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07-07-2009 , 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Kos13
Dan and Will are the two best imo. I'd give the edge to Will because he did it twice, but they both took very similar paths (being the "odd man out" every single week, but just owning people without them realizing it). Personally, I'd love to see Mike Boogie play without Will just to see how he would fare on his own. Still, you have to give him and Will an unbelievable amount of credit for destroying the "all stars" in BB7. I mean, it was Kaysar's big goal to boot them both out, he gets HoH like the second or third week, and Chilltown talks him into putting up two nodobies. They wore friggin' Chilltown shirts the entire time. How they both got to the final four against the rest of the supposed "all stars," I'll never understand.
I've learned to never underestimate the ability for moderately intelligent people to outsmart morons.
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07-07-2009 , 01:32 AM
Survivor and BB should do a swap of past great contestants from each show.
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07-07-2009 , 02:32 AM
After watching All Stars over again, I truly believe Chilltown routinely lucked out. For starters, I don't blame BB6 for not getting rid of them right away. Will throws every challenge and Mike Boogie looked like a chump wing man at that point. If you win HOH, then you're goal should be to get rid of people are who are capable of winning competitions and target. Allison, Nakomis, Jase, Diane...4 people who fit that build. If you make it to the final four and see Will then you should be thrilled knowing you can beat him in any challenge. The perfect storm allowed them to go deep. Two clear cut alliances battling it out with them playing both sides.

Will in BB2 never took off until the house eliminated the CT alliance. There wasn't even a veto in this game. Totally different strategy.
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07-07-2009 , 02:52 AM
If you know where to look, you can see what new houseguests are in the 4 different cliques. Supposedly a returning player will be placed in each clique. That's means 4 returning players. Speculation is that Jessie from BB10 is one of the 4 and that he may be the first HOH.

Wow, I think this is going to be a great season. I can't wait until Thursday. Has anyone ordered the feeds yet?
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07-07-2009 , 02:58 AM
Big Brother sucks.
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07-07-2009 , 03:14 AM
This team thing might not be so bad. Any smart player will be a "good teammate" just enough to keep his teammates happy while making alliances with players from the other teams. I don't know how the HOH's will work but it does seem to have potential for a lot of game play/backstabbing.

My only concern is getting a cast full of people that just want to be good team players and not go to that next level of gameplay. But if some former BB players are in the house it should get ugly pretty quick.
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07-07-2009 , 03:17 AM
I don't think the team thing is going to last too long. They are eventually going to break up and play as individuals.
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07-07-2009 , 03:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Chilltown
After watching All Stars over again, I truly believe Chilltown routinely lucked out. For starters, I don't blame BB6 for not getting rid of them right away. Will throws every challenge and Mike Boogie looked like a chump wing man at that point. If you win HOH, then you're goal should be to get rid of people are who are capable of winning competitions and target. Allison, Nakomis, Jase, Diane...4 people who fit that build. If you make it to the final four and see Will then you should be thrilled knowing you can beat him in any challenge. The perfect storm allowed them to go deep. Two clear cut alliances battling it out with them playing both sides.

Will in BB2 never took off until the house eliminated the CT alliance. There wasn't even a veto in this game. Totally different strategy.
Competitions are not that important. Getting rid of either Will or Boogie (or both) immediately was the smart move for BB6, and they blew it.
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07-07-2009 , 04:06 AM
If it's defined alliance vs defined alliance then I'd say they're very important. Vote off Will, Jase wins HOH, and you're toast. They know Will will snake to the best position and if you hold the power then you can control his votes.
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07-07-2009 , 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Chilltown
I love Chilltown so much I use it as my screen name but pretty sure Dan from last season is the greatest player ever.
Solid username imo. I don't remember Dan doing anything spectacular. Refresh my memory? Didn't really like last season.

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Originally Posted by Kos13
Most people from the Survivor thread agreed that he's the most entertaining reality player of all time. According to Probst, America hated him, which doesn't surprise me; I think your average viewer is too dumb or doesn't have the right sense of humor to truly appreciate him.

Not sure if you saw the recap show, but someone brought up a great point about Coach's lie detector thing that summed him up perfectly: if quizzed about being captured by pygmies, Coach would pass the test...not because it happened, but because he truly believes it did. If you don't see the humor in a guy like that, I just feel sorry for you.
Naw, I don't watch the recap shows. Not sure exactly what you're saying about being captured by pygmies.

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I've learned to never underestimate the ability for moderately intelligent people to outsmart morons.
Lol. Applies to so many things in life.

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Survivor and BB should do a swap of past great contestants from each show.
This would be pretty interesting. Not sure how BB players would fare in the wilderness though. I mean, a lot of them had colossal problems with being on PB&J.

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Originally Posted by Chilltown
I don't blame BB6 for not getting rid of them right away. Will throws every challenge and Mike Boogie looked like a chump wing man at that point. If you win HOH, then you're goal should be to get rid of people are who are capable of winning competitions and target. Allison, Nakomis, Jase, Diane...4 people who fit that build. If you make it to the final four and see Will then you should be thrilled knowing you can beat him in any challenge. The perfect storm allowed them to go deep. Two clear cut alliances battling it out with them playing both sides.
Agree with every statement. Although Will is a smart dude & seemed like he actually tried (& came pretty close iirc) in the HoH comp where they were on the football field (that Boogie won).

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Competitions are not that important. Getting rid of either Will or Boogie (or both) immediately was the smart move for BB6, and they blew it.
So take out people who won't be HoH & therefore won't have a chance to even nominate you for eviction vs taking out people who CAN win HoH & nominate/evict you & you would rather pick the first option?
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07-07-2009 , 05:53 PM
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I don't remember Dan doing anything spectacular. Refresh my memory?
He was on the chopping block seven days in. Dan and Brian were together, and everyone expected Dan to go second. He threw competitions and buddied up with Keesha and Memphis to save his ass. He threw a competition so Steven would seem significantly stronger than him, and it worked. He pushed Keesha (and her jealousy) into booting Angie. Then, he and Memphis took over the game. He must have done something right, too, to win 7-0...and that's after two guys (Ollie and Jerry) basically said they'd never vote for him in a million years. He ran into some bad luck early on, but Dan's game from week two on was pretty fantastic.

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Naw, I don't watch the recap shows. Not sure exactly what you're saying about being captured by pygmies.
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Did you not watch the regular episodes either? His story was pretty unforgettable.

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So take out people who won't be HoH & therefore won't have a chance to even nominate you for eviction vs taking out people who CAN win HoH & nominate/evict you & you would rather pick the first option?
Being HoH isn't always a good thing. In fact, if you go back and look at the people who win HoH early on in the game, they usually don't make it very far because people get pissed at them and/or consider them big threats. I don't see how anyone can argue that being HoH is more important than being smart; Will (purposely) never won HoH because he didn't need it. He was able to manipulate his way through the game - twice! - by just talking his way out of being nominated. He charmed his way into everyone's good graces and convinced them he was not a threat. He didn't need HoH because HE WAS ALREADY THE HOH. He made the decisions for people without them realizing it, leaving no blood on his own hands. That's why he's such a great player, and that's why it's insane to not boot him immediately.

HoH is more important once you get down to ~7 players, but I'd argue that it's actually bad to have early on in the game. If you can play the social game well, you don't HoH to get things done.
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07-07-2009 , 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Kos13
He was on the chopping block seven days in. Dan and Brian were together, and everyone expected Dan to go second. He threw competitions and buddied up with Keesha and Memphis to save his ass. He threw a competition so Steven would seem significantly stronger than him, and it worked. He pushed Keesha (and her jealousy) into booting Angie. Then, he and Memphis took over the game. He must have done something right, too, to win 7-0...and that's after two guys (Ollie and Jerry) basically said they'd never vote for him in a million years. He ran into some bad luck early on, but Dan's game from week two on was pretty fantastic.
This makes me want to consider re-watching the season. But it's a toss up b/c I disliked most of the cast.

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Did you not watch the regular episodes either? His story was pretty unforgettable.
Once I realized how incredibly annoying Coach was, I stopped paying attention when he spoke, & I tried to forget any of the nonsense that he may have said. Also, I may have missed the first episode or two.

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Being HoH isn't always a good thing. In fact, if you go back and look at the people who win HoH early on in the game, they usually don't make it very far because people get pissed at them and/or consider them big threats. I don't see how anyone can argue that being HoH is more important than being smart; Will (purposely) never won HoH because he didn't need it. He was able to manipulate his way through the game - twice! - by just talking his way out of being nominated. He charmed his way into everyone's good graces and convinced them he was not a threat. He didn't need HoH because HE WAS ALREADY THE HOH. He made the decisions for people without them realizing it, leaving no blood on his own hands. That's why he's such a great player, and that's why it's insane to not boot him immediately.
Not sure why you're stating all of this, as I'm not arguing that getting HoH is important. Regarding the bold text above, I still don't see how taking Will out would've been a good move for BB6 when almost everybody in the house already wanted to take out the infamous BB6 alliance. Why would you take out the one person who's not gonna win HoH? Maybe I'm just dumb, but I'd much rather take out an enemy who actually has a chance that is > 0% of winning HoH.
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07-07-2009 , 07:18 PM
Once I realized how incredibly annoying jin22 was, I stopped paying attention when he spoke, & tried to forget any of the nonsense that he may have said.
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07-07-2009 , 09:56 PM
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Once I realized how incredibly annoying jin22 was, I stopped paying attention when he spoke, & tried to forget any of the nonsense that he may have said.
Lol.


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07-07-2009 , 10:29 PM
Read on another site about the twist:

Spoiler:
The rumor is that there are four returning house guests. Each one will be put into a different BB-made 'clique'. People are saying that it's going to be Jessie, Brian, Sheila and Cowboy. Apparently one of them won the first HOH (most people believe that to be Brian)
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07-07-2009 , 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by GambleAB
Read on another site about the twist:

Spoiler:
The rumor is that there are four returning house guests. Each one will be put into a different BB-made 'clique'. People are saying that it's going to be Jessie, Brian, Sheila and Cowboy. Apparently one of them won the first HOH (most people believe that to be Brian)
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What is the fascination with Cowboy? He was an alternate for All Stars, and he's on this season, too? Lame.

GOGOGO BRIAN!
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07-08-2009 , 12:10 AM
For those of us still hoping there's a chance Coach is a houseguest, I have just checked his blog and twitter, and neither has been updated since June 30th. So there could still be hope!
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07-08-2009 , 01:35 AM
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For those of us still hoping there's a chance Coach is a houseguest, I have just checked his blog and twitter, and neither has been updated since June 30th. So there could still be hope!
I don't know if this is serious or not, but in ain't happening.

Also, latest reports are that only one previous houseguest will be on the show. It is the one who won an endurance competion with the other 3 candidates.

We'll see tomorrow whether this is fact or fiction.

Has anyone subscribed to the feeds yet? Here is a deal that expires at 11:59 pm tonight. I've never subscribed this early but I think that I'm going to go ahead and do it. Anyone else?

http://www.real.com/bigbrother?eos=t..._10484108_BB10
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07-08-2009 , 01:43 AM
I was just gonna ask to see if it's worth getting. I mean, I know it's only $30, but I'm guessing it's extremely boring about 95% of the time. Has anyone bought the feeds in the past?
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07-08-2009 , 01:49 AM
Man what is this fascination with Brian? I really don't get it.
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07-08-2009 , 04:05 AM
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I was just gonna ask to see if it's worth getting. I mean, I know it's only $30, but I'm guessing it's extremely boring about 95% of the time. Has anyone bought the feeds in the past?
It can be boring at times, but overall, it's worth it. There are 4 different screens to choose from so you're not watching the same thing at all times. They might have one outside, one in the kitchen, in the different bedrooms, etc.

I would highly recommend it if you are a big fan of the show.
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07-08-2009 , 01:31 PM
FYI, Julie Chen is going to be on Craig Ferguson tonight if anyone wants to watch.
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07-08-2009 , 01:56 PM
Just ordered the live feed. I can grind longer with a house full of people on the side of the screen holding back the wave of loneliness with personality and drama. It should pay for itself pretty quick. Also I'm a huge perv.
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07-09-2009 , 04:36 AM
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FYI, Julie Chen is going to be on Craig Ferguson tonight if anyone wants to watch.
Thank you, for that.

Craig Ferguson is not as funny as he thinks he is.

I don't like how Julie Chen talks about "we" did this and "we" did that like she's part of the creative team for BB.

Also she said that there is only going to be 13 house guests, only one of whom we've seen before but that was almost immed followed by a commercial talking about 12 house guests so who knows.
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07-09-2009 , 10:11 AM
Brian returns to the big brother house in 10 hours. Despite that, I'll still be watching.

I'm already mentally preparing myself for the ugly girls to band together and boot the hot girls in the first couple weeks.
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