beg on the street and starve.

Sorry, that was off topic but now back to topic: Keeping up your daily life can even prevent that your depression gets more severe. Somebody who is rich and doesn´t have to work will give up too fast and his depression will worsen and worsen.

No, you won´t get flamed. At least I don´t flame you. Partially I can totally agree with you, on the other hand: When you´re mentally ill, I mean really severly mentally ill, how much responsibility are you able to take? For what part of your life are you responsible?

I indeed had a friend who was the same as your friend. He was rich. He was super handsome! He had everything: women, money, success, looked awesome....but was mentally severly ill (ADHD and Borderline Syndrome). His mom and his grandma always defended him, always gave him right, always pampered him, catered him, gave him everything he wanted. He played with women, with their hearts, oh, he could be charming, wow! He broke so many hearts. He was used to get everything he wanted.

But on the other hand: He was suffering constantly! He got also physically very ill - years and years of substance abuse destroyed his body. He never learnt to take responsibility for his own life, for himself. He got away with everything: because mom and grandma always defended him, because he was extremly handsome and charming, because of his money.

He was not a bad person at all. But I always ask myself: Was it his severe mental illness, his poor education with years and years of just beeing pampered by everybody? (not me by the way! He appreciated that he finally found someone who tells him right away the TRUTH!)

Whose fault is it that finally he brought pain and misery to his family and friends and died at the age of 39 from a heart attack?
Was it his fault? My fault? families fault? Was his behaviour his fault? Or was he behaving like that because he was mentally ill? Was his death his own fault because of his lifestyle? Or was his lifestyle only a consequence of beeing mentally ill and a "spoiled brat"?

I think a little bit of everything.... but you know, it´s extremely hard to tell, in what way a mentally ill person can be responsible for his behaviour.

Can you blame a depressed person for committing suicide? Yes and no!

I don´t know!

I just started an entire thread to talk about why I'm depressed. It hasn't hurt or helped. When I did visit someone about my feelings he talked to me for 5 minutes, diagnosed me as depressed, and gave me a prescription for 4 different anti-depresents. My neurosurgeon said that rather than take all that **** they would ween me off Keppra(seizure med) which causes depression and in some cases thoughts of suicide and see how I felt. Once i stopped taking that I got a little better. I'm able to work and maintain most relationships so I don't feel like I need meds. Yeah I get a little sad and stick to myself for the most part but that's always been me. I've never been a fan of pills that would cover up your true feelings....my current seizure med, Lamictal, is also used to treat bipolar disorder and I can def tell my mood changes when I don't take it.

The problem is, if you are too depressed to work, you are probably also too depressed to go through the channels and all the trouble to be approved for disability. At least that was the case for me. It's a catch 22. Actually I'd say if you have enough energy to go through the application you really aren't too depressed to work so you probably shouldn't be approved. The only way the system can work is if someone else does all the work for you, and when I was to depressed to work I had no one knowledgeable and helpful enough to do that for me.

It's similarly problematic dealing with doctors. You need to be of sound mind to reduce the chance of getting ****ed over by careless/clueless shrinks. There actually should be a manual for what to expect going into treatment and patients' rights... it's borderline criminal.

So I tell it to you one more time (wrote it already in your thread):

You gotta be happy to be rid of this slu.....pardon, woman!

When I'm depressed, I try to think outlandishly positive, frequently smile randomly and laugh out loud randomly, lol.

Depression is not a laughing matter.

actually this is decently good advice.

we're such dumb chimps that if we act "as if" things are true, even when they aren't, they start to become true over time.

I'm glad I found this thread. You might have guessed but I also suffer from depression and have been diagnosed with schizophrenia. I tend to show a lot of the schizophrenia negative symptoms in comparison with the positive symptoms (of which there are none!)

I'm going to interpersonal therapy but struggle with this, since I have no clear goals in life that I want to achieve.

Negative Symptoms:
Social withdrawal.
Anhedonia.
Lethargy.
Reductions in speech.
Apathy.
Blunted emotional responses.

Oh, Schizophrenia is a very very bad disease and the antipsychotic drugs are really a pain in the a...! I got once Olanzapin prescribed because I had psychotic depression, eeeew! Psychosis really sucks!