The whole thing is, chef never once said OP wasn't in the wrong. Just that the other guy is a dick too.

The thing is the whole thing started because of OP's behavior! In other words, if the other guy is a dick, OP caused it!

Lol at the people who think OP is not doing anything wrong.

Which is in no way contrary to what Chef is saying. He didn't, and now I don't, see why anyone is arguing that.

And who are those people?

I'm not going to look back through and find the ones defending the guy.

But there are some...

Lol this. You pulled over and got high in a neighborhood where there may be young children running around. I'm assuming you weren't going to do any harm, but you're an idiot if you think this guy is the crazy weirdo and you're the totally innocent person whose day got ruined.

Well, that went over your head.

The resident WASN'T a dick.

The OP was committing a crime so the reaction (filming) was appropriate.

The OP drove slowly, parked in front of the resident's house, had words with the resident, and started to get out of the car BEFORE the resident got the mini-bat.

Again, the resident wasn't a dick.

Well, I went back and read the posts. Any that showed "support" for the OP were sarcasm.

Man, if I heard the chef died, it would honestly bring me a little joy, thinking of how life had become just a little better for all the people who read threads where he takes a "position."

Bighurt, thanks for that.

It seems to be lost on some that I'm not defending OP. I've plainly stated it and even repeated a couple of times. Not sure where I could have gone from there!

One last go, because it pains me that so many would see this idiot's actions as perfectly fine:

Obviously OP sets off the chain of events because of his stupidity. That doesn't imply that OP is the aggressor in the confrontation and it doesn't give the resident a free pass on any actions that follow (I'm looking at you, Doc T River). The aspect of OP's behaviour that I dislike the most is that he's operating a motor vehicle under the influence of drugs. I don't have a strong opinion because I don't have first hand experience and I am not well read around the subject. But my gut tells me I don't like this. Beyond that, he might look shady/suspicious, but in parking his car at the roadside he's not actually doing any harm. This thread is evidence that the driver of OP's actions were stupidity and naivety.

On the other hand, the resident was clearly 100% gunning for conflict from the get go. If he wanted to hide from view while he filmed OP, I'm sure he would have known how to do that from his own residence. He didn't do that though. Instead, he filmed him in a blatant way which was always likely to antagonise. We can tell this is the case when the resident unflinchingly keeps the camera trained on OP even after it's clear that OP knows what he is doing.

I can understand arguments for either of the protagonists being worse than the other but I'm really struggling to understand those who can't find any fault with the resident. He seems like that special sort of moron for whom an incident like this is probably the highlight of his week. I slot this sort of insufferable ****s somewhere near the top of my douchebag ranking list. That's a matter of personal taste I suppose but to say he isn't a douchebag at all? GTFO

Why don't you say something substantial instead of sniping from the sidelines?

Alright I was a little bit hazy when I wrote the Op. I admit I was wrong to not just drive away and also wait to get home to smoke. I never intended on "coming at the guy".....

I just opened the guy and had a foot on the ground, I was just really agitated bu the way the guy wanted to make it obvious he was filming me. I never said anything that would make him feel threatened. All I did was pull over and open my door and he flipped out and ran for a weapon. I was just being an idiot and pushing it but I think the other guy was being a douche and wanted to knock him off his dbag throne by showing him one day he might be doin the same thing and get a macho crazy person who would actually resort to violence.

About 7 years ago I was in a shared house where one the roomies I had jever really talked to much had a friend who showed up and parked in my driveway. I didn't recognize him so I was looking at in out my window and I guess I looked to long and he came into the house barged into
My room and threatened to kill me and rape my gf if I ever "eye balled" him again. My gf at the time actually managed to record it all on her iPhone and showed to the police who basically said they would do nothing about it.

Just saying one day he will do his filmin thing with the one in a thousand guy who will actually lose it and beat the crap out of him

Your post is idiotic.

You ignore an obvious reason as to why the filming was done in public. It was done so OP knew he was not welcome.

You ignore that OP drove slowly down the street.

You ignore that OP turned around.

You ignore that OP parked directly in front of the house.

You ignore that OP had words with the resident.

You ignore that OP made a move indicating he was coming after the guy.

All BEFORE the guy got the item.

You ignore that the guy indicated he was calling the cops so the mini-bat was present for self defense.

None of what the resident did was out of line.

lol...a bit harsh Minimalist.

Anyways, i don't really think the resident is in the wrong at all.

Like someone said before, this guy could've had druggies park out front before and now he's sick of it.

This actually happened to my gf when we were swapping cars. She parked out front of our neighbours house, while i parked in our garage. The neighbor who i know, (and is a nice guy) ran out front and spoke to her wondering what she was doing out the front. Then he recognized her and apologized. He has druggies next door to him so i totally understand where he was coming from.

I trust he will never be a missionary.

And you live next to him?

I'm not ignorant of that possibility. I just don't think that was his motivation considering his other actions and considering that there are more effective and more obvious methods to achieve that end. I think it's meant to be antagonistic (it worked)

The horror! Don't think this is a particularly big deal but it comes AFTER the resident antagonises.

Getting a little more confrontational but this is a reaction. He's not the instigator.

After the resident had held a camera on him for several minutes.

You mean he got out of his car?

But some of it AFTER the resident had verbally threatened him.


GTFO. That resident is a weirdo douche.

This is what you're hanging your hat on? Because there is 100% nothing wrong with what the home owner is doing here. It's very odd that in your world it's better to hide than be in the open.

I'll let all of you keep arguing but a couple things, I never actually got out of the car, I opened my door, m seatbelt never came off. I didn't turn around like the above poster said. The camera on me didn't bother e until whe I was driving away the camera followed me, that's when I pulled up to the opposite curb and just sat looking at him for almost a minute to make him as uncomfortable as he was making me feel.

I asked is there a problem and he said mind your own business which made me a little more agitated

You better go back and reread your first post. You said that the guy with the camera was one house behind you. If the house was behind you, how did you end up across from his house? You either turned around or backed up. I went with your turning around.

You also said that you were starting to get out of the car.

Threatened him? By saying the OP should get out of there or else?

Given the man called the police, it is a safe bet the or else was calling the cops.

And in your world that is a threat?

It's ambiguous but could certainly be seen that way. Phone in one hand, weapon in the other leaves it ambiguous.

I don't see why you view exiting a car as definitely threatening but don't entertain the idea that "get of here or else" could be seen as threatening. You have a strange way of viewing things.