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06-26-2015 , 03:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Minirra
I can feel my brain rewiring itself as it tries to process this
Don't understand sarcasm

"Where I live a starter home is about 450k and you should be looking to spend 550k for a solid place. I could move back home and get a much bigger place for 300k but I choose to live here, stop crying about the choices you make."

Where was I whining? It was my friend and he never whined about it, just a reality which isn't hard to accept, it's a desirable place to live
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06-26-2015 , 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Alobar
The irony here is hilarious
JHFC, Alobar. How many times do I have to tell you? That isn't irony. It's hypocrisy.
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06-26-2015 , 10:12 AM
About a month ago, Mrs. T and I were driving down our street. There was a car parked on the street directly in front of our property and about a car length away from our driveway. Some guy was sitting in the driver's seat looking at what was probably his phone. As we were about to turn into our driveway, Mrs. T said: "What's that guy doing there? You should go see." Me: "He's apparently sitting in the street, looking at his phone. I'll memorize his license plate, but other than that, I'm not going to do anything. Seems to me the guy can park on a public street. Well, perhaps we should let the dog out onto the lawn." Mrs. T: "Okay."

I memorized the plate, let our german shepherd out on to our lawn, and went about my business. Our house is well set back from the street and the view of the street is blocked by about thirty feet of dense azaleas. The lawn runs from the house to the edge of the azaleas and there's an electric dog fence at that border. To get to the house, someone would have to walk in the driveway, and the dog will bark 100% of the time if someone does.

Seems to me that the angry man was overreacting to OP. At the same time, it's a slightly intrusive feeling to watch some stranger park in front of your home. This is at root a mildly tense situation; my approach to this from either OP's perspective or the angry man's is to be very polite and non-confrontational in my dialog. The angry man coming out of his house with a bat/minibat/stick/wooden spoon is ridiculous and overly aggressive IMO.
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06-26-2015 , 10:12 AM
lol
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06-26-2015 , 10:13 AM
haha
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06-26-2015 , 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by markdirt
It absolutely horrifies me on a deep existential level that our argument has come down to "there is a difference between a bat and a mini-bat". I mean ****, I can't really disagree with you on that one.
The reason I addressed that one point was, as I said, because I was on my Nook. It was the last paragraph of what you posted and so it was easiest to see it and address it. Had I been on a better computer, I would have addressed everything.

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Originally Posted by Howard Treesong
About a month ago, Mrs. T and I were driving down our street. There was a car parked on the street directly in front of our property and about a car length away from our driveway. Some guy was sitting in the driver's seat looking at what was probably his phone. As we were about to turn into our driveway, Mrs. T said: "What's that guy doing there? You should go see." Me: "He's apparently sitting in the street, looking at his phone. I'll memorize his license plate, but other than that, I'm not going to do anything. Seems to me the guy can park on a public street. Well, perhaps we should let the dog out onto the lawn." Mrs. T: "Okay."

I memorized the plate, let our german shepherd out on to our lawn, and went about my business. Our house is well set back from the street and the view of the street is blocked by about thirty feet of dense azaleas. The lawn runs from the house to the edge of the azaleas and there's an electric dog fence at that border. To get to the house, someone would have to walk in the driveway, and the dog will bark 100% of the time if someone does.

Seems to me that the angry man was overreacting to OP. At the same time, it's a slightly intrusive feeling to watch some stranger park in front of your home. This is at root a mildly tense situation; my approach to this from either OP's perspective or the angry man's is to be very polite and non-confrontational in my dialog. The angry man coming out of his house with a bat/minibat/stick/wooden spoon is ridiculous and overly aggressive IMO.
I would agree with you if the "angry man" hadn't gotten the object AFTER the start of the verbal interaction with OP.
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06-26-2015 , 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Howard Treesong
my approach to this
Even if he's ducking down and obviously puffing on weed?
And you have had people daily doing drugs in the area.
And your property values are going down because of the drug use.
You just gonna go about your business and let them do their thing?

And someone smoking weed and driving up to your curb with "you got a problem"
and starting to get out of the car isn't reason enough to call the cops and grab some protection?
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06-26-2015 , 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by steamraise
Even if he's ducking down and obviously puffing on weed?
Yep. I don't give a rip about smoking weed.

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And you have had people daily doing drugs in the area.
Don't think this was part of the OP.

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And your property values are going down because of the drug use.
You just gonna go about your business and let them do their thing?
That point just seems faintly ridiculous to me. If I had my house on the market and this was a repeat event, I might go up to the car and say, "You know what? I have my house on the market. Would you do me the courtesy of moving a block over next time you want to light up?" I'd definitely be very polite about it. The OP has a perfect right to sit in his car on a public street. So too does the angry man have the right to film OP, but that rachets up tension without adding a whole lot of benefit. Taking the car's plate accomplishes much the same without being an aggro douche about it.

I guess I don't live my life in fear of some guy smoking a doob in his car on the street.

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And someone smoking weed and driving up to your curb with "you got a problem" and starting to get out of the car isn't reason enough to call the cops and grab some protection?
After I've started filming the guy? There are plenty of ways to handle this without sparking a confrontation.

I mean, I guess I could have gone into my house and gotten my glock, leashed both of our large (70 and 100 lb) and often intimidating dogs on a leash, then gone out to the car and said to the driver "What the **** are you doing here, *******?" But that approach really doesn't strike me as being the right way to go.
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06-26-2015 , 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Howard Treesong
Yep. I don't give a rip about smoking weed.
I don't either.
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Originally Posted by steamraise
I've been smokin weed for at least ten years before you were born.
I toke in public, in my car, in the bathroom stall in casinos and restaurants.
But if I see someone has noticed what I'm doing it's time to discreetly move along.
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Originally Posted by Howard Treesong
Don't think this was part of the OP.
He added this later.
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Originally Posted by Shimsham85
He should be used to seeing people smoking weed, within 2 blocks of where I was there is
2 medical dispensaries and a medical marijuana grow building with a huge green leaf on it. .
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06-26-2015 , 02:59 PM
Fair enough, although the fact that three pot shops are nearby doesn't mean other cars have parked on angry man's street toking out.

Don't get me wrong: I wouldn't be wildly enthusiastic about rando cars filled with pot smoke on my street. But for a one-off event, I wouldn't get all that hostile about it, either.

Final take: Angry man is a jackass, but OP probably could have done more to keep the situation calm; if I were smoking pot in a parked car, I might well move it down the street if some dickhead started filming me.
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06-26-2015 , 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Howard Treesong
But for a one-off event,
If this is the first time, then yes angry man is being a bit of a dick.

OP saying, he should be used to it, sounds like maybe old man has a reason to be angry.
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06-26-2015 , 10:14 PM
I guess I don't fault the man for being a little worried about a guy acting suspicious like I was. It was a first time thing for the guy who was wondering.

It just seems like the guy kind of was trying to start a possible physical confrontation since he was kind of egging me on a little by blatantly following me with the camera as I was about to leave. I was 20 or 30 feet from him so I couldn't tell what he had, could of been a wooden spoon but for sure not a full size bat.

This city, victoria BC has jus always been a weed tolerant (by most people, most cops included). On 4/20 there is a public weed smoke out at city hall which everyone knows about and they don't get hassled by cops at all. That's what I meant by he should be kinda used to it.
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06-27-2015 , 01:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Howard Treesong

Final take: Angry man is a jackass, but OP probably could have done more to keep the situation calm; if I were smoking pot in a parked car, I might well move it down the street if some dickhead started filming me.
because you don't want to live out the OP's fantasy of being exactly like some maniac that threatened to beat his ass for eyeballing him that one time
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06-27-2015 , 02:41 AM
OP is coming across like the stereotypical clueless stoner.
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06-27-2015 , 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Shimsham85
I guess I don't fault the man for being a little worried about a guy acting suspicious like I was. It was a first time thing for the guy who was wondering.

It just seems like the guy kind of was trying to start a possible physical confrontation since he was kind of egging me on a little by blatantly following me with the camera as I was about to leave. I was 20 or 30 feet from him so I couldn't tell what he had, could of been a wooden spoon but for sure not a full size bat.

This city, victoria BC has jus always been a weed tolerant (by most people, most cops included). On 4/20 there is a public weed smoke out at city hall which everyone knows about and they don't get hassled by cops at all. That's what I meant by he should be kinda used to it.
Again, just because someone should be used to it doesn't mean they have to like it.

Finally, the guy wasn't wondering if it was your first time stopping. He was wondering if it was the first time the man had someone stop.

Last edited by Doc T River; 06-27-2015 at 09:04 AM. Reason: is an always calm person the best judge of someone else's level of anger?
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06-27-2015 , 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Dominic
OP is coming across like the stereotypical clueless stoner.
I think op has tried to have a pretty good discussion. But of course moralists like you are attracted to these discussions to berate alternate lifestyle choices.
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06-27-2015 , 04:41 PM
Dominic - Porn director moralist.
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06-27-2015 , 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Didace
Dominic - Porn director moralist.
Isn't that former Porn director moralist?
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06-27-2015 , 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Didace
Dominic - Porn director moralist.
This is on my business card
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