From what I've read of the feeds, the Braden side seemed to obviously know who flipped but wouldn't say it because he was HOH, but then later on Ronnie got them talking seriously about whether it was somebody else.

What is his best move? I think that Jessie-Russell-Natalie is way too big of a power alliance. He may be able to get them to take him far, but he'll still always be no higher than 4th or 5th in the pecking order. The other half of the house is way more discombobulated and he could possibly find a place with them even as a leader, especially if he can get them to trust him by putting up the Athletes and/or keep lying. He is NEVER getting to F2/F3 with Natalie/Jessie/Russell if they have anything to say about it, but he could very possibly convince most of the other houseguests.

I hate to be defending the dude because I do agree with you, it was a dumb move. I'm just a sucker for fancy play, lol.

I think he gained reasonable doubt. The longer the show goes on and the more he tells people what's going to happen (like he did with telling Braden's crew he was going to be put up minutes before Jesse told them), the more people are going to doubt what they know. Right now people might think they know he for sure did it but if in the next couple of weeks he plays to them he can then say "come on, I was honest about this and this and this, why would I lie about that?" and can then throw that blame on someone who is more quiet around the house.

Man I forgot how much Thursday episodes sucks.

That might work if he wasn't HoH, but how can he say he voted to keep Braden when he's clearly going to nominate two of "Braden's Five" this week? He's clearly not putting Jessie and Co. up, or he'd have just voted Chima out. Whether he likes it or not, he's picked his side, and as HoH, there's no way to hide it now.

These guys are so freaking arrogant right now they are making me sick.

There will only be 3 people who could go after Ronnie next week- 1 of Casey, Jordan, Jeff, and Laura will likely be gone. Michelle can't nominate him. Ronnie is pretty safe with everyone else until the opposite alliance is gone. Once they're gone, then this probably comes back to haunt him. Even if Casey, Jordan, Jeff, or Laura were to win HOH next week, I think there are still bigger targets- Russell, Jessie, Natalie that he wouldn't go home.

If this was actually Ronnie's thought process then I guess it's almost justifiable, but this is a much smarter guy than Ronnie defending Ronnie's moves with some justifications that make sense yet still seem way too aggressive for week one/two from a winning player.

For such an alleged BB historian, has he learned nothing from Dan/Baller/Boogie/Jun/Will? Winning HoH's early is a monstrous hole to climb out of. HoH doesn't become +EV until probably week 7 or 8.

No one smart enough to act on AB's above logic would be stupid enough to win HoH in week two.

My crush on Lydia is going to be hard to maintain. She's an idiot, is a lot less cute w/o bangs, and I'm not sure I can enjoy anybody who is willing to tolerate the walking cliche that is the gay dude.

The HOH competition was the stupidest thing I've ever seen.

I kinda thought that everybody was out to lunch calling Chima ugly- but I'd just never seen her close up. If you recall the 3rd LOTR movie- where they had the "Mouth of Sauron" guy where they did an effect and made his mouth 50% larger relative to the rest of his face, I think she requested that that be done to her lips. WTF.

+1 you don't need to watch the show to be able to answer those questions

Props to Ronnie for organically recreating the ****storm that Eric got forced into with America's Player.

****ing ronnie, spineless douche was mad because with his HOH gifts they gave him legally blonde 'the soundtrack' and not what he asked for. Legally blonde 'the musical'.

I've never hated anyone on tv this much.

I swear I have never been so pissed about something that has absolutely zero effect on my life. I should have never started watching this ****. Not enough bad things can happen to Ronnie, Natalie, Chima, Lydia, etc. to satisfy my lust for their demise. Ronnie, you pear shaped, play doh playing, Legally Blonde fapping, social misfit, may the fleas of a million cats fester on your balls.

Ronnie is way too obsessed with being a "player", he is going to do the thing people expect the least, whether or not it is good for him or not. Just because people dont know what the **** youre doing doesnt make you a good player.

Agreed. I'm sure Ronnie is used to having Zero power in any social situation in real life, so this is a whole new world for him. He is going to go nuts with any power he has.

No, she said "a vote for Braden is a vote for a bigot. Anyone who aligns themselves with a racist and a misogynist deserves to go home." Way to pay attention!

A couple posters already revealed Braden's use of "beaner" but here's the report from RealityBlurred (which is usually just a news-reporting reality TV blog but here becomes extremely editorial) about how the editing of the show completely ignored Braden's behavior:


Damn!


I think the editors are creating that in your mind. I'm sure she's speaking plenty in the house; it's just what we get to see in the 44 minutes CBS broadcasts footage.

I agree Lydia came off as psycho last night, but that RealityBlurred report I posted above makes me cut her some slack since it's clear the editing chose to vilify her and make Braden seem like a victim (which they also did for Jeff).

Casey is an offbeat.

A shotgun? Maybe we can get you some technotronics.

Exactly.

I don't want to like Russell but I do. He set up Branden so well.

This group is developing into another "nerd herd". For those who don't know what I mean that is a group from season 6 that no one in America could stand but they just thought that people in America loved them. When they got out of the house, they faced some serious backlash.

From the polls on some of these reality websites, America hates this group. I would love to know what Ronnie's wife is thinking. She must be horrified that he is aligning with this group.

By the way, if anyone wants to sit through 15 minutes of extremely awkward, uncomfortable, squirm-inducing idiocy, check out Julie's interview with Braden. The last 5 minutes or so are totally awesome, but the whole thing is worth watching if you're interested in what types of people they cast on this show and what they think about the house.

after reading the copy/paste from Private Joker I don't feel so bad about Braden leaving. Busting out racist comments has no place in a place like Big Brother. The whole "bigot" speech threw me off, I was thinking, "Does Chima know what that term means?"

That interview is great, especially if you keep in mind that he called Julie Chen a ho while he was in the house around 4:50 - 6 mins.

Whats the deal with the live feeds? is it just me or is it just a bunch of stupid questions?

Way to not realize by quoting her you just proved me right by telling me I'm wrong... you DO realize bigot and racist are synonyms right? What is she implying there if not that anyone who votes for a racist is also one?????

way to pay attention!

They're probably having the nomination ceremony or the food comp.

What are you talking about? She called Braden a racist/bigot. How is that calling people who vote for him the same thing? She is criticizing people who align with him by saying they deserve to go home. I don't blame her. She never called those who align with him bigots/racists, she called Braden a bigot/racist. She said anyone who aligns with him should go home. I'm repeating this because either you're not reading any posts, or you're not listening to what you watch on TV, or you're just high.

PJ


Follow the transitive law here. she is saying that Braden is a racist, then she says anyone who votes for Braden should go home.... Is she saying this for ANY other reason than to imply that people who vote him and are aligned him are also racists????? No she isn't. There is no other logical explanation for her saying this other to call people who vote for Braden racist by association. Why do you think Julie Chen got so uncomfortable after her speech? It came so out of left field since it wasn't referred to in the CBS broadcast at all.

PLEASE tell me what she is saying here if not that.

Understand that my original comment was not about whether or Braden is a racist. I am only going on what is broadcast on CBS and what i read ITT. So I haven't seen the incident she was referring to yet. My comment was about what a horrible strategy it is to call what you know will be roughly half the house racists just for voting for your opponent.