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01-21-2013 , 05:43 PM
used to play 5nl graduated to 10nl but after a few shots dropped back to 5nl and stuck.

I don't get it. I've taken loads of advice from this thread and the micro nl-pl forums and applying it to my game but still losing at 5nl. anyone at ssnl used to experience this?
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01-21-2013 , 05:53 PM
when i started playing cash (at 25nl) i basically watched a load of vids from DC (mainly from baluga because i thought he was the best at teaching stuff) posted hands in uNL
had a heater at 25nl, moved upto 50nl. stupidly tried to 9 table it straight away, moved back down, then recovered losses at 25nl, moved back up and stayed.
got talking to better players about hh and stuff
then got fortunate enough to get staked and not looked back since
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01-21-2013 , 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by PlasticElephant
Also I made a 30 min 25nl rush video with commentary but something ****ed up at the end when I tried to save it. Soso gay because I won 5 BI's and a 250bb pot with Ahi
Will try and make another one to post in here another day though, realised it is really hard to articulate my thought processes in game though so it's probably not the best anyway, makes me admire people who make decent videos way more.
When you do, please just play as you see optimal for 25NL.

So often I see people request 'to get into a lot of spots' which makes the video maker 3bet ******ed hands or raise dumb hands and too loosely, ending up situations we micro-noobs should'nt find ourselves in to begin with

peace
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01-21-2013 , 05:58 PM
It's called invisible leaks..cant fix what u cant c..
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01-21-2013 , 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Arkaine

So often I see people request 'to get into a lot of spots' which makes the video maker 3bet ******ed hands or raise dumb hands and too loosely, ending up situations we micro-noobs should'nt find ourselves in to begin with
yeh i thought this is incredibly ******ed when video makers do this. Dont understand why, usually they dont even have enough time to explain the actual spot they got themselves.
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01-21-2013 , 06:18 PM
lol villain prob calculated his hero call equity, ty Q6 for creating that concept.

Poker Stars $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2073353
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BTN: $56.14
SB: $203.00
BB: $103.00
UTG: $200.00
Hero (MP): $679.63
CO: $257.46

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is MP with A A
1 fold, Hero raises to $6, CO raises to $16, 3 folds, Hero raises to $33, CO raises to $50, Hero calls $17

Flop: ($103.00) 9 8 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: ($103.00) K (2 players)
Hero bets $48, CO calls $48

River: ($199.00) 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $581.63 all in, CO calls $159.46 all in

Final Pot: $517.92
Hero shows A A (a pair of Aces)
CO shows 8 J (a pair of Eights)
Hero wins $515.12
(Rake: $2.80)
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01-21-2013 , 06:33 PM
Can a few people here tell me how much rake you pay at 50NL Zoom in bb/100 (for 2013, I don't know if it changed) and what your sample size is.

I'm asking for a friend. I know it depends on how you play, but if a few people could answer that'd be great
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01-21-2013 , 06:35 PM
alright thanks guys. I'll drop back to 2nl with 60BI and try and beat it, before I move back up to 5nl again. gonna spam the micro nl forum with loads of hands.
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01-21-2013 , 06:42 PM
Dill, I'm never on skype but if u wanna pm me hh's or questions that's fine. If u wanna pm me I'll give u my email address aswell as I'm never too far away from that, and if i can help i will

If u can afford it, get a DC sub. I've been watching vids for a month now and it really does open ur mind

Edit: same goes for anyone if they want. I'm no genius but will help where i can
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01-21-2013 , 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Dunna100
Dill, I'm never on skype but if u wanna pm me hh's or questions that's fine. If u wanna pm me I'll give u my email address aswell as I'm never too far away from that, and if i can help i will

If u can afford it, get a DC sub. I've been watching vids for a month now and it really does open ur mind

Edit: same goes for anyone if they want. I'm no genius but will help where i can
thanks Dunna, prob fine for now. Sure I'll try and get some DC vids (or CR, whichever is better) after exams and stuff

yay 1000th post
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01-21-2013 , 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Arkaine
When you do, please just play as you see optimal for 25NL.

So often I see people request 'to get into a lot of spots' which makes the video maker 3bet ******ed hands or raise dumb hands and too loosely, ending up situations we micro-noobs should'nt find ourselves in to begin with

peace
Ha at the start of the video I literally said 'I'm going to play as if I was a meh 25nl reg, EG i'm not going to open wider bvb because I think I can outplay them postflop etc'
So annoyed it f'ed up though, it is effort to make another one.
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01-21-2013 , 07:19 PM
dill, pm me your skype name and I'll try aand get some time with you mate. Its probably something daft/easy fixed.
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01-21-2013 , 07:19 PM
Q6 what cam sofware did you use? Camstudio is the best (I htink)
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01-21-2013 , 07:28 PM
Yeah I used camstudio/
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01-21-2013 , 07:52 PM
All about camtasia.
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01-21-2013 , 07:56 PM
Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BTN: $10.51
SB: $10.25
BB: $9.35
UTG: $5.52
MP: $10.00
Hero (CO): $10.27

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is CO with J T
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, 2 folds, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.65) J T 9 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.40, BB calls $0.40

Turn: ($1.45) A (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1, BB raises to $2, Hero calls $1

River: ($5.45) 9 (2 players)
BB bets $4.10, Hero folds

Final Pot: $5.45
BB wins $5.20
(Rake: $0.25)

really not sure about the turn as villains range will usually not include FD as they probably just call

He'd probably raise 2pair+ on the flop

Maybe Ax FD but then again not sure

Probably hit an A like AQ or AK

AJ and AT is a bit more unlikely as I have JT

I considered shipping the turn but what worse will call if I 3b turn hmmm
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01-21-2013 , 08:30 PM
played fine
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01-21-2013 , 09:04 PM
Some hands from my last sesh.

Hand 1: Russian fish. Surprised at what he turned up with.

    Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #15625041

    BTN: $9.11 (182.2 bb)
    SB: $4.25 (85 bb)
    BB: $3.36 (67.2 bb)
    UTG: $1.15 (23 bb)
    MP: $3.12 (62.4 bb)
    Hero (CO): $11.93 (238.6 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with Q Q
    UTG folds, MP calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.25, 3 folds, MP calls $0.20

    Flop: ($0.57) 7 6 8 (2 players)
    MP bets $2.87 and is all-in, Hero calls $2.87

    Turn: ($6.31) T (2 players, 1 is all-in)
    River: ($6.31) K (2 players, 1 is all-in)

    Spoiler:
    Results: $6.31 pot ($0.26 rake)
    Final Board: 7 6 8 T K
    MP showed 8 3 and lost (-$3.12 net)
    Hero showed Q Q and won $6.05 ($2.93 net)



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    Just obvious when he is short stacked, x/c twice pre, he isnt any good so will make stupid moves hence call the flop shove.


    Hand 2: Another, different russian fish.

      Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #15625051

      Hero (BTN): $6.28 (125.6 bb)
      SB: $5.56 (111.2 bb)
      BB: $5 (100 bb)
      UTG: $4.63 (92.6 bb)
      MP: $9.73 (194.6 bb)
      CO: $5.14 (102.8 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BTN with Q Q
      3 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, SB raises to $0.25, BB calls $0.20, Hero raises to $0.85, SB raises to $5.56 and is all-in, BB folds, Hero calls $4.71

      Flop: ($11.37) 8 J J (2 players, 1 is all-in)
      Turn: ($11.37) J (2 players, 1 is all-in)
      River: ($11.37) 8 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

      Spoiler:
      Results: $11.37 pot ($0.47 rake)
      Final Board: 8 J J J 8
      Hero showed Q Q and won $10.90 ($5.34 net)
      SB showed 4 5 and lost (-$5.56 net)



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      From one extreme to the other, min 3bets me then shoves - clearly hasnt got a hand = call.

      hand 3. Poor guy must have been creaming himself when the turn hit.

        Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #15625061

        Hero (BTN): $12.75 (255 bb)
        SB: $5.02 (100.4 bb)
        BB: $17.53 (350.6 bb)
        UTG: $7.08 (141.6 bb)
        MP: $3.76 (75.2 bb)
        CO: $5 (100 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is BTN with A A
        UTG raises to $0.17, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.55, 2 folds, UTG raises to $1.30, Hero raises to $3, UTG raises to $7.08 and is all-in, Hero calls $4.08

        Flop: ($14.23) A 5 K (2 players, 1 is all-in)
        Turn: ($14.23) K (2 players, 1 is all-in)
        River: ($14.23) 4 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

        Spoiler:
        Results: $14.23 pot ($0.59 rake)
        Final Board: A 5 K K 4
        Hero showed A A and won $13.64 ($6.56 net)
        UTG showed K A and lost (-$7.08 net)



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        hand 4: too nitty or just obvious he holds a J?

          Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
          Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #15625071

          Hero (BTN): $6.93 (138.6 bb)
          SB: $10.02 (200.4 bb)
          BB: $8.13 (162.6 bb)
          UTG: $10.30 (206 bb)
          MP: $6.96 (139.2 bb)
          CO: $4.88 (97.6 bb)

          Preflop: Hero is BTN with 7 6
          2 folds, CO calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.20, 2 folds, CO calls $0.15

          Flop: ($0.47) 8 T 9 (2 players)
          CO checks, Hero bets $0.35, CO calls $0.35

          Turn: ($1.17) Q (2 players)
          CO checks, Hero bets $0.67, CO raises to $4.33 and is all-in, Hero folds

          Spoiler:
          Results: $2.51 pot ($0.10 rake)
          Final Board: 8 T 9 Q
          Hero mucked 7 6 and lost (-$1.22 net)
          CO mucked and won $2.41 ($1.19 net)



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          I find that mostly, when people shove for 2 or more x pot, with 4 str or flush ont he board, its OK to fold.

          Pretty decent sesh. Was down 5 BI at one point, clawed it all back. Glad that despite taking a lot of beats earlier on fh over fh set over set etc, I didnt lose my head, just carried on grinding away steadily and the rewards came.
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          01-21-2013 , 09:20 PM
          does hem1 work with rush?
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          01-21-2013 , 09:29 PM
          ^


          yes
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          01-21-2013 , 10:19 PM
          do i need to configure anything to get it to work like i had to do for zoom?
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          01-22-2013 , 12:04 AM
          Quote:
          Originally Posted by 50nlRushandBeyond
          Rather keep it a secret but just think about who the best reg you have played against at 100nl/200nl zoom, that is me.
          Best reg i've played with is WizardofOdds.

          Spoiler:
          well thats not true but that is his screen name.


          J_nufc_v x
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          01-22-2013 , 02:31 AM
          Quote:
          Originally Posted by HU4hoes
          do i need to configure anything to get it to work like i had to do for zoom?
          I think just getting the 12.10 version will suffice

          but you can't use one version for rush and zoom afaik

          also they have a thread about rush poker @ hem forums so you might want to check there for your problems if you encounter any

          Last edited by Frostyice; 01-22-2013 at 02:38 AM.
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          01-22-2013 , 03:08 AM
          Some pretty sick hands last session;



            Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
            Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #15635491

            BTN: $3.66 (183 bb)
            Hero (SB): $3.76 (188 bb)
            BB: $2.06 (103 bb)
            UTG: $5.16 (258 bb)
            MP: $1.46 (73 bb)
            CO: $1.61 (80.5 bb)

            Preflop: Hero is SB with 9 9
            2 folds, CO raises to $0.06, BTN folds, Hero calls $0.05, BB folds

            Flop: ($0.14) 7 5 9 (2 players)
            Hero checks, CO bets $0.06, Hero calls $0.06

            Turn: ($0.26) 2 (2 players)
            Hero checks, CO bets $0.24, Hero raises to $0.77, CO raises to $1.49, Hero calls $0.72

            River: ($3.24) T (2 players)

            Spoiler:
            Results: $3.24 pot ($0.11 rake)
            Final Board: 7 5 9 2 T
            Hero showed 9 9 and won $3.13 ($1.52 net)
            CO showed 2 2 and lost (-$1.61 net)



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              Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
              Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #15635501

              BTN: $2 (100 bb)
              SB: $1.95 (97.5 bb)
              BB: $0.87 (43.5 bb)
              Hero (UTG): $6.51 (325.5 bb)
              MP: $2.05 (102.5 bb)
              CO: $1.76 (88 bb)

              Preflop: Hero is UTG with J J
              Hero raises to $0.06, 2 folds, BTN raises to $0.18, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.12

              Flop: ($0.39) 9 6 4 (2 players)
              Hero checks, BTN checks

              Turn: ($0.39) Q (2 players)
              Hero bets $0.30, BTN calls $0.30

              River: ($0.99) J (2 players)
              Hero bets $1.02, BTN calls $1.02

              Spoiler:
              Results: $3.03 pot ($0.11 rake)
              Final Board: 9 6 4 Q J
              BTN mucked K K and lost (-$1.50 net)
              Hero showed J J and won $2.92 ($1.42 net)



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              Any thoughts to maximize value on the 2nd hand? I figured if I overbet it could look pretty bluffy, inducing a call.
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              01-22-2013 , 03:28 AM
              You guessed it st8 flush #4 this year.

                Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
                Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

                BTN: $10 (100 bb)
                SB: $10 (100 bb)
                Hero (BB): $15.06 (150.6 bb)
                UTG: $5.24 (52.4 bb)
                MP: $10.72 (107.2 bb)
                CO: $4.47 (44.7 bb)

                Preflop: Hero is BB with J T
                3 folds, BTN raises to $0.30, SB folds, Hero calls $0.20

                Flop: ($0.65) 9 Q 7 (2 players)
                Hero checks, BTN bets $0.30, Hero raises to $1.20, BTN calls $0.90

                Turn: ($3.05) 8 (2 players)
                Hero bets $1.90, BTN calls $1.90

                River: ($6.85) J (2 players)
                Hero bets $4.30, BTN folds

                Spoiler:
                Results: $6.85 pot ($0.31 rake)
                Final Board: 9 Q 7 8 J
                BTN mucked and lost (-$3.40 net)
                Hero mucked J T and won $6.54 ($3.14 net)
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